Nice changes.

I guess now the emphasis should be on players that play a lot and win games, so team with 3 stars and 3 players for 0 will kick ass. Picking the right team isn't going to be all that important as the amount of points for wins has been lowered, so it's a lot more efficient to choose better players.

We will see how my thought play out in reality ;P.

Musoeun

United States4324 Posts

December 01 2009 13:28 GMT

#147

On December 01 2009 12:57 Hot_Bid wrote:

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This is a good point, I talked it over with Abydos and we have adjusted the scoring so that Ace Loss = 0 (instead of -2).

Aces from strong teams are the aces on the strong teams because they're really good players. Removing penalties for ace losses doesn't make them less safe picks. There's nothing you can do to make the really good players not be "safe" picks and still make the system reasonable.

This change just artificially inflates the value of "bad" ace players. Sure, the guy's playing ace, that's got to count for something - but it's an automatic +2 with no penalty for losing. Obviously he doesn't get the points for winning, but that's it. In this regard the old scoring's +2 -1 was much more reasonable.

We've got a 6 point difference between the winner and loser of a game. The ace game difference is now only 4 points. (Old system: 3 point difference for a regular game, 3 points for an ace game.) Why not just go with -1 for an ace game loss still? It seems a little more "fair" to me.

Side note: I feel that overall this new scoring system is going to create an even bigger spread between lucky good and unlucky bad teams and make sticking with the competition much much harder after a bad week. While I understand the rationale behind the changes, I don't like it completely. Trading is too limited to fully adjust for things like good players stuck in set fours (you're hoping they get to play) and other lineup quirks that before were compensated by the lineup points.

Further edit: What I'm getting at is twofold. First, the ideal "dead weight" player has changed from the bad player who is playing (he might win) to the bad player who's not playing (because if he is he might lose). Obviously you don't want any dead weight on your team, but sometimes you have to pick up those 1-pointers.

Second, the middle-of-the-road players now become hugely hit or miss, not to say luck-based. Basically the only option for these guys is to pick the pretty good ones on good teams, and hope. (Partly I'm irritated by the changes because I made by living on these players and now they're huge risks.) The best teams overall - I'm calling it now - are going to have one or two big name players, the team that wins the round, and a bunch of guys who barely play on a good team. Which is lame. Sure, somebody's going to get it right with the 3-5 pointers and run away with the win, but overall meh.

Pergamon

Sweden100 Posts

December 01 2009 13:28 GMT

#148

Upgrayedd

Main Team
8 (Z)

Effort (captain)
7 (T)

Fantasy
1

Hogil
3

Hyuk
5

Kal
3

Movie
3 Hite Sparkyz

Anti Team
3 (P)

Anytime
5

Mind
5

Roro

TanGeng

Sanya12364 Posts

December 01 2009 13:29 GMT

#149

Your player's team wins??? Worth 1 point? Whoa.

grobo

Japan6199 Posts

December 01 2009 13:30 GMT

#150

pimpfists

Main Team
4 (P)

Best
8

Jaedong (captain)
2 (Z)

Peace
5

Roro
4

Ruby
3

UpMagic
4 WeMade FOX

Anti Team
4 (Z)

Shine
4

Skyhigh
5

Stork

edit: player change #1

Fantasy proleague is so damn fun, i just spent the entire afternoon carefully picking my team.
I was contemplating switching Jaedong for another "1 point less"-player and then add another stronger player, but i couldn't do it because Fantasy becomes 10x more fun when you have your favorite player in the team as well.