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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 10 2009 21:23 Zato-1 wrote: Stork's picture at the top banner confuses me. He hasn't been playing at S-class level ever since his OSL gold, and that's quite a lot of months. He's still an S-Class player and by his recent showings he will be back in top-form. He's a slumping S-Class player not an S-Class Player turned A-B Class like sAviOr is now. | ||
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Marksman
Malaysia523 Posts
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Loffeman
Sweden105 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
-Bisu is also kinda a hero too. I only wished he had won an OSL though. -Flash is sickly good, but he can't seem to win more titles so no, he's not a hero. I guess my definition of hero is strongly influenced by a player's accomplishments. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 10 2009 21:50 meegrean wrote: -Jaedong is a hero in my opinion. Why should perfect mechanics be considered different from creative play? As long as you have a special characteristic that gives you dominating results, it should make you a hero. Also, take a look at his Kespa ranking. -Bisu is also kinda a hero too. I only wished he had won an OSL though. -Flash is sickly good, but he can't seem to win more titles so no, he's not a hero. I guess my definition of hero is strongly influenced by a player's accomplishments. I'm not defining hero by statistics alone. But it's all relative. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Jaedong does indeed inspire awe with his games. Read what his fellow progamers say about him in interviews. The thing is, he's doing it by different means that Boxer did. It's just as impressive, nonetheless. And I know that I've jumped out of my seat and yelled in excitement multiple times when watching Jaedong, such as when he won with that 4-pool against Fantasy (fucking genius). Also, microing 2 control groups of mutas at the same time (JD vs Iris) is at least as heroic as cloning yamato cannons. Even more so, IMO. If we look at pure achievements, Boxer has 2 OSL's. Jaedong has 3 OSL's, 1 MSL and 1 GOM thingy, all aquired in a time where the competition is so much harder and schedules way tougher (he played OSL and MSL semifinals in consecutive days last season!!!!!). Look at how far ahead he is in the Kespa ranking (Jaedong has over 3000 points whereas Bisu has under 2000). No matter how you look at it, JD is a real fucking hero. Jaedong the hero FTW! | ||
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Loffeman
Sweden105 Posts
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
If we look at pure achievements, Boxer has 2 OSL's. Jaedong has 3 OSL's, 1 MSL and 1 GOM thingy Jaedong does have more gold medals than Boxer but it's kinda unfair of you to only list 2 of Boxer's golds while ignoring the other ones. Boxer also won 1 MSL and 2 WCG's for instance... | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2593 Posts
and i really liked your percussion analogy and that you concluded the article by looking towards SC2... i'm so hyped | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On October 10 2009 22:13 KristianJS wrote: Jaedong does have more gold medals than Boxer but it's kinda unfair of you to only list 2 of Boxer's golds while ignoring the other ones. Boxer also won 1 MSL and 2 WCG's for instance... Forgot about Boxer's MSL.  But WCG cannot be compared to Starleagues in any way. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
On October 10 2009 22:27 Holgerius wrote: Forgot about Boxer's MSL. But WCG cannot be compared to Starleagues in any way. True, but I was thinking 2 WCG's = 1 GOM or something :D | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 10 2009 22:21 chongu wrote: AWESOME article!!!! TL for LIEF!!! But seriously.... Fantasy has personality? : 3 and i really liked your percussion analogy and that you concluded the article by looking towards SC2... i'm so hyped Yes actually he does. He's kind of cocky. Helps being the best terran in the world. | ||
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_awake_
196 Posts
Every sport needs a hero. Every sport needs a Pele, a Michael Jordon, or a Tiger Woods. Kim Taek Young was the last true hero and Jaedong might yet be his successor. small typos aside, great article | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On October 10 2009 22:29 KristianJS wrote: True, but I was thinking 2 WCG's = 1 GOM or something :D Maybe. :D Considering Bisu didn't participate in the GOM thingy (all other great players did though; Stork, Jangbi, Free, Kal, Flash, etc) I can agree that 2 WCG's can be considered equal to that. Point remains though; Jaedong has already accomplished moar, he has charisma, has an influence on the metagame, no weak matchup, etc etc etc. A real fucking hero. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 10 2009 22:33 Rice wrote: I know im diving into a shit storm with this one but.... why is saviors cj face every single game every single win the definition of personality but with jaedong its apparently a completely different story and he has no personality? (atleast according to the article) He was dominant in a very different way than Jaedong. He was far scarier than Jaedong is now. He also redefined Zerg which Jaedong has not done. | ||
GTR
51512 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 10 2009 22:48 GTR wrote: Er, there is no doubt in the world Jaedong was the single Zerg (can make an argument with the Twins and some others) that bought back the aggressive style of Zerg, which sAviOr de-popularized through his management-style of play. He repopularized something, however he does often play a greedy management style. I suppose I would submit he isn't a very original zerg compared to YellOw/July/sAviOr | ||
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