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StuFFofLegenDS
Profile Joined October 2002
United States245 Posts
January 18 2004 10:36 GMT
#61
Probably means ridiculed
And NO sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find...I shall KILL you.
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
January 18 2004 10:42 GMT
#62
Grrrr Elky Fisheye Slayer NTT

Chinese gamers not included. I think this are the four non korean gamers who made the most cash with bw. And thats what counts. Maybe Nazgul earned more than fisheye but no other. Not Sven not saft not anyone i remember so far.

I think i've read something like that.

Grrrr = Around 300000 $
Elky = Around 80000 $
Fisheye = Aroung 25000 $ ( With computer stuff and other prizes included )
Slayer = Around 15000 $ ? He won KBK and of course some other shit
NTT = Wcg 2nd, wasnt he ?


If i would chose the Best non korean gamer ever with skills and dominating and game style, not only with cash my opinion is like that :

Grrrr
Slayer
hasudrone
Fisheye
Pillars
Maynard
Zelias

All gosus Srry i have fergotten many other gamers comparable to the ones on this list

Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
January 18 2004 10:55 GMT
#63
Montaro, Grrrr, BlackMan, Zelias, Slayer, NTT. These players were good in their time. Everyone of them is able to beat korean pro when they were in their time and greatness.

For me NTT who couldn't play eliminations for WCG ( don't remember which year ) was the only one who could do something in Korea. As I remember he was late for the finals in Holland and he couldn't play.

Slayer, he played BoxeR and lost. I think he lost in that match 3-0 not 3-2. Maybe I am wrong. It was so many years ago. It was the last contact with korean players without going to this country. The best player from Europe vs new star from Korea.

Zelias, many tactics, very good player but for me the best person who was writing every minute of the game and what to do. Many players that time was reading his strategies and first timings in the game. This was first apperance of logic and technic way to win in SC.

BlackMan, he was third at WCG ( I know Elky was 2nd year before ). The best zerg player outside Korea that time. It was a very big impact in Poland. The best macro when playing zerg.

Grrrr, the first player who went to Korea and played very well. His reaver drop was incredible. Even today his reaver drop is one of the best in the world. Of course there are many otrher things but this is the most catchable for everyone.

And... Montaro. First terran player who show others that protoss and zerg can be stopped in SC ( not SC:BW ). The same time like Grrrr who was then a rising star. His site and short screen play locking down carriers and using nuclear after lockdown carriers and building 6 or 7 barracks and pomping marines against zerg.

There are more players, but for me they are the most important for SC outside Korea.
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
January 18 2004 10:58 GMT
#64
montaro?????~!?/`/????


intotheclan, if that info is correct....wow
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
January 18 2004 11:01 GMT
#65
Why you people compare someones greatness to money ??!! In that way we can count playing/money. In my opinion people can do more for some games, bussines etc. than earning and counting their power in money.

NTT wasn't 2nd at WCG. He never appeared in Korea.
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
January 18 2004 11:02 GMT
#66
NTT~
Ghost Me
FBS1
Profile Joined April 2003
United Kingdom875 Posts
January 18 2004 11:02 GMT
#67
montaro over maynard

As soon as I read the name montaro i knew somewhere in that post lockdown+carrier was going to be said
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
January 18 2004 11:05 GMT
#68
Slayer NTT Yosh Sven
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
January 18 2004 11:06 GMT
#69
Because at this time it was inasane for most players I am playing from the very begging, but I forgot many things about what happend that years. That is a shame, because it was the best years of playing for me.
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
January 18 2004 11:11 GMT
#70
On January 18 2004 20:01 Inspire wrote:
Why you people compare someones greatness to money ??!! In that way we can count playing/money. In my opinion people can do more for some games, bussines etc. than earning and counting their power in money.

NTT wasn't 2nd at WCG. He never appeared in Korea.


1) If you dont do it by money and by watching replays and vods. It's senseless to discuss, cause then u can name the gamer u liked most and no one cant even say you are wrong. You cant be wrong then. But i think u somehow HAVE TO compare their greatness with winning money everything else doesnt count much. For sure some legendary games, strats, inventors, developers, moves ect.. are all honorable and to get mentioned.

2) I may be wrong but i rember a picture where u could see 3 gamers at wcg. I_LOVE_STAR NTT and someoneelse i dont remember, maybe chobo or sven or i really dont know. But i am pretty sure ntt got 2nd and won 10000$. Maybe it wasnt WCG. Maybe only something like that.
Correct me if i am wrong

@ Bigballs : i dont know if fish earned 15000 or 30000. But he won
quite something :

10000 wcg
400 amd challange
1000 with other tournaments
5000 with Prizes
400 with ebay and letting stupid gamers pay 10$ to get a game vs him.

so around 20000. Maybe more or less.
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
January 18 2004 11:11 GMT
#71
Damn I wrote something wrong... Slayer maybe went to Korea to play BoxeR. Shit someone please correct me if I am wrong in my main post.
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
January 18 2004 11:14 GMT
#72
NTT was the only one who can beat BoxeR that time as I remember. His TvT was very good. Also as I remember many people was waiting for this match up at WCG, but unfortunately NTT didn't go to Korea.
For me the only second player at WCG is Elky.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-01-18 11:20:31
January 18 2004 11:19 GMT
#73
On January 18 2004 20:11 Inspire wrote:
Damn I wrote something wrong... Slayer maybe went to Korea to play BoxeR. Shit someone please correct me if I am wrong in my main post.


Slayer went to korea and played Boxer in the now defunkt Rival Revenge matches. Slayer lost 3-0, I only remeber the last game where boxer owned TvZ on Char.

On a side note, ChRh, then random, gained a lot of fame by beating boxer 3-1 in the same show a little later.

edit: char not chair:o
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
January 18 2004 11:21 GMT
#74
No you are wrong IntoTheClan. You know why ?? I see you as a young person who didn't play the first 2 years of SC. That time noone even think about pro gaming. Noone think, that this game will be played for more than 2 or 3 years. I retired playing in my 3 year of playing for 6 months and I lost everything... Everything has changed and now I am only a shadow of my self, although I was reading all news and what was happening.
Conclusion, you are too young to understand that these years it was a different playing and wasn't counted into money.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
January 18 2004 11:24 GMT
#75
hehe no sc in korea those years
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
January 18 2004 11:24 GMT
#76
Thanks ToKoreaWithLove In my mind now I see the news from broodwar.com. The scenario of these two players with their suits which are normal right now
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
January 18 2004 11:25 GMT
#77
most accomplishments = grrr
most skill = elky
most talent = slayer
1-10-5
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
January 18 2004 11:29 GMT
#78
On January 18 2004 20:21 Inspire wrote:
No you are wrong IntoTheClan. You know why ?? I see you as a young person who didn't play the first 2 years of SC... Conclusion, you are too young to understand that these years it was a different playing and wasn't counted into money.


and you should really get your facts straight.
IntoTheClan
Profile Joined November 2003
Afghanistan207 Posts
January 18 2004 11:29 GMT
#79
I started playing on Kali. Read this post of mine, then you will undertsand me => Grrrr Elky Fisheye Slayer NTT

Chinese gamers not included. I think this are the four non korean gamers who made the most cash with bw. And thats what counts. Maybe Nazgul earned more than fisheye but no other. Not Sven not saft not anyone i remember so far.

I think i've read something like that.

Grrrr = Around 300000 $
Elky = Around 80000 $
Fisheye = Aroung 25000 $ ( With computer stuff and other prizes included )
Slayer = Around 15000 $ ? He won KBK and of course some other shit
NTT = Wcg 2nd, wasnt he ?


If i would chose the Best non korean gamer ever with skills and dominating and game style, not only with cash my opinion is like that :

Grrrr
Slayer
hasudrone
Fisheye
Pillars
Maynard
Zelias

All gosus Srry i have fergotten many other gamers comparable to the ones on this list


Watching out for the best gamer i think U HAVE TO go for cash. For your personal best gamer or the gamer u admired most or you think who owned most u can go by everything u want.

Inspire when did u start ?

U even know Kali ? Did you play FSGS ? I started in 97/98 and no thats nothing to be proud of. But u cant tell shit u dont know. I played at the first two years. I liked Grrrr... and his skill and his development of toss. I hated Boxer because he kinda pulled Grrrr.. aways. But i try to be objective at least. And objective = Rate gamers by success => Success = Cash . And not gosu games or replays.

I hope u understand me now. The gamers i rate the best arent my personal favourites. But its all about objectivity.





Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
January 18 2004 11:29 GMT
#80
ToKoreaWithLove, I remember these matchups between BoxeR and ChRh. ChRh played almost every game with dark drop. BoxeR only won on Jungle Of Story and he defended this drop.
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