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Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 04:30:37
March 10 2010 10:31 GMT
#1
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A small step for man, a giant leap for mankind.


Over a decade has past in StarCraft and with StarCraft 2 so close on the horizon that we can almost smell it, it’s safe to say that it’s been quite a ride.

Innovations have not only occured in the field of actually playing the game or hosting tournaments, but also in the act of map-making. Things like inverted ramps and neutral buildings, that we these days take for granted, were in fact a result of diligent work of programmers and map-makers and was not present back in the days when StarCraft first was released.

+ Show Spoiler [Remember when maps looked like this?] +
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With innovations such as those in the art of map making, the standard of the maps have drastically risen and with it our expectations. Due to this, it’s easy to forget that the maps of today are a result of the maps of yesterday. It’s easy to forget the innovations that Blizzard themselves brought to the scene. Some of them were successful, most of them weren’t, but nonetheless they were innovations.

So let’s sit back and take a look at some of the innovations that we might have forgotten.


Mineral line as a wall

While using minerals to restrict access between bases might be something many relate to maps like (Wiki)King of the Abyss, (Wiki)Iron Curtain or to some extent (Wiki)Outsider, the fact is that the first time it showed up in StarCraft was on a map called (Wiki)Landslide.

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One could argue that this concept isn’t new to StarCraft and was present even back in WarCraft II and one would be correct to some extent.

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I would, however, argue back that the step from making trees serve as a wall between bases is less innovative than having minerals serve the same purpose, due to the fact that it's less intuitive and also because that wood in WarCraft II was cut through at such a quick rate that it was imperative that maps had a lot of it.

What was so unique about Landslide was the fact that not only did Blizzard take the concept of resources and turn them into a wall, but they also deliberately set the amount of resources so low that they in fact only served as a wall.

The concept of using minerals as a wall was later used again on the maps (Wiki)Vulcan's Forge and (Wiki)Mystique, though with more minerals in each patch that time around.


Critters. Lots and lots of critters.

This definitely goes under the label of an innovation that really didn’t work too well.

Since StarCraft is a battle of not only resources but also territory, critters that get in the way of your army or interrupt the placement of a building can change the tide of war drastically. Ask (Wiki)Reach what he thinks of critters and I’m sure that you’ll understand what I mean.

Now, while a few critters might change things up a bit and offer occasional entertainment for the viewers, an entire map covered in them might cause most players to go into nerd rage. While it might be a fun idea on paper, I doubt that (Wiki)Crazy Critters can be considered a map with high replay value.

+ Show Spoiler [Crazy Critters] +
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You see all those critters? Or did you just see the Rhynadons? Look closer. There are a ton of Bengalaas too.


To get a better idea of just how strange that map is, here’s a video of a game played on that map:


I think it’s safe to say that it wasn’t a good idea.

While Crazy Critters is the most extreme of all critter-maps made by Blizzard, it’s actually not the only one. Check out (Wiki)Scorpion Ravine, (Wiki)Ursadon Flats and (Wiki)Kakaru Keys for more examples of Blizzard experimenting with critters, though to a much more sensible degree.


Map depicting something

While this really is stretching the bounds of what can be labeled as an innovation, it is worth mentioning. While maps like (Wiki)Python, (Wiki)Enter the Dragon and (Wiki)Tears of the Moon all have names reflecting their layout, this too was something Blizzard implemented a lot earlier with maps like (Wiki)Desert Bloom, (Wiki)Baby Steps and the oh so humble map (Wiki)Blizzard.

Though to be honest, this was a concept that they used neatly in WarCraft II.
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While this innovation only led to maps being more pleasing to the eye, it at least made maps more pleasing to the eye…!


Overlook


Let me sidetrack slightly here by talking briefly about a map not made by Blizzard. (Wiki)Valley Of Wind.
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Valley Of Wind is a strange map. While the layout makes it a semi-island map, there is something that sets it aside from all other maps: It’s possible to cliff your opponent’s natural by just walking there up a ramp that’s inside your main.

Let me rephrase that. It sets it aside from all other maps with one exception. (Wiki)Overlook.

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Overlook is arguable one of the most innovative maps released with Brood War. It’s a three-player map where each player has the ability to safely harass one of the two opponents’ natural, while being exposed to harassment from the other one.

The uniqueness of this type of layout is sometimes credited to Valley Of Wind while Overlook, that was released years before it, is overlooked, if you excuse the pun.


Money Maps


While many players, including myself, don’t really like money maps, it’s hard to argue that they aren’t popular. Arguably the most famous of all money maps is (Wiki)Big Game Hunters, possibly challenged by Fastest.

To this day money maps are vastly popular and it all started with BGH.
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Though technically Gold Rush from WarCraft II is older.
+ Show Spoiler [Gold Rush] +
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UMS maps for “regular” play


Back when I first started playing StarCraft online, circa 2000, I was very reluctant to play standard games since I would be crushed by pretty much everyone. My solution was to play an UMS game called Hydra Rancher. I wasn’t very good at that either but at least I wasn’t completely demolished every game. But I digress.

UMS maps have been around in StarCraft since the beginning and fans have made their own UMS maps too. However, what Blizzard did was to create UMS maps that played out like regular maps but with a twist.

Enter: (Wiki)Warp Gates and (Wiki)Black Hole.

Warp Gates is a map that was, together with its two successors Warp Gates 2 and Evolution Warp Gates 2, in professional leagues between 2000 and 2004, though not on Use Map Settings.

You see, if played on Use Map Settings, Warp Gates turns into a 2v2 map where players can teleport units from their own base into the base of their ally or onto a high ground expansion.

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Despite not showing on the map here, there are two teleporters in each main.


As for the map Black Hole, Blizzard decided to add a huge hole at the center of the map that destroyed any air-borne unit that strayed too close.

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While neither of these innovations were ever used in professional leagues, it still provides an interesting change to the casual gamer. Call it a silly idea, call it a fun little curiosity, it still was innovative.


In conclusion

This text is getting way too long so it’s time to sum it all up. Blizzard have made a ridiculous amount of StarCraft maps and the ones I have pointed out above are far from the only ones that have been original or interesting.

For example, I haven’t mentioned (Wiki)The Lost Temple nor (Wiki)Blood Bath. I haven’t said anything about the strangeness of maps such as (Wiki)Crystallis and (Wiki)Labyrinth. Nor have I written about (Wiki)Battle Lines’s resemblance to (Wiki)Geometry or (Wiki)Twisted Fate’s elegant design.

I haven’t even talked about how (Wiki)Ashrigo, (Wiki)Molten Playground, (Wiki)Predators, (Wiki)Showdown, (Wiki)Slow Burn, (Wiki)Snowbound and (Wiki)Turnaround all are maps (or have maps based upon them) that were played on in leagues and have thus had an impact on the history of progaming.

No, there is a lot more to say about the maps of Blizzard than what is covered in this article. For now, I can just say that I am interested in seeing what maps Blizzard will produce for StarCraft II and what innovations they will bring forth.

/Slugbreath
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
March 10 2010 10:45 GMT
#2
wow beautiful read.

I hope maps for sc2 evolve just as nice as it did in sc1
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
March 10 2010 10:48 GMT
#3
Maps certainly play a big role why Starcraft turned out to be so Awesome.
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Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
March 10 2010 10:51 GMT
#4
Awesome article on an interesting topic. GJ!
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PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
March 10 2010 10:58 GMT
#5
good writeup although i think there was also a crazy critters style map for warcraft 2
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Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 10 2010 11:09 GMT
#6
Hey, fun read, I remember playing most of those maps =)
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
March 10 2010 11:13 GMT
#7
You're the map-man
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kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1408 Posts
March 10 2010 11:14 GMT
#8
nice read : )
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
March 10 2010 11:42 GMT
#9
So much cool history in here
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#10
Valley of the Wind looks really nice.
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TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
March 10 2010 12:36 GMT
#11
Very nicely put together, was a great read... This makes sitting in class rock :D
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Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
March 10 2010 12:42 GMT
#12
The kid talking in the million critter map video annoys the hell out of me.
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
March 10 2010 13:12 GMT
#13
Fun fun read. I want to try some of these now.
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
March 10 2010 14:09 GMT
#14
nice article, good quality post for someone new to the site. don't quite agree with you though since it's not just the utilization of individual features that makes a map high quality but the incorporating of these features with an understanding of the strengths and weakeness of each race in every matchup to create compelling competitive play. so just cuz blizzard came up with a certain gimmick doesn't mean their maps were good.
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LLXC
Profile Joined September 2009
United States125 Posts
March 10 2010 14:13 GMT
#15
OMG, I saw the Warcraft map and now I want to play Warcraft 1 and 2.
Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-10 14:44:25
March 10 2010 14:44 GMT
#16
Very interesting read. I definitely want to play some games on Valley of Wind.

And yeah, this definitely also makes me want to play WC2.
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WaveMotion
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States147 Posts
March 10 2010 14:44 GMT
#17
ah that blackhole one is cool. im going to make environmental maps in SC2. like units lose health once they enter a sandstorm or what have you. its going to be boss.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 10 2010 14:45 GMT
#18
cool read
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 10 2010 15:02 GMT
#19
When I think of innovations in map making, I think of backwards ramps, null terrain, neutral darktemplar/mines, neutral creep colonies, neutral buildings, specially placed gas geysers etc...

Except for mineral wall, none of these seem like innovations. If you told me Blizzard invented mineral wall I'd have thought of crystalis and said 'eehh.. not really.' So you get points for that, I guess.

I kind of agree with d_so's point too. Back in 1998-2000 everyone used the dumbest combinations of units, and probably every combination of units possible in StarCraft. That shouldn't degrade how innovative it is for someone to do a weird combination in progaming and make it actually viable. Like when you hear D players saying 'hey I do that ! that's my build!' and they're clearly not utilizing it the same way.

So I don't agree with you (as someone who mapped quite a long time), but I think you did a good job putting it together
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
March 10 2010 15:09 GMT
#20
Am I a nerd if I can recognise most of the maps?

As an avid map fan, this is a beautiful read that should be headlined. Probably even TLFE'd, if I may suggest.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-10 15:37:55
March 10 2010 15:37 GMT
#21
On March 11 2010 00:09 konadora wrote:
Am I a nerd if I can recognise most of the maps?


Naw, dedicated RTS fan.

Gosh those old Sc maps brought nostalgia...
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
March 10 2010 15:45 GMT
#22
I honestly never knew. What an interesting read, Thank you.
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
March 10 2010 15:54 GMT
#23
That was actually a very nice read. Casual, but interesting... Beautiful!
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JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
March 10 2010 16:02 GMT
#24
Awesome article.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
March 10 2010 16:37 GMT
#25
You forgot Gauntlet, they basically copied it, with a few changes, on the desert tileset due to the wider bridges, and it was used in the pro scene for a bit.

You missed the map (5)Diablo..... It's actually a really fun map for 2v2, although the centre is poorly designed.

I can list a few more you missed. And I've only been into the SC scene for about a year :S (technically, I've had the game since it was out, but I wasn't really into it)

Blizzard really did do a lot with their maps. Although, I don't know how much innovation they can have in SC2 - a lot has already been done with the original, and in many respects, the games are similar. Although, maybe some of the concepts which were flops in the original could be amazing in SC2. We'll have to wait and see.
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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
March 10 2010 16:49 GMT
#26
if you talk about blizzard and evolution of map making you cant skip wc3 ...

even without dota there are hundreds of amazing custom maps and i guess im not the only one who had more fun with wc3 custom maps than with the real game. with the sc2 editor being even more powerful, i can see the same happening to me for sc2.
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
March 10 2010 16:54 GMT
#27
[TLFE] for sure!
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
March 10 2010 17:12 GMT
#28
what a great write-up. ah, challenger brought back humble memories of my first game of starcraft ever, where i learned, versus a computer, of the homosexuality that is 16 speedlots.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
March 10 2010 17:48 GMT
#29
Thanks for the great read
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Profile Blog Joined September 2009
67 Posts
March 10 2010 18:52 GMT
#30
blood bath is so damn entertaining (despite the fact it turns into a TvT fest on high level of play lol)

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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 10 2010 20:58 GMT
#31
Beautiful read, thank you
zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
March 10 2010 21:24 GMT
#32
On March 10 2010 19:58 PobTheCad wrote:
good writeup although i think there was also a crazy critters style map for warcraft 2


MUTTON.PUD
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Profile Joined December 2008
Canada14 Posts
March 10 2010 21:39 GMT
#33
Good read. Shows how far maps have really come. and gunna be honest alot more balanced for most part
Chillz
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada100 Posts
March 11 2010 00:56 GMT
#34
On March 11 2010 06:24 zeppelin wrote:
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On March 10 2010 19:58 PobTheCad wrote:
good writeup although i think there was also a crazy critters style map for warcraft 2


MUTTON.PUD


lmao ... awesome!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 11 2010 03:39 GMT
#35
Wow great read, never knew that Lost Temple was a map made by Blizzard. Makes sense that it's in sc2.

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Off topic but does anyone know if Blizzard could remake sc:bw maps for sc2 if they weren't the ones who created them? I'm guessing yes since it's their game but just wondering.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 11 2010 03:53 GMT
#36
nice read, thanks for putting this together
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9108 Posts
March 11 2010 03:55 GMT
#37
I've played a few of those maps but a lot of them like black hole I haven't ever heard of. Interesting.

Was just actually playing some 3 man FFAs on Overlook a few weeks ago. Even though 3 man ffas are the worst.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
March 11 2010 03:55 GMT
#38
On March 11 2010 06:24 zeppelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 19:58 PobTheCad wrote:
good writeup although i think there was also a crazy critters style map for warcraft 2


MUTTON.PUD

Seriously. My friends and I had a Mutton tourney in high school. Turns out Mutton is imbalanced since one of the starting positions doesn't have an area full of critters so you can place your first building easily.
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PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 08:28:39
March 11 2010 08:28 GMT
#39
On March 11 2010 12:55 Chill wrote:

Seriously. My friends and I had a Mutton tourney in high school. Turns out Mutton is imbalanced since one of the starting positions doesn't have an area full of critters so you can place your first building easily.

at least mutton gives you something to do whilst you wait 5 mins for your first hall to build
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Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
March 11 2010 08:41 GMT
#40
This was an excellent read.
Someone better make this a FE for sure.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5389 Posts
March 11 2010 08:59 GMT
#41
About 'Map depicting something'
Don't forget about (5)Diablo.scm =)
Good read.
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CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
March 11 2010 09:24 GMT
#42
rivalry is basically nostalgia rebalanced if you are looking for things to edit in.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
March 11 2010 09:36 GMT
#43
Great read!
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Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 09:54:27
March 11 2010 09:52 GMT
#44
On March 11 2010 06:24 zeppelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 19:58 PobTheCad wrote:
good writeup although i think there was also a crazy critters style map for warcraft 2


MUTTON.PUD

haha I couldn't remember what this one was called. I was trying all sorts of crappy google searches like map "warcraft 2" sheep -explode -clicking -"warcraft 3". In this case I'm glad you beat me to it since I wasn't coming up with it D: Google is seriously failing if no combo of war2, sheep and map leads to mutton.pud

http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/war2/puds/MUTTON.PUD <- the map. Filename is all caps 'cause the map's like that
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
March 11 2010 10:20 GMT
#45
Great read and history lesson. You have a really impressive knowledge of Starcraft maps--thanks for sharing!
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ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 12:24:00
March 11 2010 12:23 GMT
#46
I've saw the one of my first games on BW happened ^_^

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Can anyone tell me how's it called ^_^?
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 12:42:53
March 11 2010 12:29 GMT
#47
^ Boxer vs Blind Guy on Challenger
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
March 11 2010 12:36 GMT
#48
On March 11 2010 21:23 ProoM wrote:
I've saw the one of my first games on BW happened ^_^

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[image loading]

Can anyone tell me how's it called ^_^?


challenger! i remember this map, one of the first games i ever played.
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bongjwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States199 Posts
March 11 2010 12:38 GMT
#49
sick read i really enjoyed
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FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
March 12 2010 11:19 GMT
#50
I personally thought the creation of StarEdit itself was the real innovation (absolutely nothing like it from other companies), but awesome read anyway.
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LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
March 12 2010 11:35 GMT
#51
I seldom read the articles..i find them too long and really of little interest. But your write up is fresh and creative. 5/5 article. and thank you to make me a jump in the past
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daarkside
Profile Joined July 2005
Germany56 Posts
March 12 2010 22:51 GMT
#52
hey slug is there a chance that u continue ur map history soon?
i enjoyed reading VERY MUCH, many many sweet memories

and could u cover actived played maps, like ladder maps a little more, dire straits and so on
pioneer8
Profile Joined January 2010
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-13 01:03:51
March 13 2010 01:02 GMT
#53
A nice article. If only you could get more people to play fun or creative maps that are out of regular usage... (anything besides BGH, Fastest or a few Korean maps, ie Python, Desti)

Hell, its hard enough at times to even find someone that will play vs random... >.>



People in general are pretty herd like though, online or offline, so im not surprised.
ReiKo
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Croatia1023 Posts
March 13 2010 11:24 GMT
#54
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Caos2
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United States1728 Posts
March 13 2010 12:36 GMT
#55
Thanks for the article.
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
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Last Edited: 2010-03-13 12:55:12
March 13 2010 12:54 GMT
#56
the trex/skull wc2 maps look massive, something i've always thought would be cool in scbw is if really big maps were available, like 4x the size of the max you can get now. hopefully that's possible in sc2 because i think you could create maps with some really unique map control situations with more space to work with. it'd be great if a bigger unit cap could be edited in too
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
March 13 2010 13:22 GMT
#57
This thread made me want to play Rush, by Tuxedo Templar. (God if anyone hasn't, go do so now)
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 13 2010 13:24 GMT
#58
My first ladder game was on challenger. It was against some 8 year old kid. He's probably like 22 now
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-13 13:45:07
March 13 2010 13:44 GMT
#59
Next can we look at them as pioneers of rapping.

On topic; Challenger was the first SC map I played I love it.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
March 13 2010 15:14 GMT
#60
awesome history lesson. thanks for your time and input.
flamewheel
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 13 2010 17:29 GMT
#61
Beautiful.
Thanks for this!
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