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Cowazon
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada58 Posts
November 27 2009 05:51 GMT
#21
Wow...that's pretty impressive. I wonder if there's any way to make them not lose speed while turning and keep them moving at top speed...then they would really be pretty unstoppable.

Mad props to the TL AI Team!
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 05:53:00
November 27 2009 05:52 GMT
#22
this belongs on fomos...

Ahhh... the computer I'm using doesn't have Korean language support.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 27 2009 05:52 GMT
#23
awesome. Keep the updates coming!
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
November 27 2009 05:54 GMT
#24
This just convinces me further that none of us can even imagine what perfect Starcraft would even look like

That looked really cool
Trucy Wright is hot
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
November 27 2009 05:56 GMT
#25
more proof that with perfect mechanics zerg would be the best race
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
November 27 2009 05:56 GMT
#26
On November 27 2009 14:54 Purind wrote:
This just convinces me further that none of us can even imagine what perfect Starcraft would even look like

That looked really cool



I think it was july who said players would joke that zerg would be the best race if a super computer could play it.
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
November 27 2009 05:58 GMT
#27
On November 27 2009 14:56 lazz wrote:
more proof that with perfect mechanics zerg would be the best race


Actually, wraiths would be better because their range is longer. With wraiths I could get 0 damage taken at all. If anyone wants I can upload the video with wraiths.
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 27 2009 05:58 GMT
#28
On November 27 2009 14:46 TwoStep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 14:36 Count9 wrote:
Not much macro with 35k apm tbh. Not very impressive against auto attacking archons, should try against a human... or make a archon micro and see who wins :/

Do you know what it takes to construct AI like that?

Not impressive to watch, not not impressive to make.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 27 2009 06:01 GMT
#29
On November 27 2009 14:58 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 14:56 lazz wrote:
more proof that with perfect mechanics zerg would be the best race


Actually, wraiths would be better because their range is longer. With wraiths I could get 0 damage taken at all. If anyone wants I can upload the video with wraiths.

uhhhh we sort of want you to upload every single video you can
ModeratorGood content always wins.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 27 2009 06:03 GMT
#30
On November 27 2009 14:58 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 14:56 lazz wrote:
more proof that with perfect mechanics zerg would be the best race


Actually, wraiths would be better because their range is longer. With wraiths I could get 0 damage taken at all. If anyone wants I can upload the video with wraiths.


Hell yeah
Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
November 27 2009 06:03 GMT
#31
Ya thats really awesome!
Like ya, really impressive.
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 06:06:44
November 27 2009 06:04 GMT
#32
Would it be too much to ask how complicated the algorithm was to implement? High level it seems straightforward (switches between getting to minimum distance to attacking closest target), but I'm curious since alot of things turn out more complicated than first thought.

Also I'm curious about the capabilities; is this a "kill everything" alogrithm or can you specify targets? I'm sure this takes less damage than clumping, but is it faster? I think it'd be interesting if you had clumping too had had them battle.


edit: btw great job; wraith vid plz.
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
November 27 2009 06:05 GMT
#33
jaedong wins again!
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wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 06:12:07
November 27 2009 06:06 GMT
#34
Wouldn't you be able to get the Muta micro perfect if you stopped them from moving towards Archons, when the Archons are moving at Max speed? With the chaos of the micro you have it should be able to still be effective.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
November 27 2009 06:08 GMT
#35
On November 27 2009 14:58 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 14:56 lazz wrote:
more proof that with perfect mechanics zerg would be the best race


Actually, wraiths would be better because their range is longer. With wraiths I could get 0 damage taken at all. If anyone wants I can upload the video with wraiths.


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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 27 2009 06:11 GMT
#36
nice work certainly interesting.
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
November 27 2009 06:13 GMT
#37
Sit tight I'm recording the video of 12 wraiths vs 4 control group of hydras.
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 27 2009 06:14 GMT
#38
On November 27 2009 15:13 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Sit tight I'm recording the video of 12 wraiths vs 4 control group of hydras.

hahahahaha oh wow
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conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
November 27 2009 06:16 GMT
#39
hahah WHAT?
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
November 27 2009 06:17 GMT
#40
On November 27 2009 15:14 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 15:13 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Sit tight I'm recording the video of 12 wraiths vs 4 control group of hydras.

hahahahaha oh wow

that was fast.. awesome job TL AI Team!
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