EPTAlternative LT TvT?
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MasterZilla
Sweden234 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
Sometimes I try wraith/tank push as well, and it's a little more effective. in general though, there isn't much you can do | ||
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AutumnLight
Ukraine2488 Posts
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ObsoleteLogic
United States3676 Posts
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AutumnLight
Ukraine2488 Posts
 but it's fun to try anyway | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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BigBalls
United States5354 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
just do the classic 2 fac tank, defend his silly drop, float your rax to spot the cliff and have the exp for free .. ..go gollies yourself with later port, kill his drop with no loss to yourself and be ahead. seems pretty easy. | ||
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
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Pafnucy
Poland1124 Posts
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
i don't know if i like tvt more than pvp though, both are pretty entertaining | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28707 Posts
and it's possible to make zvz different and fun. hydra queen really isn't bad when you have the timing down. | ||
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StaSiS
United States147 Posts
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
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x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
TvT is cool if both players are good at it, but I suck so when my opponent choses Terran I dread the ensuing game. | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
Tank opening works really well against 2 fact golies. Research siege, leave like 1 tank at home, with good micro its possible to defend 4 goli drop with like 1-2 tanks. His siege will be late, you'll be able to do some damage with turret/tank. Also try going goli without dropship. The money saved by foregoing the dropship tech will buy you faster siege tanks and a faster expo. There is enough variation imo. | ||
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Codditer
United States70 Posts
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GooDGaMe
United States989 Posts
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SpuniasauR
Australia1500 Posts
thats always fun but hard to micro! and he won tvt in about 6-7 minutes | ||
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wlanedbz
United States158 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
On March 07 2004 14:43 BigBalls wrote: i always chose the good old f10 eqq ctrl q > | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
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FroZZoR
China925 Posts
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
I remember watching a TvT game, forgot who exactly. They were at 12 and 6, and had the same damn exact builds going. They even lifted off their rax and floated at each other at the same time. I think they only broke mirror was when one went mines and the other siege. | ||
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baal 2
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
On March 08 2004 00:49 FroZZoR wrote: an interesting build i never got the time to learn was 1 fact tank/1 starport build. It's extremely good vs anything but 2 port wraith, so u might want to look into that If you go gas before rax on this you can have cloakwraiths and siege mode with constant wraith/tank building .. its a nice art build .. | ||
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
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koehli
Germany350 Posts
works for me and takes the need to use mucho dropships as you can try to - nuke harrass expansions - nuke lingering dropships - no red spot - perimeter nuking: you can nuke tanks staying out of siege range by using blastradius for enhanced range. - nuke tank encampments and follow up with all army go - try to make him "flee" before a nuke into your sieged tanks ;-) A REALLY cool special I had in a recent game: EMP his comsats and then nuke "right in his face" where he even knows where your ghost is. Opponent was so busy checking his comsat that he left half his army in the nuke ;-) and went "wtf, didn't scan for a minute or so, :o" Sounds like a newbie strat and it is in a way. But just don't try funky stuff at start, make a flawless build getting fastest tank/turret and early game should be survivable. And lategame you'll have an assload of interesting possibilities. + if you are contained you should have a ghost in a ship to nuke harrass and also possibly be able to nuke your way to freedom + dropdefence: if he dropped his golli / tanks and sieged, you can run in your cloaked ghosts, lock sieged tanks and take out the dropforce with attackmoving metal armies ;-) + you can rely on lockdown vs battlecruiser so just tech straight to 3 3 metal (tank/gol), ignoring air tech. This is highly cost efficient, as Battlecruisers tend to majorly "slurp" your gas. + if he builds bcs remember to get emp/+ one vessel to emp those medics that he'll build for restore spell and emp medics before lockdown. gg, expecting to loose, you'll be amazed how often this wins (at least for me) ;-) | ||
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
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Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
oO~~ | ||
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koehli
Germany350 Posts
On March 08 2004 09:15 Kacas wrote: can we EMP Constat? oO~~ we can and it really made my day when i used it :D | ||
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SunShine
Netherlands787 Posts
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
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IcedEarth
United States3661 Posts
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
Wow. I NEVER knew the comsat could be EMPed. ^_^ | ||
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koehli
Germany350 Posts
On March 08 2004 15:24 IcedEarth wrote: Emp comsat can be countered. If he knows where the ghost is, all he has to do is move an scv right next to the cloaked ghost then siege attack til the ghost is dead. That's pretty cool, didn't think about that ole "antilurkertrick". Anyways, it's actually a lot harder to pull of then vs lurks/dts, nukeing ghosts don't blur and there are no spikes either, so you really have to remember the last position of blur. Good luck; if it stops you from moving away your scvs, all the sweeter if you fail to get the ghost ;-) | ||
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HurtnTime
United States296 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On March 09 2004 09:46 HurtnTime wrote: tvt is good fun. Agreed... I must be one of the few who finds it entertaining to both watch and play. | ||
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x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
On March 09 2004 17:34 EvilTeletubby wrote: Agreed... I must be one of the few who finds it entertaining to both watch and play. TvT is fun to watch but not to play. | ||
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Dang-it
United States557 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
For some, TvT is fun to watch but not fun to play For some, TvT is fun to play but not to watch For some, TvT is not fun to watch and no fun to play IMO TvT is a great match up in it, almost all terran units are used games are usually long and therefore more strategy and less tactics involved long games also mean greater satisfaction to win | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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AutumnLight
Ukraine2488 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On March 09 2004 21:27 MPXMX wrote: For some, TvT is fun to watch and fun to play For some, TvT is fun to watch but not fun to play For some, TvT is fun to play but not to watch For some, TvT is not fun to watch and no fun to play Replace the T's with either Z's or P's, rinse and repeat for all matchups. | ||
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taeWook
United States1367 Posts
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zeolot
United States62 Posts
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lastas
Sweden1219 Posts
tvt is my best mu, and i enjoy it as much as the others. | ||
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Death-Link
Greece126 Posts
remember to lift the barracks, because i forgot it and half of my troops were stuck between the rax and the cliffs  | ||
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