EPThopefully good enough ; )
(sven was really good before slayer became really good! )
Best ever non-korean gamer? - Page 11
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
hopefully good enough ; ) (sven was really good before slayer became really good! ) | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On January 18 2004 11:03 luminosity_ wrote: you guys are forgetting "Mouse-only Mr. Shooting Shuttle" Zileas... haha ok, really, i guess it would be k-sharp in counterstrike. He got so good with the AWP fastswitching that valve ended up patching it out it's still in counter-strike. and he's not even the best counter-strike player :O | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On January 18 2004 22:26 aLuMetTe wrote: {SG}Yosh : ] <33 Plus tsu, some fun to watch. Not the best, but they were fun. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
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ApollyoN
United States1297 Posts
On January 21 2004 15:10 IntoTheClan wrote: Slayer never had that much apm. I think smuft is really overrated by some people here. Fisheye is much better than smuft and mainly than any other non korean P. Maybe Saft and Grrrr... and Nazgul are on the same level. But fisheye anyway isnt top 5 non korean gamers. He is around top 10. Smuft isnt even top 10 if u ask me.. I really dont think fisheye deserves to be mentioned with Saft, Grrrr..., Nazgul, OR smuft. You can throw in his last wcg performance, or whatever, but we really dont know what smuft wouldve done, do we? :| Fisheye is very smart about the game, no one can argue that, but i simply dont think he is as good as those players, sorry  | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Sadist
United States7300 Posts
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Dick
United States717 Posts
On January 22 2004 02:13 ApollyoN wrote: I really dont think fisheye deserves to be mentioned with Saft, Grrrr..., Nazgul, OR smuft. You can throw in his last wcg performance, or whatever, but we really dont know what smuft wouldve done, do we? :| Fisheye is very smart about the game, no one can argue that, but i simply dont think he is as good as those players, sorry Smuft would have gone through WCG flawless, after imppressive performance at TLT, no one was at his level. Fisheye is really good indeed I like his style and attitude very much, but I really don't think he could deal with someone like Blackman for instance. Then Blackman should be considered. Edit: If I recall, Blackman beat him pretty bad WCG 2002 and don't recall where else | ||
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User_
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ejai63
United States2101 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On January 21 2004 22:14 soundwave wrote: some site published a pack of Slayer reps, but I lost the link... does anyone have it handy ? http://www.starcraftgamers.com/files/replay_packages/Slayer.zip | ||
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Mr.Royle
Portugal324 Posts
http://www.starcraftgamers.com/files/replay_packages/Slayer.zip | ||
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Sliggy
Australia797 Posts
Oh, and was Private[pG] Nal_GG? Cos if he was Daaman he deserves a replay for completely raping the fuck out of yellow in some WSL game. Blackman is a fucking legend, but Grrrr / NTT claim the throne for best ever foreigners. like some other guy said, they bashed the fuck out of pro kors like nobody else. | ||
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krzych113
United Kingdom547 Posts
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Amberski
Bulgaria17 Posts
I know there are a lot of amazing bw players, most of them mentioned in the previous posts. But whatsoever, we are talking about the top of the top (some funny rap - "MiB" so unlogicaly the throne belongs to two players:NTT & Grrr... Their achievements are well known, so I shall not repeat then, but I am going to propose this division: Best non Korean toss user of all times: Grrr... Best non Korean terran user of all times: NTT (known as hasudrone) As a terran player and fan, I will comment only why NTT deserves to be Nr. 1 On his first apierence in Korea (yes, he was there, 2 place), he was offered to stay there as a pro, having 4 suggestions. Refused all of them. He is definitly the best macro_fucker in the world, with an insane micro and disturbing creativity!! As someone mentioned above "nobody used to kick so bad Koreans". His vision over the game was kind a shocking ( Anyone seen another player pushed from 12 dragoons and a shuttle with reavers, sending them all back to Auir via throwing at them his mighty legions of SCVs?!? NO!!! ) A lot can be told about his skills, but will finish with his worst. He was arogant, never admitted that this is just a waste of time, looked at the other at least ironic. Never prepared himself seriously for the competitons and finally, in his apogee, he retired! Anyway, he is my choise... he is The Terran Choise! | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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Mydnyte
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IntoTheClan
Afghanistan207 Posts
On January 22 2004 02:13 ApollyoN wrote: I really dont think fisheye deserves to be mentioned with Saft, Grrrr..., Nazgul, OR smuft. You can throw in his last wcg performance, or whatever, but we really dont know what smuft wouldve done, do we? :| Fisheye is very smart about the game, no one can argue that, but i simply dont think he is as good as those players, sorry i dont think u can compare Fisheye with gamers like Grrrr... or Elky or any other Korean Pro Toss. But whats the big differnce between Saft,Nazgul,Smuft and Fisheye ? I think Fisheye was more successfull than Smuft and Saft were. I dont know if they ever won around 20000 $ with bw. DId they ? And if we dont talk about success, we talk about style ? Oldschool ? Tricky play? Impressive games ? Tell me whats the big difference between fisheye and Nazgul,Smuft,Saft ? Fisheye beat Grrrr.. twice in wcg.. pwnd elky and silent_control. I mean where is your objective argument, why he isnt comparable with the mentioned tosses. Expect Grrrr... ( who is simpley thenr1 non korean ever ) i dont agree with you. What did Smuft reach in Bw ? I mean cash ? Any tournaments ? And yes his games vs Zeus on nnwo or some other games were really nice. But i really think that the toss list looks more like that : 1.Grrrr..., Zileas 2.Saft,Nazgul,Fisheye 3.Smuft, others.. 4.Rekrul, Willet ect.. | ||
Liquid`RaSZi
Netherlands2766 Posts
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