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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 24 2004 16:01 GMT
#21
There was an excellent post on this back in the days, even blizz had it. Of course it is lost now

and Day is right. Latency affekts how often the game sends packets. Naturally, if the packets are sent less frequently, your command have to wait a while to be issued.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
June 24 2004 16:01 GMT
#22
Sometimes I worry about the community when someone with such high post counts doesn't know something I learned the first month I played multiplayer.
booooo
Profile Joined March 2004
Singapore372 Posts
June 24 2004 16:25 GMT
#23
never cease to irritate me when someone changes latency to very high right at the start of a lag free game, proclaims you are a newbie when you change back to very low, and proceeds to engage in a F10-O-N-L/V keypress war with you, swears at you, get thrashed very badly, then accuse you of map hacking.
I love SCVs!
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
June 24 2004 16:28 GMT
#24
I sometimes set it to piss people off - take them out of their game.
Proud Mensrea No-Prize Winner. Click the Banner Ads. I would keep a lamer list, but I love you all.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
June 24 2004 16:47 GMT
#25
Yeap, latency doesn't make the lag go away, it just makes it seem like that :D
River me timbers.
nvnplatypus
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Netherlands1300 Posts
June 24 2004 17:01 GMT
#26
On June 25 2004 00:14 Day[9] wrote:
put in very simple terms

low latency sends out very very small packets of information very frequently. hence it will be a tad laggier because the server will be looking for the information almost instantly, and if it doesnt come, it will pause and wait for the info to come

extra high latency is similar to the shock memory on a CD player. It operates a few seconds behind so that, if any information lags behind slightly, it has about a second or two to catch up. This poses a problem because essentially, no matter what, your micro, macro, and etcetera will always be a second or so behind in any game.

low latency is nice because the server will wait for all your commands, at the cost of the lag box coming.


That is the right answer mostly. Except the difference in reponse times isn't quite as drastic as a whole or several seconds. It's a few hundred milliseconds difference, which is still quite a lot.

ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 24 2004 17:12 GMT
#27
On June 25 2004 01:25 booooo wrote:
never cease to irritate me when someone changes latency to very high right at the start of a lag free game, proclaims you are a newbie when you change back to very low, and proceeds to engage in a F10-O-N-L/V keypress war with you, swears at you, get thrashed very badly, then accuse you of map hacking.


I usually leave when people do this. That kind of newbies ain't really worth the time.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-24 17:38:58
June 24 2004 17:32 GMT
#28
i abhor anything but extra high.

infact, i would rather play in a lag filled game with low latency than a lagless extra high latency.

i hate ehl.
Happiness only real when shared.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
June 24 2004 17:36 GMT
#29
If people put it on ehl, and I put it on low, and they put it on extra high again, I leave the game.
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 24 2004 17:38 GMT
#30
On June 25 2004 02:36 iD.Twisted wrote:
If people put it on ehl, and I put it on low, and they put it on extra high again, I leave the game.


amen
Happiness only real when shared.
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
June 24 2004 18:02 GMT
#31
blizzard once sent me an e-mail explaineing what lag and latency is and everything, go ask them, they know. -_-;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
KiD[ReD]
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada2103 Posts
June 24 2004 18:10 GMT
#32
On June 25 2004 01:01 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:
Sometimes I worry about the community when someone with such high post counts doesn't know something I learned the first month I played multiplayer.


Yeah.. well.. me suck.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 24 2004 18:33 GMT
#33
On June 25 2004 03:02 Dave307 wrote:
blizzard once sent me an e-mail explaineing what lag and latency is and everything, go ask them, they know. -_-;

Or you can read this thread. -_-
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 24 2004 18:57 GMT
#34
higher actually sends more information so that even if some info is lost it all still gets there because it was sent more than once
AnOther
Profile Joined April 2004
565 Posts
June 24 2004 19:09 GMT
#35
low is good
high is bad
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
June 24 2004 19:22 GMT
#36
It depends on whether someone lags more than the delay added by the latency setting. If someone lags at 1.2 and extra high is .8, you might be better off at extra high than low.
Proud Mensrea No-Prize Winner. Click the Banner Ads. I would keep a lamer list, but I love you all.
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-24 19:28:52
June 24 2004 19:24 GMT
#37
I enter a 1v1 pub game with a random Korean, terran vs opponent's random

after first minute of the game:

<random Korean sets latency to EXTRA HIGH>!
-I set it to low again, explain there is no lag, make barrack earlier, scout diagonally, prepare for a rush
-rush comes, I defend

Korean: "map map! ;;; ????????" and leaves


-People who set it to extra high when there is no lag often intend to have more effective rush/pressure/cheese
-diagonal scouting = "map" ;D
Member of the "Fuck Yeah, Canata !" committee :-) to join copy/paste this
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
June 24 2004 21:14 GMT
#38
On June 24 2004 23:16 KiD[ReD] wrote:
That's strange.. I never noticed a difference between them.. maybe I'll try it sometime..

BTW.. I made that conversation up obviously guys.. heh..


I don't know what race you are playing. But as protoss, a zealot rush with extra high latency is a rather stupid thing to do. If you try to run the most damaged zealot away, it will most of the time just die, because it takes so $%&$&% long for the move-command to take effect. It's like using drums instead of radio communication.

I usually leave the game, if it is lag-free and my opponent refuses to play with low latency.

Drazzzt aka ShortNotice
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
June 24 2004 21:17 GMT
#39
As we are already talking about it. Setting Latency on high or extra high does only help if the game is _constantly_ lagging. It doesn't help at all if there is game where there are long lags only _once in a while_.

Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
Liquid`RaSZi
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2766 Posts
June 24 2004 21:40 GMT
#40
kid[red] just read what they say in the menu?
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