EPTsrsly .. people who posted hate towards Kespa and praising B.net are sure full of themselves .. lol
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
srsly .. people who posted hate towards Kespa and praising B.net are sure full of themselves .. lol | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On July 30 2010 21:22 aimaimaim wrote: people really hyped about SC2 and think its gonna make way for an International Proleague are now dumb founded .. srsly .. people who posted hate towards Kespa and praising B.net are sure full of themselves .. lol it could still happen if blizzard can get over themselves and fix up these serious issues | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On July 30 2010 13:53 T.O.P. wrote: Yeah. I still don't understand what people were thinking when they were all excited about Blizzard taking over esports. They think Blizzard will come in and pay progamers very high salaries along with a 40 hour work week. I was one of the people who had initially hoped that Blizzard would be willing to invest and nurture the e-sport scene. What a sad joke. Everything indicate only one fact, Activision Blizzard is not interested in investing anything. All they want is immediate return and long term return in term of profit. | ||
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LockStep
Canada3 Posts
I will primarily play SC2 now but I'll always pick up Bw/SC and play them on occasion. Still, it would be nice if non-pro gamers such as myself and my friends were able to easily setup a private tournament using B.Net 2.0. Maybe in B.Net 2.1 ?  | ||
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Ighox
Norway580 Posts
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ZeGzoR
Sweden307 Posts
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On July 30 2010 05:14 Milkis wrote: I'm willing to help most people who wants to translate and help them with corrections, tips, whatever. However, even assigning anything to a "new" translator is risky -- 1) you're not going to be translating that because you have assigned it, 2) you don't know how good it will be, so you potentially end up with an article that should have been translated, but was not translated because either the quality is poor or the new translator just ended up being bag filled with air. I'm going to back up Milkis on this. Correcting bad translations is harder and more time consuming than translating from scratch. There's the problem of the translation being wrong and having to figure out how it went wrong. Then there's the problem of the translation using non-standard expressions. If you do it yourself, you get it right on the first or second take. If you have to correct someone else, their poor word selection ends up derailing the whole process. | ||
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iMaNeRD
Australia6 Posts
Does anyone know how StarCraft 2 has sold in Korea? I am very interested to know as I believe 6 of the 10 million copies of StarCraft: Broodwar was sold in Korea. I also want to advise people that any publicly traded company has a number one goal of profit. This is because the shareholders are the owners of the company and people buy shares for return. Correct me if I am wrong but activision is a traded company, therefore it makes sense for them to go after profit. I for one don't blame them for this, as this is why they spend so much money making a high quality games to sell well. I don't know the situaton with KesPA but I believe your eggs would be better off in their basket rather than Blizzards when it comes to any e-sports. The reason being is that Blizzard/Activision would only support e-sports if it returns profits for them. I do find it bewildering though how blizzard take for granted the free exposure and publicity pro gamers bring to the game. As for the people arguing whether Brood War or StarCraft 2 are better, this is how I look at it, this is with an example. Lets take Counter Strike 1.6 and Source and compare them. Counter Strike 1.6 is still the premier eposrts first person shooter, being featured in the world cyber games etc. This is because the game is alot harder than source. However, if you log on to steam, you will see 100,000 people playing source at anyone time and merely 50,000 - 60,000 on 1.6. StarCraft2 and Brood War may end up the same. Where Brood War which is more skill intensive is more competitive, whereas StarCraft 2 is more popular and has more players. Another example of this is Quake 3 Arena and quake 4 with more tournaments going back to quak 3 for its competitive edge. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
Does anyone know how StarCraft 2 has sold in Korea? I am very interested to know as I believe 6 of the 10 million copies of StarCraft: Broodwar was sold in Korea. I haven't seen any numbers. The "6 of the 10 million copies of SC BW in Korea" is kinda misleading in that most of the sales are in PC Bangs, and that SC2 doesn't really have that option for PC bangs this time around. whereas StarCraft 2 is more popular and has more players. Hardly. There's many reasons why a SC2 league won't be as close as successful to BW in Korea. BW is quite unique as a game cause it came into Korea at the right time. | ||
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
Edit: Thanks for the translation Milkis <3 | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On July 31 2010 02:25 LockStep wrote: I love both games. I still play the original SC as opposed to Bw because the dynamics of the game changes. Still the same balanced game but with different strats available. I will primarily play SC2 now but I'll always pick up Bw/SC and play them on occasion. Still, it would be nice if non-pro gamers such as myself and my friends were able to easily setup a private tournament using B.Net 2.0. Maybe in B.Net 2.1 ? hahaha I thought I was the only one who played the original SC w/ my friends.. Firebat/Tank in TvZ is awesome O_o but Muta/Gaurd sucks >< | ||
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poptartazn
United States84 Posts
sc2 will find rather limited popularity in the average home because of Korea's incredibly academic culture, which is one of the reasons why PC Bangs are popular in the first place. sc2 will find more and more criticisms as it screws with Koreans and the law, especially considering how they're almost spitting on the rules of Korea for the sake of their own benefit, at the detriment of.. Korea. Prideful people we are, btw =/ overall, I don't think sc2 will really succeed in Korea. it'll go decent for a few years, then it'll die. in 10 years we'll be going "remember that game that had its own amazing culture around it? no, not that crappy game, the one before that... yeah broodwar, that one" | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9571 Posts
On August 06 2010 14:52 poptartazn wrote: Pretty much, sc2 will not have any popularity in PC Bangs because of its immense subscription fees and other costs, perhaps like expansion sets and such. sc2 will find rather limited popularity in the average home because of Korea's incredibly academic culture, which is one of the reasons why PC Bangs are popular in the first place. sc2 will find more and more criticisms as it screws with Koreans and the law, especially considering how they're almost spitting on the rules of Korea for the sake of their own benefit, at the detriment of.. Korea. Prideful people we are, btw =/ overall, I don't think sc2 will really succeed in Korea. it'll go decent for a few years, then it'll die. in 10 years we'll be going "remember that game that had its own amazing culture around it? no, not that crappy game, the one before that... yeah broodwar, that one" I really like your post, except that last part. I wish in 10 years it'll go something more like this: "remember that game that had an amazing hype and culture of it's predecessor around it, but failed horribly? sc3? no, not that crappy game, the one before that... yeah sc2, that one. Oh well, at least we still have our broodwar." | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On July 30 2010 02:25 AyJay wrote: Yet again, there are many BW fanboys in starcraft2 forum starting flame wars, trying to convince everyone how Bw is 1000x times better. You mean there are Broodwar fanboys on Teamliquid, a Broodwar site? A site that has years and years of culture and fans built up on Broodwar? Damn.. + Show Spoiler + On July 29 2010 23:11 Mellotron wrote: Im glad Blizzard is forcing SC2 on Korea. Koreans need to embrace SC2 in my opinion. Not because of ugly reasons like "BW is old" or whatever. More because i think they could do well with it. For their PC cafe culture SC2 is awesome. Anyone over there who has been playing BW all this time should at least give SC2 maybe a year or so of constant online playing, THEN see what they think. So what if Blizzard broke sign law. So what if Blizzard paid for good reviews. The game deserves great reviews. Anyone playing the campaign or laddering right now who doesnt dig it is crazy. Yeah there are some imperfect things. But nothing to give a bad review over. Just because a little kid wants to eat 15 gumballs because his natural instinct is to enjoy the taste of sugar, sometimes you just gotta go over his head and take it from him so he doesnt get sick. And just because some Korean people are unsure of SC2 because of things like "Blizzards business model" or "rumors", doesnt mean that the game sucks or that it isnt worth at least a year or so of playing it and seeing how far it can go. Watch the behind the scenes DVD for christs sake. All of the actual artists that created SC2 are brilliant, hilarious people. SC2 is their idea and their hard work. When you buy and play SC2 you are buying it because of those peoples creativity and dedication. Who cares if the company is owned by people who are trying to maximize profits? The artists themselves who created it should get some credit and people should stop saying Blizzard is just after money and turned evil etc. Thats such a modern day cliche. Its only being said because people like to say sensationalist things and everyone feels smart being a watch dog for consumer fairness and nobody wants to fall for being duped by some "evil corporate monster". The artists and designers are completely different people with completely different reasons for doing what they do than the business men that squeeze every dollar out in less than appealing ways. I think if people want to go on a witch hunt for companies that arent giving people their moneys worth, Blizzard should be about last on that list. Glad to see Kespa having to negotiate. Glad to see Savior attempting a PR makeover. I think its messed up what he did but id be happy if he came right back for SC2. Btw, Blizzard stands to make a ton of money from SC2, but so do all the pro teams and businesses in Korea, and pretty much South Korea in general. lol? If the game was good, no one would care about the business tactics. If the game was good, Blizzard wouldn't need those business tactics anyway. | ||
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jHERO
China167 Posts
whoever is in charge of their marketing down there really deserves to be fired | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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