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On October 10 2009 19:59 7mk wrote:
"the dropping of many sponsors within a year, (KTF, OGN, Lecaf, and HanbitSoft)"
? KTF didn't drop, neither did Lecaf. Hwaesung owns Lecaf.
Many misconceptions in that statement anyway.
KTF merged back with its parent company KT due to the financial crisis. Therefore the team had to take up the KT name.
OGN 'sold' their naming rights to the hite company, therefore hite Sparkyz. Even though the name changed, OGN still own and operate the team and hite have pretty much nothing to do with it.
As mentioned, Lecaf was changed to Hwaseung to reflect how the Hwaseung corporation wanted to spread the Hwaseung brand name, rather than Lecaf.
The only true sponsorship change was Hanbit to Woongjin.
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I corrected the error. I admit pure ignorance on my part.
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even after 7 years the articles are fantastic...
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Incredible! What a great read.
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
man im stunned, excellent article, must've took quite a lot time!
i was also one of those which GOM brought to here and to SC overall.
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Whenever I look at this Storm Zerg picture I feel like falling on my knees in awe.
btw. You should look into the Bisu section, some formatting is broken there.
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On October 10 2009 23:50 Manit0u wrote:
Whenever I look at this Storm Zerg picture I feel like falling on my knees in awe.
btw. You should look into the Bisu section, some formatting is broken there.
Unfortunately I can't do anything about that. Some of those threads have images that were taken down from hosting as well as html that doesn't work when I use it.
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Damn, this is the best article I've read on TL ever. If there was one thing I would show to new friends to teach them about progaming - this would be it.
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On October 10 2009 22:33 Rice wrote:
I know im diving into a shit storm with this one but.... why is saviors cj face every single game every single win the definition of personality but with jaedong its apparently a completely different story and he has no personality? (atleast according to the article)
Uh you probably weren't around when Savior was dominant I guess.
Savior had that vibe about him that he KNEW he was good and he KNEW that people didn't stand a god damn chance against him. He looked arrogant and he looked like he knew no one could beat him... just look at the pictures he took back then compared to what he does now. It's such a big difference. He didn't acquire the "death stare" after being beaten once... Savior is basically the guy that invented the yawn rape.
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I'm surprised you listed CaSy as a so-called "hero". If I remember correctly, he was quite the one-hit wonder, winning his OSL simply because it was mostly Zerg infested. He was simply a completely abyssal TvP player, a good TvT player, and an S-Class TvZ player known for his astonishing ability to micro marines...which is, as you mentioned, Boxer had already done three hundred times over. So, he hardly brought anything new to the table, had virtually no staying power, and to be honest, faded away the moment he won his OSL.
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It's a lot less depth than this tbh.
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On October 11 2009 00:00 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2009 22:33 Rice wrote:
I know im diving into a shit storm with this one but.... why is saviors cj face every single game every single win the definition of personality but with jaedong its apparently a completely different story and he has no personality? (atleast according to the article) Uh you probably weren't around when Savior was dominant I guess. Savior had that vibe about him that he KNEW he was good and he KNEW that people didn't stand a god damn chance against him. He looked arrogant and he looked like he knew no one could beat him... just look at the pictures he took back then compared to what he does now. It's such a big difference. He didn't acquire the "death stare" after being beaten once... Savior is basically the guy that invented the yawn rape.
I was around and this is my point exactly...you think jaedong doesnt "KNOW" hes good? perhaps other people are better when you compare jaedong with the rest of the scene and savior in his prime with the rest of the scene but how this changes their "vibe" is beyond me.. just because fans want to label savior as arrogant and see him as some badass based on reading his facial expressions.
Saying 10 gamers COULD be favorites over jaedong in a bo5 series right now is just ridiculous...youd be dumb to bet on anyone other than jaedong just like youd be dumb to bet on anyone over savior. This doesn't mean that they didn't/don't lose any games.
The fact that jaedongs competition is more fierce, in my opinion, should make him just seem all the more dominant...
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On October 11 2009 00:17 Rice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2009 00:00 Jayme wrote:On October 10 2009 22:33 Rice wrote:
I know im diving into a shit storm with this one but.... why is saviors cj face every single game every single win the definition of personality but with jaedong its apparently a completely different story and he has no personality? (atleast according to the article) Uh you probably weren't around when Savior was dominant I guess. Savior had that vibe about him that he KNEW he was good and he KNEW that people didn't stand a god damn chance against him. He looked arrogant and he looked like he knew no one could beat him... just look at the pictures he took back then compared to what he does now. It's such a big difference. He didn't acquire the "death stare" after being beaten once... Savior is basically the guy that invented the yawn rape. I was around and this is my point exactly...you think jaedong doesnt "KNOW" hes good? perhaps other people are better when you compare jaedong with the rest of the scene and savior in his prime with the rest of the scene but how this changes their "vibe" is beyond me.. just because fans want to label savior as arrogant and see him as some badass based on reading his facial expressions. Saying 10 gamers COULD be favorites over jaedong in a bo5 series right now is just ridiculous...youd be dumb to bet on anyone other than jaedong just like youd be dumb to bet on anyone over savior. This doesn't mean that they didn't/don't lose any games. The fact that jaedongs competition is more fierce, in my opinion, should make him just seem all the more dominant...
I would vote for FantaSy over Jaedong. Really. The gap between Jaedong and his counterparts is so small compared to any of the Bonjwa. That's what makes a bonjwa. not stats.
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absolutely amazing article. two thumbs up!
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were there ever any real rivalries or just contrived grudge matches?
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On October 11 2009 00:27 alexpnd wrote:
were there ever any real rivalries or just contrived grudge matches?
BoxeR/YellOw would be the classic example.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On October 11 2009 00:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2009 00:17 Rice wrote:On October 11 2009 00:00 Jayme wrote:On October 10 2009 22:33 Rice wrote:
I know im diving into a shit storm with this one but.... why is saviors cj face every single game every single win the definition of personality but with jaedong its apparently a completely different story and he has no personality? (atleast according to the article) Uh you probably weren't around when Savior was dominant I guess. Savior had that vibe about him that he KNEW he was good and he KNEW that people didn't stand a god damn chance against him. He looked arrogant and he looked like he knew no one could beat him... just look at the pictures he took back then compared to what he does now. It's such a big difference. He didn't acquire the "death stare" after being beaten once... Savior is basically the guy that invented the yawn rape. I was around and this is my point exactly...you think jaedong doesnt "KNOW" hes good? perhaps other people are better when you compare jaedong with the rest of the scene and savior in his prime with the rest of the scene but how this changes their "vibe" is beyond me.. just because fans want to label savior as arrogant and see him as some badass based on reading his facial expressions. Saying 10 gamers COULD be favorites over jaedong in a bo5 series right now is just ridiculous...youd be dumb to bet on anyone other than jaedong just like youd be dumb to bet on anyone over savior. This doesn't mean that they didn't/don't lose any games. The fact that jaedongs competition is more fierce, in my opinion, should make him just seem all the more dominant... I would vote for FantaSy over Jaedong. Really. The gap between Jaedong and his counterparts is so small compared to any of the Bonjwa. That's what makes a bonjwa. not stats.
This makes zero sense. Fantasy over Jaedong for bonjwa? Just stupid.
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This was a nice article. Will probably generate a lot of controversy.
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