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drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
September 09 2010 12:30 GMT
#301
Good thing about SC2 is that people without crazy mechanics and APM (JD flash) can compete again, i.e all the old pros. Looking forward to this.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 12:51:58
September 09 2010 12:50 GMT
#302
On September 09 2010 19:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
I would imagine Boxer will have more to gain than Nada. Nada has always had an advantage in mechanics, which doesn't transfer over to SC2 very well because his particular skills aren't needed. Boxer on the other hand has always had the ability to show what has not been seen. In a new game where people are still learning? And in a game where you don't need 400 apm like Nada? Boxer is going to make a joke of people.


Don't forget that he's basically playing a game where someone can sit on one base and is required to make dropships...
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wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
September 09 2010 12:50 GMT
#303
On September 09 2010 19:15 Scaramanga wrote:
[Not really, Nada might be able to make a switch but I don't see either him or Boxer being a top sc2 player. So they are going to forfit their contracts with their teams to join a team where they are going to get a fraction of the wage they are getting at the moment for the chance to win some prize money?

I would guess both Nada and Boxer have a million $ on the bank already? Don't think their decision is influenced by money.
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
September 09 2010 13:02 GMT
#304
On September 09 2010 21:50 wiesel wrote:

I would guess both Nada and Boxer have a million $ on the bank already? Don't think their decision is influenced by money.


Sure it is.
If GSL winner's prize is $100, do you think they will quit the team?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
September 09 2010 13:03 GMT
#305
On September 09 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 19:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
I would imagine Boxer will have more to gain than Nada. Nada has always had an advantage in mechanics, which doesn't transfer over to SC2 very well because his particular skills aren't needed. Boxer on the other hand has always had the ability to show what has not been seen. In a new game where people are still learning? And in a game where you don't need 400 apm like Nada? Boxer is going to make a joke of people.


Don't forget that he's basically playing a game where someone can sit on one base and is required to make dropships...


I know right? Holy shit lol. One base dropships and nukes. Basically gg.
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
September 09 2010 13:07 GMT
#306
if this is serious SC2 will destroy SC faster than we all thought
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
September 09 2010 13:08 GMT
#307
On September 09 2010 19:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
I would imagine Boxer will have more to gain than Nada. Nada has always had an advantage in mechanics, which doesn't transfer over to SC2 very well because his particular skills aren't needed. Boxer on the other hand has always had the ability to show what has not been seen. In a new game where people are still learning? And in a game where you don't need 400 apm like Nada? Boxer is going to make a joke of people.

I totally agree.

I mean, who the fuck is tester.. just a random shitty practice partner that made a few TV appearances. I don't think that at any point was Tester better than Boxer even in SC1 where other things aside from talent and creativity mattered.
So, if he's the feared one in SC2 now, I don't see how anyone can doubt Boxer will do great. Until the top top progamers switch, but even then, I won't write him off until I see concrete evidence he's not up to par in this game.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
September 09 2010 13:13 GMT
#308
On September 09 2010 22:03 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
On September 09 2010 19:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
I would imagine Boxer will have more to gain than Nada. Nada has always had an advantage in mechanics, which doesn't transfer over to SC2 very well because his particular skills aren't needed. Boxer on the other hand has always had the ability to show what has not been seen. In a new game where people are still learning? And in a game where you don't need 400 apm like Nada? Boxer is going to make a joke of people.


Don't forget that he's basically playing a game where someone can sit on one base and is required to make dropships...


I know right? Holy shit lol. One base dropships and nukes. Basically gg.


And you know what's even better? The map pool is filled with tons of ridiculous gimicky maps that will let him get away with it like back in the day lol.

I seriously wonder how long it will take before we have a Lim Yo-Hwan Barracks Float Rush on Twilight Fortress Replay. :DDDD
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Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
September 09 2010 13:15 GMT
#309
sc2 allows boxer to be himself without the worry to put scvs to mine and other pain points. Sucks to be Fantasy, lost half of his crazy builds. Fox lost their leader, sums it up.

Yellow wouldn't switch, he is, imo, the best zerg KT has.

Anyone know how many votes boxer/nada had on the last allstar match? This should give a hint on how many bw fans are going to pay attention to sc2 if they switch.
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Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
September 09 2010 13:42 GMT
#310
Guide to epic SC2.

Step 1: Have Boxer play SC2.

Step 2: Have him pick Zerg.

Step 3: Inform him that Banelings exist.

Step 4: Nerdgasm as he destroys opposing armies with burrowed banelings.


Also, in the GSL cast today Tasteless mentioned that he talked to Nal_ra about SC2, and Nal_ra said that he loved the game. If that's true, then there's the legendary Protoss. Of course he recently put effort into getting competitive at BW again (Oldboy) so he may just be enjoying the game as a game. Either way, should be an interesting next few months.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
September 09 2010 13:44 GMT
#311
would be awesome!!!!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 09 2010 13:49 GMT
#312
I don't think that Boxer has the skill and shape to success. He is too slow and too old even for Sc2.

His all-star game vs Yellow was pathetic. Stomped by hydra-queen ... and he wasn't even trying something unorthodox.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 09 2010 13:52 GMT
#313
On September 09 2010 03:26 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 03:19 alffla wrote:
ah well. i guess they're not getting any playtime in bw anyway so might as well.

goodbye bw legends. -_-

You dont say goodbye to them, they will be legends forever.

Boxer going to show these newbs what micro really is


Yeah, I hope he plays Protoss and does the most amazing blink micro anyone has ever seen!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 09 2010 13:55 GMT
#314
On September 09 2010 22:49 Boblion wrote:
I don't think that Boxer has the skill and shape to success. He is too slow and too old even for Sc2.

His all-star game vs Yellow was pathetic. Stomped by hydra-queen ... and he wasn't even trying something unorthodox.


Lol really? I wouldn't say any of that. He is a legend in micro and creative strats. TLO is creative in the foreign community and Boxer was the most creative player and had the best micro strats in the beginning of the game. This is a new game and he will do the same thing. Too slow? He has plenty of speed for sc2, I doubt that he is under 200 apm in BW.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 09 2010 13:56 GMT
#315
If NaDa really left WeMade then there is zero reason for me to support them anymore. GG.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
September 09 2010 14:08 GMT
#316
Boxer is gonna have so much fun with Terran in SC2, especially on the current map pool. Reapers and Hellions, salvagable bunkers, ghosts that are 100% viable in competitive matches, Medivacs, Ravens, Banshees...

for an expert in harassing micro and crazy strategies, SC2 Terran is a wet dream. Especially with the current state of the game, where there aren't that many players with stellar mechanics, and the game has barely been explored yet.

I think this could be very, very good for Boxer, and very, very good for SC2, because if there's one guy who can be relied on to come up with new strategies to advance the game, its Boxer.

Nada...well, I think he'll be amazing, but I have a feeling it will be more in terms of just outright dominating other players than it will be in terms of revolutionizing strategy. Nada-level mechanics aren't something that lower level players can just look at and copy. He'll raise the level of play among top pros though, because to keep up other pros will need to improve their own mechanics in turn.

I'm also psyched for July, just to see if he can bring back that old "swarm" feel of BW Zerg.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 09 2010 14:16 GMT
#317
On September 09 2010 22:42 Vortok wrote:
Guide to epic SC2.

Step 1: Have Boxer play SC2.

Step 2: Have him pick Zerg.

Step 3: Inform him that Banelings exist.

Step 4: Nerdgasm as he destroys opposing armies with burrowed banelings.


Also, in the GSL cast today Tasteless mentioned that he talked to Nal_ra about SC2, and Nal_ra said that he loved the game. If that's true, then there's the legendary Protoss. Of course he recently put effort into getting competitive at BW again (Oldboy) so he may just be enjoying the game as a game. Either way, should be an interesting next few months.


too bad it'll be almost 2 years before we can see kang min in any tournaments. then again, at that point both x-pacs should be out so the game will be much further along.
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Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
September 09 2010 14:25 GMT
#318
Pretty happy to read this even though I much prefer BW over SC2. However, these guys were no longer able to compete and at least this way I get to see more Boxer/Nada action. And with Boxer you are basically garantueed nukes every game :D
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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
September 09 2010 14:48 GMT
#319
Its nice to see how even in this thread, there are a lot of people saying, "I'm not a fan of SC2, but I like Boxer/Nada/July enough that I'll tune in to watch them play."

Thats exactly the kind of star power SC2 needs to really take off and start converting old diehards. All it takes is a few really exciting, well-played matches for someone to realize that even if SC2 is a *different* game, that doesn't make it a *bad* game.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
September 09 2010 15:08 GMT
#320
On September 09 2010 23:48 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Its nice to see how even in this thread, there are a lot of people saying, "I'm not a fan of SC2, but I like Boxer/Nada/July enough that I'll tune in to watch them play."

Thats exactly the kind of star power SC2 needs to really take off and start converting old diehards. All it takes is a few really exciting, well-played matches for someone to realize that even if SC2 is a *different* game, that doesn't make it a *bad* game.


I don't think anyone is inferring that SC2 is bad because it's different. More like it's not necessarily better because it's new and has a "2" at the end of its name.

Guys like those 3 can definitely help make SC2 look a lot more exciting than it currently is, but I for one think that won't be nearly enough to match BW's level unless a couple of significant changes are made to the actual game.

Kinda off-topic though.
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