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dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
December 01 2009 09:45 GMT
#121
On December 01 2009 08:59 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 06:59 pripple wrote:
something just came to my mind, let's say JD & Bisu both cost 10 points at start, both play 2 games in the opening week, JD going 2-0 and Bisu going 0-2, with the new scoring system the points difference is gonna be enormous= 8 | -4 (not counting teampoints here)..

so now if you pick a player who has a bad start you're gonna be even more stuck with him, making comebacks even harder? as that -4 for Bisu is gonna lower his tradevalue shitloads?

We realized that this would happen, so what we're going to do is weight it slightly in favor of the previous week's value, so the Trade Values should deviate slightly less than last round.

1. New Scoring (Round 2)
10 pointer going 2-0: New TV = 9.96
10 pointer going 0-2: New TV = 8.32

2. Old Scoring (Round 1)
10 pointer going 2-0: New TV = 9.94
10 pointer going 0-2: New TV = 8.18

3. New Scoring (Round 2) Without Weighting Adjustment
10 pointer going 2-0: New TV = 9.94
10 pointer going 0-2: New TV = 7.48

edit: FYI, we're going with #1, not #3


can i get the formula you are using? or is that top secret?
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
slOwdance
Profile Joined April 2009
United States26 Posts
December 01 2009 09:46 GMT
#122
Midnight in Dostoevsky

Main Team
4 (P)Best
3 (T)Firebathero
10 (T)Flash (captain)
2 (P)Flying
4 (T)Skyhigh
3 (Z)Yarnc
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
3 (P)Han
5 (P)Kal
5 (P)Stork


I just realized anti-team is all protoss. Lol.
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
December 01 2009 09:48 GMT
#123
On December 01 2009 10:10 Abydos1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 09:42 integral wrote:
hotbid can you post that formula?


A player's trade value is going to be 2/3 * tv + 1/3 * last weeks tv
Where its using unweighted tvs in the calculation

IE. in HotBid's example a 10 cost player going 2-0 (with 2 team wins) in week 1 will have 10 pts and 9.94 tv

So 2/3 * 9.94 + 1/3 * 10 (cost) = 9.96

A 10 Cost player going 0-2 (with 0 team wins) in week 1 will have -4 pts and 7.48 tv

So 2/3 * 7.48 + 1/3 * 10 (cost) = 8.32


how did u calculate the 9.94 TV and 7.48 TVs?
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
December 01 2009 09:50 GMT
#124
ugly fuglies

Main Team
2 (P)Flying
2 (T)Go.go
3 (Z)Great
8 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
4 (T)Light
6 (T)Really
5 MBCGame Hero

Anti Team
2 (T)Classic
6 (T)Leta
5 (T)Mind
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 01 2009 10:04 GMT
#125
I like the new scoring system. I think it emphasizes better in what's most important, which is winning, not just showing up. Nice job!
wifebeater
Profile Joined January 2008
178 Posts
December 01 2009 10:32 GMT
#126
fisT Of fuRy

Main Team
1 (T)Baby
10 (T)Flash (captain)
2 (P)Flying
8 (Z)Jaedong
0 (P)Reach
5 (P)Stork
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
6 (P)Free
3 (P)Han
4 (Z)Shine
Villain Terran~~~~~~~~~~
losso
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Bulgaria158 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 10:41:18
December 01 2009 10:36 GMT
#127
daaaamn all the players i got last season got their points raised so now i can't get a decent team
no matter how much they cost i would get flash, violet, movie & kt as a team
that left me with 3 points for the remaining 3 players -_-;;

KT ROLLERCOASTER + MOVIE

Main Team
1 (T)Barracks
10 (T)Flash (captain)
1 (Z)Just
3 (P)Movie
1 (T)Sair
7 (P)Violet
7 KT Rolster

Anti Team
3 (T)Firebathero
6 (P)Free
4 (Z)Shine

it would be so good if i could get 815, stats and hoejja instead of these 1-pointers who'll never play

On December 01 2009 19:32 wifebeater wrote:
fisT Of fuRy

Main Team
1 (T)Baby
10 (T)Flash (captain)
2 (P)Flying
8 (Z)Jaedong
0 (P)Reach
5 (P)Stork
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
6 (P)Free
3 (P)Han
4 (Z)Shine


it's weird you got Stars as your team and Free in your Anti-Team lol
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6170 Posts
December 01 2009 10:51 GMT
#128
Currently this but willl probably change 20 time until dead line

Team D-

Main Team
8 (P)Bisu
8 (Z)Effort (captain)
2 (Z)Hoejja
6 (T)Leta
3 (P)Movie
1 (T)MVP
2 Samsung KHAN

Anti Team
4 (P)Best
5 (P)Kal
4 (T)Ruby
n_n
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
December 01 2009 11:03 GMT
#129
Why the fuck is Idra 1 worth a point while GoRush isn't? o.O
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
myfriendPlank
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States550 Posts
December 01 2009 11:09 GMT
#130
Ballers

Main Team
2 (T)Go.go
3 (T)Hwasin
6 (T)Leta (captain)
9 (T)Sea
5 (P)Stork
2 (Z)Type-B
3 Hite Sparkyz

Anti Team
4 (T)Light
6 (Z)Luxury
3 (T)UpMagic
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 01 2009 11:11 GMT
#131
High Risk

Main Team
8 (Z)Effort
3 (T)Hwasin
8 (Z)Jaedong
3 (P)Movie
4 (Z)Shine
0 (T)Xellos (captain)
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
6 (T)Leta
4 (T)Ruby
3 (P)SangHo

I'll probably change something after i see the line up
BW is back
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
December 01 2009 11:12 GMT
#132
Will there be new maps for R2?
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6170 Posts
December 01 2009 11:20 GMT
#133
I wanna try something stupid but let's hope it turn out good :D... probably not

Team D-

Main Team
8 (P)Bisu
0 (P)Brave
8 (Z)Effort (captain)
10 (T)Flash
0 (Z)Odin
0 (T)Turn
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
5 (P)Kal
4 (T)Ruby
4 (T)Skyhigh
n_n
Monzterg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden257 Posts
December 01 2009 11:30 GMT
#134
PRIME

Main Team
7 (T)Fantasy
2 (Z)Hero
1 (Z)Hogil
4 (T)Light
3 (P)Movie
9 (Z)Zero (captain)
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
6 (T)Leta
2 (T)Lomo
5 (Z)Roro
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 11:35:14
December 01 2009 11:34 GMT
#135
On December 01 2009 20:03 Mooncat wrote:
Why the fuck is Idra 1 worth a point while GoRush isn't? o.O

cos gorush loses most of his games, like most people on ace

sentret

Main Team
3 (T)Firebathero
1 (Z)Hogil
8 (Z)Jaedong
6 (T)Leta
2 (Z)Type-B (captain)
7 (P)Violet
3 Hite Sparkyz

Anti Team
2 (T)CuteAngel
2 (P)Pusan
9 (Z)Zero
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 11:52:53
December 01 2009 11:47 GMT
#136
On December 01 2009 10:10 Abydos1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 09:42 integral wrote:
hotbid can you post that formula?


A player's trade value is going to be 2/3 * tv + 1/3 * last weeks tv
Where its using unweighted tvs in the calculation

IE. in HotBid's example a 10 cost player going 2-0 (with 2 team wins) in week 1 will have 10 pts and 9.94 tv

So 2/3 * 9.94 + 1/3 * 10 (cost) = 9.96

A 10 Cost player going 0-2 (with 0 team wins) in week 1 will have -4 pts and 7.48 tv

So 2/3 * 7.48 + 1/3 * 10 (cost) = 8.32


So the "expected point gain of a 1 pointer" constant is still the same even though the scoring is different? Won't the average point gain of players be significantly lower than last time due to the new negative points for losses and no points for lineup appearances? Previously in any given head-to-head game the overall point gain per player per game would be 2. (2 points for the victory, 2 for the lineup appearances, -1 for the loss, +1 for the team win = 4, divided by 2 players = 2). Now the overall point gain per game is 1.5 -- 4 points for victory, -2 for defeat, 1 for team win. Without a corresponding change in the constant, player scores and thus prices on average will adjust downward. Except for players that play in ace matches, that is -- maximum point gain on a night for an ace player is now 11 instead of 8.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 01 2009 11:55 GMT
#137
this new system makes trading VERY important and making the anti team too hard

but i like it
BW is back
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 12:01:53
December 01 2009 11:59 GMT
#138
I'm bad at FPL, and I don't want to engage in it too deeply, because it would just take up too much time -knowing myself-, so this season I just made a team out of my favourite players, and an anti-team out of players i dislike, and I'll found the "no trading" group right away.
We shall see.

Mighty Wombats

Main Team
5 (P)Kal (captain)
5 (P)Stork
3 (Z)Killer
3 (T)UpMagic
2 (P)BackHo
0 (P)Reach

5 STX Soul

Anti Team
8 (Z)Effort
6 (Z)Luxury
3 (Z)Kwanro
BW fighting!
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
December 01 2009 12:13 GMT
#139
damn. Flash + KT is very expensive. heres mine so far:

Flash + others

Main Team
10 (T)Flash (captain)
5 (T)Mind
3 (P)Movie
2 (P)Stats
3 (Z)Yarnc
0 (Z)Yellow
7 KT Rolster

Anti Team
5 (Z)Roro
4 (T)Ruby
4 (Z)Shine
Woo Jung Ho
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 01 2009 12:18 GMT
#140
Team Rocket

Main Team
8 (P)Bisu (captain)
3 (Z)Hyuk
3 (Z)Hyvaa
1 (T)Idra
6 (Z)Luxury
2 (Z)Type-B
7 KT Rolster

Anti Team
4 (P)Best
4 (T)Ruby
5 (P)Stork

Idra! yeah! I dunno why he's available as a pick, but why not!
Stork is actually my favourite protoss of all time, and if he wins anything I'll be really happy, but I'm hoping that he'll play WoW instead of sc this round.
Best is fucking bad, I dunno why he wins.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
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