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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
September 09 2010 09:41 GMT
#281
I don't see nada or boxer being any better off in the sc2 scene than they are in the bw scene, whats to recommend they'll dominate?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
September 09 2010 09:46 GMT
#282
OMG nada and boxer to SC2!! It's almost too good to be true ))
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51639 Posts
September 09 2010 09:49 GMT
#283
nada still has the mechanics. boxer.... frankly, will flop at sc2.
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Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
September 09 2010 09:49 GMT
#284
Should be posted in the SC2 section. Sad news. Really.
Elena[PaiN]
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
September 09 2010 09:51 GMT
#285
On September 09 2010 18:49 GTR wrote:
nada still has the mechanics. boxer.... frankly, will flop at sc2.

really? the game is so much less APM intensive though, im sure boxer still has 200+APM.
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 10:00:12
September 09 2010 09:58 GMT
#286
Called it - the SC1 progaming pyramide collapsing from bottom up. Soon there will be no people for the top progamers to practice with.


On September 09 2010 18:41 Scaramanga wrote:
I don't see nada or boxer being any better off in the sc2 scene than they are in the bw scene, whats to recommend they'll dominate?

Don't you think they'll be more competitive in the SC2 scene than they are now? If you do, then you'll agree that it's a pretty good reason to switch, assuming their wish is to still live the progamer life.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
September 09 2010 10:15 GMT
#287
On September 09 2010 18:58 niteReloaded wrote:
Called it - the SC1 progaming pyramide collapsing from bottom up. Soon there will be no people for the top progamers to practice with.


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 18:41 Scaramanga wrote:
I don't see nada or boxer being any better off in the sc2 scene than they are in the bw scene, whats to recommend they'll dominate?

Don't you think they'll be more competitive in the SC2 scene than they are now? If you do, then you'll agree that it's a pretty good reason to switch, assuming their wish is to still live the progamer life.

Not really, Nada might be able to make a switch but I don't see either him or Boxer being a top sc2 player. So they are going to forfit their contracts with their teams to join a team where they are going to get a fraction of the wage they are getting at the moment for the chance to win some prize money?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
September 09 2010 10:21 GMT
#288
On September 09 2010 19:15 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 18:58 niteReloaded wrote:
Called it - the SC1 progaming pyramide collapsing from bottom up. Soon there will be no people for the top progamers to practice with.


On September 09 2010 18:41 Scaramanga wrote:
I don't see nada or boxer being any better off in the sc2 scene than they are in the bw scene, whats to recommend they'll dominate?

Don't you think they'll be more competitive in the SC2 scene than they are now? If you do, then you'll agree that it's a pretty good reason to switch, assuming their wish is to still live the progamer life.

Not really, Nada might be able to make a switch but I don't see either him or Boxer being a top sc2 player. So they are going to forfit their contracts with their teams to join a team where they are going to get a fraction of the wage they are getting at the moment for the chance to win some prize money?


You don't think they're at least more skilled/talented/creative than Tester, who has managed to be fairly "dominant" so far? I think they're going to wreck everyone. It's one thing to be skilled - it's another to be not just skilled but also know how to win games and tournaments. Even Madfrog, an old WC3 pro from a loooong time ago (we're talking like 04/05 here) was able to jump back in after not playing for like 5 years (and this is a wc3 player we're talking about though he did play BW back in like 01 I think) and be competitive just off of his raw RTS talent and experience. I think pantheon-level legends like Boxer/Nada/July are like that times a thousand.

Also I really don't think Boxer/Nada/July are getting paid like they used to. I mean, why would they? Fair is fair, even if they're legends there's no way they're still raking in the gigantic salaries they once did. They're probably making good salaries (great salaries if you factor in the part where they barely play) but it's not quite giving up say $200k a year big.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
September 09 2010 10:32 GMT
#289
I would imagine Boxer will have more to gain than Nada. Nada has always had an advantage in mechanics, which doesn't transfer over to SC2 very well because his particular skills aren't needed. Boxer on the other hand has always had the ability to show what has not been seen. In a new game where people are still learning? And in a game where you don't need 400 apm like Nada? Boxer is going to make a joke of people.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 10:37:04
September 09 2010 10:34 GMT
#290
I can believe it about July. Maybe for Nada, never for Boxer. I don't think he wan't to practice that much anymore. Often in interviews he talks about how hard it is to succeed as a pro. Now when he's got a nice coach job and a wife I don't think he would do it.

On September 09 2010 19:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
I would imagine Boxer will have more to gain than Nada. Nada has always had an advantage in mechanics, which doesn't transfer over to SC2 very well because his particular skills aren't needed. Boxer on the other hand has always had the ability to show what has not been seen. In a new game where people are still learning? And in a game where you don't need 400 apm like Nada? Boxer is going to make a joke of people.



This is a good point though imo.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
September 09 2010 10:35 GMT
#291
On September 09 2010 19:15 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 18:58 niteReloaded wrote:
Called it - the SC1 progaming pyramide collapsing from bottom up. Soon there will be no people for the top progamers to practice with.


On September 09 2010 18:41 Scaramanga wrote:
I don't see nada or boxer being any better off in the sc2 scene than they are in the bw scene, whats to recommend they'll dominate?

Don't you think they'll be more competitive in the SC2 scene than they are now? If you do, then you'll agree that it's a pretty good reason to switch, assuming their wish is to still live the progamer life.

Not really, Nada might be able to make a switch but I don't see either him or Boxer being a top sc2 player. So they are going to forfit their contracts with their teams to join a team where they are going to get a fraction of the wage they are getting at the moment for the chance to win some prize money?

So they may or may not become the best players on the scene. I don't even think it's about the money for them. Don't you think they're just tired of BW at this point? I'm pretty sure Boxer/NaDa have been burned out for awhile now. Why not forgo some easy money to actually get back to enjoying what you do again?

I think this is great news for SC2. With some of the greatest legends of BW transferring over they're bound to draw their fanclubs into watching the game, which can only be a good thing for SC2. I think this is a great move for them. Not only do they have a chance to recapture their passion for gaming, but they once again have the opportunity to pioneer and become the figure heads of a brand new eSport.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 09 2010 10:39 GMT
#292
Nada has some of the best mechanics of all time, lol at people saying he wouldnt succeed in sc2 which is even less mechanicly demanding.

also, he's been a top player since 2002 which has to mean something?
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
September 09 2010 10:49 GMT
#293
On September 09 2010 19:39 Pulimuli wrote:
also, he's[NADA] been a top player since 2002 which has to mean something?

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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 09 2010 11:28 GMT
#294
I'm sad that they're joining SC2 in light of Activision Blizzard's attempt to kill off BW, but at least SC2 will get some truly skilled players now, so I guess this is still good news.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
September 09 2010 11:34 GMT
#295
Amazing news!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 11:54:17
September 09 2010 11:52 GMT
#296
Omgomgomg NaDa???!@#?! Brb nerdgasming.

I hope Boxer abuses Terran to the max (even moreso than they are being used currently.)
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
September 09 2010 12:06 GMT
#297
On September 09 2010 20:52 Entropic wrote:
Omgomgomg NaDa???!@#?! Brb nerdgasming.

I hope Boxer abuses Terran to the max (even moreso than they are being used currently.)

I hope BoxeR won't use Terran. In SC1, he chose the weakest race during his time which is Terran. So that would simply mean that he would most likely pick Zerg and apply his creativity to revolutionize the playstyle!
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia975 Posts
September 09 2010 12:08 GMT
#298
One of them has to pick protoss, and then the trio will dominate every race respectively.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 09 2010 12:15 GMT
#299
On September 09 2010 21:06 lolaloc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 20:52 Entropic wrote:
Omgomgomg NaDa???!@#?! Brb nerdgasming.

I hope Boxer abuses Terran to the max (even moreso than they are being used currently.)

I hope BoxeR won't use Terran. In SC1, he chose the weakest race during his time which is Terran. So that would simply mean that he would most likely pick Zerg and apply his creativity to revolutionize the playstyle!


he played protoss but when reavers got nerfed he swtiched to terran, him picking races had nothing to do with how easy they were
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[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
September 09 2010 12:16 GMT
#300
I actually think that Boxer could have a good chance of a well comeback, because this game is so much more into scouting and strategic movements.
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