[News] Odds and Ends - 7/22/2010 ~ 7/29/2010 - Page 4

On July 29 2010 18:29 Lokian wrote:
Who cares about E-sports? Really? Do you think Kespa cares? Seeing as how they rather be head-honcho than negotiate, I beg to differ.

On July 30 2010 04:23 heyoka wrote:


I'm going to step in here and say this isn't how it works. You don't go around "requesting to be deployed". TL doesn't work this way, you know why? Because everyone volunteers and has tons of time to help out until it comes time to actually do anything, then very few produce. You get on a team by doing things on your own. We need people who are self motivated, who do things without having to be told.

If you showed some initiative and actually did some content, great, this would be a totally different story. You haven't.

On July 30 2010 01:05 Zona wrote:

Your very one-sided rant prompted me to look at your post history.

All your posts are simply about how SC2 cannot have flaws and how professional Brood War was fixed. You seem to have an agenda.

On July 30 2010 04:19 Saracen wrote:
Time for a grudgematch

Then just say so. Milkis being such a dick about it was completely uncalled for (unless there was some previous incident where QuickStriker was told this).

I mean, it should be pretty easy to figure out, but there was absolutely no reason to lash out like that instead of just nicely telling him that he doesn't need to ask permission to just go translate a PL interview. Even if he's been told that before, Milkis still ridiculously overreacted.

On July 30 2010 05:14 Milkis wrote:


I'm pretty sure he knows this. He has attempted to translate before, only to 1) quit after a short attempt, 2) only managed to translate one line in an interview during that time.

The point is this. No one will ask you to translate unless you have proven yourself to be a consistent and good translator. I've heard nothing but negative things about QS's stream translations, and judging by his attempt I witnessed, there's no reason why I should be asking him for help at all.

I'm willing to help most people who wants to translate and help them with corrections, tips, whatever. However, even assigning anything to a "new" translator is risky -- 1) you're not going to be translating that because you have assigned it, 2) you don't know how good it will be, so you potentially end up with an article that should have been translated, but was not translated because either the quality is poor or the new translator just ended up being bag filled with air.

My post was rude, but I don't believe it was overreacting. It was meant to be rude, a kick, so to speak, to QS saying that, instead of saying "I'll help I'll help" constantly in many, many threads I have witnessed, maybe he should actually put out something good and consistently before we even consider asking him for help. In my opinion it's extremely arrogant to think you can help out with something when you yourself admit that your language skills are absolutely poor, which is something QS has mentioned in the public many, many times. If he admits that his Korean is poor, then what reason do we have to ask him for help? The only way he's going to ever get better if he gets off his high horse and walks the talk and starts translating things himself and asking for help instead of "waiting" for anyone to ask him for help. It's ridiculous, and honestly, I find his attitude insulting to translators who actually put in effort, even to translators like white_horse, Nal_Rawr, and kOre, whose translations may not be perfect, but have put in tremendous effort and took it to themselves to translate. Simply put -- it's insulting and annoying. It's like the little kid who constantly brags about something but never proves it at all, except QS isn't exactly a little kid.

That's all I'm going to say about the subject. Sorry for having this turn into a fight.

On July 30 2010 05:33 Sunyveil wrote:
is it just me or does savior's apology sound more like a sob story?

On July 29 2010 23:45 infinity2k9 wrote:
For their PC cafe culture paying 20% of everything is clearly not awesome at all. Whoever siad Blizzard doesn't care about eSports - probably not true, they care as long as there's some profit in it for them. They don't seem to understand its free promotion of the game if they just let it evolve naturally. At the end of the day Blizzard isn't going to pay for proleagues/starleagues, pay progamers wages, their housing and food and basically isn't going to pay for anything.. they expect it all to be one way. They might sponsor a few tournaments at first for some post-launch hypepurposes but long term i doubt they have any interest to keep supporting an eSports scene.

On July 29 2010 18:29 Lokian wrote:

If you look at how they built BNET 2, it resembles a good system for international e-sports. They even said they will hold tournaments through the results of BNET2. I really can't see how you can say they don't care anything about e-sports seeing as how the whole game was set up for it.