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Machinehead rep pack: tvz and pvt.

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machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 23:42:13
January 07 2010 23:39 GMT
#1
I offered to coach yesterday if any were interested and could help me avoid the hassle of putting money onto full tilt's site; people suggested that I make a rep pack to go along with ranks and accomplishments, so I played some games on iccup yesterday and today: [url blocked] Account: this

A couple of days ago I started using a new strat in pvp and pvt, but I still have kinks to iron out in them, but there is a lot of room for error in pvt versus most people - so it's good enough. In the next couple of days I will further iron out things and probably have a pvp rep pack. I can help people in tvp and play it well, but I don't enjoy playing it, nor do I have tvp reps on my comp (deleted 99% of my reps a month ago). But, if any are interested in tvp help and would like to see some reps, I can also make a tvp rep pack.

Analyzing losses: there was a pvt game where I got 8 raxed -- I fended it off -- and the game was over in my mind, so all I could think about is why is he wasting my time, but while I was mentally done with the game, he floated his rax's in my base and I gave him a win. A couple of games later someone tried the same thing, and I played the game out instead of moping = win.

There was 1 TVZ loss -- the pivotal moment in the game was when I thought I could suicide 3 marines and it wouldn't be a big deal, but while I did that, he sent an overlord into my base and I only had 1 rine in my base so I couldn't kill it before it scouted my starport; it completely changed the outcome of the game, as he diverted from his plans to go mutas and went scourges into a hydra transition as he expected a wraith or a drop ship. I went from having the counter to his bo, to wasting money on turrets and being set behind eco wise. Good play from him I thought, to boot.

When it comes to helping someone, it's not a matter of if you are gosu, but rather if you are better than them. If there are any players below b- (figure b- players are on the right track already) looking to improve and understand why you are losing games, and what you could have done better -- if you would like me to help you, just pm me sometime.

I can help in tvz, tvp, pvt and very recently I have switched to pvp (B level). There is no shortcut to getting a rank that is perceived as "high," ie., you still need to have good macro/micro, but good strategy and understanding of the game can at least bump you up a rank or two.





Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
January 07 2010 23:56 GMT
#2
I watched 7 of them. You all in or do strange bo's every game. Posting a rep pack of you cheesing newbies on Python doesn't prove anything...

heres what you do. Go get B+. Make Rep pack. Play standard every game. Come back here. Post it.

But don't ask people to pay you for lessons when this is the only evidence of "skill" you're going to provide.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
January 07 2010 23:59 GMT
#3
how about posting your whole TSL replay pack or posting us B+ games
pew pew
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 00:04:32
January 08 2010 00:00 GMT
#4
playa loses to G5's offrace, I will forever be disappoint. top 16 usa should not lose to other top 16 offrace imo.

at least now I know how to counter that faggy fast DT into fast recall gayness teehee... :D
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 00:01:40
January 08 2010 00:01 GMT
#5
Surprised Nazgul hasn't organized any sort of approved TL bw coaches with TL getting a % of all payments.
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 01:09:24
January 08 2010 01:08 GMT
#6
Lol, G5 used to be a terran player. Good players can compete with other top players and even beat them with their offrace, especially when they already play the opposite side of the mu. It's hardly a big deal. It's not like you forget how to macro/micro, and at this stage in the game most people know most mu's well.

I posted a standard game versus mondragon yesterday (is on a site due to being a wgt game). I used to play standard every game and every matchup but pvt. Calling me cheesy means you are lacking an understanding of the game. The premise of my bo's is to not lose to either side of the spectrum of play: fastest rush possible or fastest expo bo's. I haven't bunker rushed anyone. I haven't double gated anyone. People call anything cheese these days.
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 01:16:11
January 08 2010 01:15 GMT
#7
That's why 5 vultures killed you on heartbreak ridge? lol :\
Edit: I forgot you weren't takin me seriously, my bad.
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 08 2010 01:17 GMT
#8
I think the point people are making is that if you are offering training services, they would like to see a wide range of games that show your ability to manage a game...so that you can pass on that knowledge. If "people call anything cheese these days" then maybe you are in fact out of touch with the current nature of high level play as was suggested.

I think you would shut everyone up if you just played iccup for a season, hit B+ and posted the whole rep pack. Posting 1 game vs mondi doesn't say anything.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 08 2010 01:27 GMT
#9
this machinehead guy is really funny
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
January 08 2010 01:33 GMT
#10
I don't think calling

gate in nat zeal rush on python into forge + dt

"cheese" is really going too far at all.

Even if the replay pack was you destroying B-teamers, the way you're doing it wouldnt prove that you were capable of helping anyone get better.

My. Copy. Is. Here.
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 01:35:55
January 08 2010 01:34 GMT
#11
A terran that was A last season that I got the privilege to cheese during tsl.... http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=28362

When you're aiming to teach d--c+ players, I didn't realize you needed to prove you could beat Flash, Bisu and Jaedong. Not only that, but you need to prove you can beat them using 1 particular strategy. Like I wouldn't even charge a lot... you guys are crazy.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 08 2010 01:38 GMT
#12
are you real?
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
January 08 2010 01:40 GMT
#13
WoW these games are really amazing... what are your rates???
Entusman #12
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 08 2010 01:42 GMT
#14
Nobody ever said about beating top gamers.

They all just suggested that showing strong mechanics (which most people would like to improve) would help persuade prospective trainees to buy your services.

To put into extremely exaggerated terms like your own, a D- beating a A who went 14 cc with 4 pool doesn't show the D-'s skill level, or strong mechanics; he just cheesed the fuck out of the A.
Hey! Listen!
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
January 08 2010 01:42 GMT
#15
But. I. Don't. Want. To. Watch. You. Cheese. People.

You. Don't. Need. To. Beat. Jaedong.

Fuck, raping a C+ (or thereabouts) Terran like me straight up would be enough.

And for the last time, noone cares if you can beat an A terran with cheese. You must be so out of touch with the modern game to think that cheesing somebody equates to skill on your part.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
January 08 2010 01:43 GMT
#16
You need to prove that you have a very good knowledge of the fundamentals and standard play to teach anyone any game. Posting non-standard games does nothing to prove your knowledge of the game. When people are starting to learn something it is absolutely critical that they learn solid fundamentals before anything else. So if you want to establish a reputation for being a good teacher then you need to post proof of your knowledge of the fundamentals and standard play.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
January 08 2010 01:53 GMT
#17
Me cheesing jf in 2006 with a variation of the flash bo... [url blocked]

littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
January 08 2010 01:56 GMT
#18
WoW that game is really amazing... what are your rates???
Entusman #12
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 08 2010 01:56 GMT
#19
LOL this guy cannot be real
what the fuck hahahah
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 02:55:10
January 08 2010 01:59 GMT
#20
On January 08 2010 08:39 machinehead.. wrote:
I offered to coach yesterday if any were interested and could help me avoid the hassle of putting money onto full tilt's site; people suggested that I make a rep pack to go along with ranks and accomplishments, so I played some games on iccup yesterday and today: [url blocked] Account: this

A couple of days ago I started using a new strat in pvp and pvt, but I still have kinks to iron out in them, but there is a lot of room for error in pvt versus most people - so it's good enough. In the next couple of days I will further iron out things and probably have a pvp rep pack. I can help people in tvp and play it well, but I don't enjoy playing it, nor do I have tvp reps on my comp (deleted 99% of my reps a month ago). But, if any are interested in tvp help and would like to see some reps, I can also make a tvp rep pack.

Analyzing losses: there was a pvt game where I got 8 raxed -- I fended it off -- and the game was over in my mind, so all I could think about is why is he wasting my time, but while I was mentally done with the game, he floated his rax's in my base and I gave him a win. A couple of games later someone tried the same thing, and I played the game out instead of moping = win.

There was 1 TVZ loss -- the pivotal moment in the game was when I thought I could suicide 3 marines and it wouldn't be a big deal, but while I did that, he sent an overlord into my base and I only had 1 rine in my base so I couldn't kill it before it scouted my starport; it completely changed the outcome of the game, as he diverted from his plans to go mutas and went scourges into a hydra transition as he expected a wraith or a drop ship. I went from having the counter to his bo, to wasting money on turrets and being set behind eco wise. Good play from him I thought, to boot.

When it comes to helping someone, it's not a matter of if you are gosu, but rather if you are better than them. If there are any players below b- (figure b- players are on the right track already) looking to improve and understand why you are losing games, and what you could have done better -- if you would like me to help you, just pm me sometime.

I can help in tvz, tvp, pvt and very recently I have switched to pvp (B level). There is no shortcut to getting a rank that is perceived as "high," ie., you still need to have good macro/micro, but good strategy and understanding of the game can at least bump you up a rank or two.








Hey thanks for the replays!

I can never have enough :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gl with your teaching although it doesnt seem like you will find many pupils here :/
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