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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 28 2010 01:16 GMT
#41
JD Oz will have to be renamed to PerfectJDOz.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
October 28 2010 01:24 GMT
#42
STX Zergs have really lost their luster.
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
October 28 2010 01:27 GMT
#43
Look at all that red on Star's pie chart, lol.
Altern
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1053 Posts
October 28 2010 01:30 GMT
#44
Nice, this is very cool, look forward to more statistics as we go further down the season
KimchiFriedRice
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada237 Posts
October 28 2010 01:35 GMT
#45
Awesome writeup!
I love the piechart and percentage of wins to see whose winning how much and stuff
I will shove Kimchi up your ass and watch you writhe in pain.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
October 28 2010 01:42 GMT
#46
HwasuengOZ has this to say to you: + Show Spoiler +
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nice graphs, surprised that Bisu is +5 and that ggaemo is best player on ACE now
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
October 28 2010 01:46 GMT
#47
nice job. cool how woongjin's top players are all zergs.. xD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
DejaVu119
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States131 Posts
October 28 2010 01:55 GMT
#48
hey thats a really cool statistic. you should keep it updated throughout the year so the numbers become more significant. later on, you may have to remove some players to keep it realistic (i.e. players with only 1 or 2 games played after round 5 shouldn't be counted).

in regards to some of the other posts, the formula doesn't say which team is BETTER, just which team is more BALANCED in getting wins throughout the roster. There really is no perfect statistic, even W-L (Perfectman is NOT a better player than Light or Fantasy). But used in conjunction with other statistics, such as number of appearances, ace match records, opponents records, etc., this statistic adds to the discussion.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
October 28 2010 02:18 GMT
#49
This is not a very good data since there hasn't been many games played yet. I'm betting few teams will rise quickly and few will fall after couple more games.
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Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
October 28 2010 02:34 GMT
#50
Great graphs. Will be interesting to see how these change as the season progresses
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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
October 28 2010 03:01 GMT
#51
Great work, thank you Keep up the good work bro.
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
October 28 2010 03:05 GMT
#52
Interesting, and this also made me realize some funny things. (calm -2, turn +3, ) and others lol

You should talk to the people who do the proleague reports because they do stats sometimes and it seems like you could help, they are very interesting.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 28 2010 03:11 GMT
#53
woooo woongjin stars!

This is a really cool concept/view and seems pretty accurate. Thanks for the time + effort put in

Great first topic as well ^^
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
October 28 2010 03:49 GMT
#54
Renamed to avoid confusion. 2 "Rounds" of PL play would be 10 weeks.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 28 2010 04:20 GMT
#55
Balance =/= good team

For example, Hite is sitting pretty much BELOW Ace rofl.
Writerptrk
Neoattitude
Profile Joined April 2010
Guam172 Posts
October 28 2010 04:53 GMT
#56
was interesting to see that Oz is last and ACE is 7th.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 05:00:18
October 28 2010 04:59 GMT
#57
I want an Oz graph at the end of proleague just for the lolz, yes, including the double winner league data.

As far as ABSOLUTE balance goes, I think the award goes to ACE or STX lol, no exception player, overall the same level of skill.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 28 2010 05:25 GMT
#58
wow very nice. while the whole thing may not be entirely accurate, it does seem to follow the general trend
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
October 28 2010 06:26 GMT
#59
This is really sick. I think you should do it at the end/in the middle of each round, with the one at the end being a complete one for the whole season (compiling rounds), and with the in the middle being for that round only. It's a lot of work but that seems like the most rewarding to me. Also, I feel like though team balance is really important, neglecting ace is foolish. SKT beat KT and another team in ace with 2 different players - this adds a new concept of depth. I think that there should be some sort of measure for ace victories. Thanks for this!
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
October 28 2010 06:29 GMT
#60
On October 27 2010 19:00 Ryo wrote:
Cool topic, although I didn't need a formula to know which team is the most imbalanced. lol
Currently team balance does not directly correspond to the team's overall performance but will that change as the season progresses?

To elaborate on this, it'd be nice to have a separate statistic for how accurately your chart predicts wins, and how it is is relevant to current standings... I think that'd be the best qualifier for you work (:
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