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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
October 10 2009 12:23 GMT
#61
Stork's picture at the top banner confuses me. He hasn't been playing at S-class level ever since his OSL gold, and that's quite a lot of months.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 10 2009 12:27 GMT
#62
On October 10 2009 21:23 Zato-1 wrote:
Stork's picture at the top banner confuses me. He hasn't been playing at S-class level ever since his OSL gold, and that's quite a lot of months.


He's still an S-Class player and by his recent showings he will be back in top-form. He's a slumping S-Class player not an S-Class Player turned A-B Class like sAviOr is now.
RIP Aaliyah
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
October 10 2009 12:41 GMT
#63
Darn good article...I felt so emo lol.
I live by the LoL
Loffeman
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden105 Posts
October 10 2009 12:48 GMT
#64
It seems like some people think that the reason JD is big is luck or something. They won't accept that he is a favourite in any b05 and that he's been doing great in every league the last 2 years.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 10 2009 12:50 GMT
#65
-Jaedong is a hero in my opinion. Why should perfect mechanics be considered different from creative play? As long as you have a special characteristic that gives you dominating results, it should make you a hero. Also, take a look at his Kespa ranking.
-Bisu is also kinda a hero too. I only wished he had won an OSL though.
-Flash is sickly good, but he can't seem to win more titles so no, he's not a hero.

I guess my definition of hero is strongly influenced by a player's accomplishments.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 10 2009 12:55 GMT
#66
On October 10 2009 21:50 meegrean wrote:
-Jaedong is a hero in my opinion. Why should perfect mechanics be considered different from creative play? As long as you have a special characteristic that gives you dominating results, it should make you a hero. Also, take a look at his Kespa ranking.
-Bisu is also kinda a hero too. I only wished he had won an OSL though.
-Flash is sickly good, but he can't seem to win more titles so no, he's not a hero.

I guess my definition of hero is strongly influenced by a player's accomplishments.


I'm not defining hero by statistics alone. But it's all relative.

RIP Aaliyah
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 10 2009 13:00 GMT
#67
I disagree; Jaedong has everything required to be a true hero.

Jaedong does indeed inspire awe with his games. Read what his fellow progamers say about him in interviews. The thing is, he's doing it by different means that Boxer did. It's just as impressive, nonetheless. And I know that I've jumped out of my seat and yelled in excitement multiple times when watching Jaedong, such as when he won with that 4-pool against Fantasy (fucking genius). Also, microing 2 control groups of mutas at the same time (JD vs Iris) is at least as heroic as cloning yamato cannons. Even more so, IMO.

If we look at pure achievements, Boxer has 2 OSL's. Jaedong has 3 OSL's, 1 MSL and 1 GOM thingy, all aquired in a time where the competition is so much harder and schedules way tougher (he played OSL and MSL semifinals in consecutive days last season!!!!!). Look at how far ahead he is in the Kespa ranking (Jaedong has over 3000 points whereas Bisu has under 2000). No matter how you look at it, JD is a real fucking hero.

Jaedong the hero FTW!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Loffeman
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden105 Posts
October 10 2009 13:00 GMT
#68
I think JD is very carismatic in his own way as well. There is something in his focus and his stare that I gotta love.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
October 10 2009 13:13 GMT
#69
If we look at pure achievements, Boxer has 2 OSL's. Jaedong has 3 OSL's, 1 MSL and 1 GOM thingy


Jaedong does have more gold medals than Boxer but it's kinda unfair of you to only list 2 of Boxer's golds while ignoring the other ones. Boxer also won 1 MSL and 2 WCG's for instance...
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-10 13:22:56
October 10 2009 13:21 GMT
#70
AWESOME article!!!! TL for LIEF!!! But seriously.... Fantasy has personality? : 3

and i really liked your percussion analogy and that you concluded the article by looking towards SC2... i'm so hyped
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 10 2009 13:27 GMT
#71
On October 10 2009 22:13 KristianJS wrote:
Show nested quote +
If we look at pure achievements, Boxer has 2 OSL's. Jaedong has 3 OSL's, 1 MSL and 1 GOM thingy


Jaedong does have more gold medals than Boxer but it's kinda unfair of you to only list 2 of Boxer's golds while ignoring the other ones. Boxer also won 1 MSL and 2 WCG's for instance...

Forgot about Boxer's MSL. But WCG cannot be compared to Starleagues in any way.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
October 10 2009 13:29 GMT
#72
On October 10 2009 22:27 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 22:13 KristianJS wrote:
If we look at pure achievements, Boxer has 2 OSL's. Jaedong has 3 OSL's, 1 MSL and 1 GOM thingy


Jaedong does have more gold medals than Boxer but it's kinda unfair of you to only list 2 of Boxer's golds while ignoring the other ones. Boxer also won 1 MSL and 2 WCG's for instance...

Forgot about Boxer's MSL. But WCG cannot be compared to Starleagues in any way.


True, but I was thinking 2 WCG's = 1 GOM or something :D
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
October 10 2009 13:30 GMT
#73
Awesome article, thanks so much for all the effort and insight.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 10 2009 13:31 GMT
#74
On October 10 2009 22:21 chongu wrote:
AWESOME article!!!! TL for LIEF!!! But seriously.... Fantasy has personality? : 3

and i really liked your percussion analogy and that you concluded the article by looking towards SC2... i'm so hyped


Yes actually he does. He's kind of cocky. Helps being the best terran in the world.
RIP Aaliyah
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
October 10 2009 13:32 GMT
#75
Every sport needs a hero. Every sport needs a Pele, a Michael Jordon, or a Tiger Woods.

Kim Taek Young was the last true hero and Jaedong might yet be his successor.


small typos aside, great article
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
October 10 2009 13:33 GMT
#76
I know im diving into a shit storm with this one but.... why is saviors cj face every single game every single win the definition of personality but with jaedong its apparently a completely different story and he has no personality? (atleast according to the article)
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 10 2009 13:38 GMT
#77
On October 10 2009 22:29 KristianJS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 22:27 Holgerius wrote:
On October 10 2009 22:13 KristianJS wrote:
If we look at pure achievements, Boxer has 2 OSL's. Jaedong has 3 OSL's, 1 MSL and 1 GOM thingy


Jaedong does have more gold medals than Boxer but it's kinda unfair of you to only list 2 of Boxer's golds while ignoring the other ones. Boxer also won 1 MSL and 2 WCG's for instance...

Forgot about Boxer's MSL. But WCG cannot be compared to Starleagues in any way.


True, but I was thinking 2 WCG's = 1 GOM or something :D

Maybe. :D Considering Bisu didn't participate in the GOM thingy (all other great players did though; Stork, Jangbi, Free, Kal, Flash, etc) I can agree that 2 WCG's can be considered equal to that. Point remains though; Jaedong has already accomplished moar, he has charisma, has an influence on the metagame, no weak matchup, etc etc etc. A real fucking hero.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 10 2009 13:44 GMT
#78
On October 10 2009 22:33 Rice wrote:
I know im diving into a shit storm with this one but.... why is saviors cj face every single game every single win the definition of personality but with jaedong its apparently a completely different story and he has no personality? (atleast according to the article)


He was dominant in a very different way than Jaedong. He was far scarier than Jaedong is now. He also redefined Zerg which Jaedong has not done.
RIP Aaliyah
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
October 10 2009 13:48 GMT
#79
Er, there is no doubt in the world Jaedong was the single Zerg (can make an argument with the Twins and some others) that bought back the aggressive style of Zerg, which sAviOr de-popularized through his management-style of play.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 10 2009 13:51 GMT
#80
On October 10 2009 22:48 GTR wrote:
Er, there is no doubt in the world Jaedong was the single Zerg (can make an argument with the Twins and some others) that bought back the aggressive style of Zerg, which sAviOr de-popularized through his management-style of play.


He repopularized something, however he does often play a greedy management style.

I suppose I would submit he isn't a very original zerg compared to YellOw/July/sAviOr
RIP Aaliyah
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