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ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
October 13 2010 03:47 GMT
#341
Please Brood War, if you can just hold on a tiny bit longer, just stay strong during these times of turmoil and we might be able to stay alive together, alongside SC2.

But does this remind anyone else of the BW Gom Starleague that Kespa completely shut down simply out of spite? Kinda feel like Gretech is getting it's own back because of it. I just wish Kespa had done things differently in the past. But damnit, I want my Brood War back If it fails it will be a huge example to the world that an E-Sport can only last so long before becoming obsolete.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:13:30
October 13 2010 03:49 GMT
#342
More good news, this 2010-2011 Proleague season's sponsor is Shinhan Bank (again)!

[image loading]

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=33248
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111108&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

They're having a media day on the 14th of Oct to mark the start of proleague on 16th Oct.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
October 13 2010 03:52 GMT
#343
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 13 2010 03:53 GMT
#344
wow some big changes gonna happen.
Blizzard fucking shits up as usual (maybe for the better? I don't know at all)
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 13 2010 04:02 GMT
#345
I wish GOM would just go die. Yeah you guys got the rough end of the deal a couple years ago, but it doesn't mean you can come back now and become Blizzard's pet and fuck up the entire SCBW e-sports scene in Korea. Fuck you GOM.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 13 2010 04:02 GMT
#346
On October 13 2010 12:39 metaldragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 12:14 Ryo wrote:
Good news, 2hrs ago, MBCGame tweeted this:

[image loading]

Proleague is likely to start. =)



Am i the only one that cant read Korean and has no idea what this says!?

"it seems proleague will start soon."
POGGERS
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
October 13 2010 04:03 GMT
#347
Sweetness. Now can we all love each other again?

And presumably the fact that MBC posted it means they WILL be running proleague after all?

Hopefully the negotiations have finally reached their conclusion and the two scenes can get on with their life again...
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 13 2010 04:03 GMT
#348
How the fuck did all this happen?2 hours ago there was on chance of shit happening and suddenly Gretech and MBC are friends?Publicity stunt or What?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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ISighZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States270 Posts
October 13 2010 04:08 GMT
#349
Omg So it's all good!?!?!? IS the worse over yet!?
Don't mess with me.. I can't handle too much of this ups and downs...
There is no one to help you unless you help yourself
Philar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong125 Posts
October 13 2010 04:10 GMT
#350
I sense there will be HUGE drama on the 16th
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:13:23
October 13 2010 04:12 GMT
#351
this could also mean that there will be another MSL or?

y... big drama on the 16th. people might die ! ^^
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 13 2010 04:14 GMT
#352
On October 13 2010 13:12 rasers wrote:
this could also mean that there will be another MSL or?

y... big drama on the 16th. people might die ! ^^


No word on MSL.

Even if there's no MSL, proleague is the key to the survival of the BW proscene. If proleague survives, there's always a chance they may revive MSL in the future.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
October 13 2010 04:15 GMT
#353
Let's hope it's not just weekends but rather the 5 day/week schedule.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:16:58
October 13 2010 04:16 GMT
#354
yeah yeah.. there was no word.. i just mean if they agreed on proleague mb they also agreed on MSL : ) *hope* and yes plz not only weekend!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 13 2010 04:17 GMT
#355
On October 13 2010 13:15 Lightwip wrote:
Let's hope it's not just weekends but rather the 5 day/week schedule.


With 2 fewer teams, technically they can have a 3-4 day schedule.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
October 13 2010 04:17 GMT
#356
On October 13 2010 13:15 Lightwip wrote:
Let's hope it's not just weekends but rather the 5 day/week schedule.


not going to happen with gsl taking all the prime-time slots.

only way 5 days is going to work is if they play the monday/tuesday games during the afternoon.
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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
October 13 2010 04:21 GMT
#357
On October 13 2010 09:13 Mintastic wrote:
I think SC2 will overtake the success that BW had. It's much more spectator friendly and easier for people to understand what they're watching. BW required you to have a lot of hardcore knowledge about the game to enjoy the matches. Seems like SC2 already has a larger momentum globally already.


I disagree. Sc2 is much harder to watch. The view angle and zoom lvl makes it difficult to see what's actually happening in an army battle as opposed to bw. Also you do need greater game knowledge of sc2 units and their counters to understand what's going on. Bw is much simpler in that respect. Its clear what every unit does after u seen it once. Sc2 units have quirks to them u might not see until used. As a spectator more than a player i find sc2 overall to be harder to follow.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:33:33
October 13 2010 04:24 GMT
#358
I really do believe that its inevitable that a team league will start up for SC2 if BW Proleague ever does go down. I also think it's currently incredibly important for anyone to be able to participate in tournaments for SC2 to develop. If it's a closed system like for BW (you need to obtain a pro-gamer license, then manage to join a Pro-team to even get off the ground), it'll be discouraging for potential gamers. Right now, most importantly they have to maximize the player/fan base for SC2 to have a bright E-Sports future.
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
October 13 2010 04:29 GMT
#359
On October 13 2010 13:02 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 12:39 metaldragon wrote:
On October 13 2010 12:14 Ryo wrote:
Good news, 2hrs ago, MBCGame tweeted this:

[image loading]

Proleague is likely to start. =)



Am i the only one that cant read Korean and has no idea what this says!?

"it seems proleague will start soon."


Yessss

It's all good people. 100 more years of Brood War. Don't even worry bout it.
Varbind
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada113 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:35:31
October 13 2010 04:34 GMT
#360
On October 13 2010 02:29 leakingpear wrote:
You say that like KeSPA haven't been abusing the eSports movement for years and years now in order to further the companies that constitute it in terms of advertising and even revenue through the PL broadcasting rights issue. The players have been systematically trained to downplay their own efforts and achievements so they don't at any point abuse their celebrity in a way that could upset the systems that KeSPA have created. This is probably the first time in 6 or 7 years that many of these progamers have thought about anything but progressing within the current rigid system, without ever questioning whether the system itself is a good idea in the first place.

The Korean eSports scene thrived because of the combination of celebrity and production values, of which sponsors were needed, but ever since the Boxer boom the balance of power has slowly and steadily swung into a system where players are meant to just be grateful to play for such a venerable and great team and give up everything in order to continue. I suspect the majority of progamers still love brood war, but that doesn't mean they should love the perverted system that just happens to be the only choice, especially when they can have better prospects in a game that's very similar and has the added option of being somewhat undiscovered in terms of strategy.

Also progamers are people, people with lives and not zealots for the great god brood war intent on dying for their cause, as much as you won't want to admit it, brood war is just a game and these kids probably have other ambitions down the road, like going to college, or having a family, or selling fruit.



Wow, this was a fantastic post, thank you! So often people do not consider what it must be like to be one of these drones/progammers underneath Kespa. It has always struck me how robotic they are especially in interviews. They simply have no character/uniqueness. The difference is so notable in the GSL, they have the ability to act normally and are far more animated and actually act like the incredibly young people they actually are. Honestly under Kespa the progammers always reminded me of the athletes from Russia at the olympics.....afraid to say the wrong thing.
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