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Wippien - hamachi alternative

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Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 20:02:32
September 01 2009 20:56 GMT
#1
With ICCup down and hamachi not working for me, my only chance is to convert everyone to wippien.

Wippien works with a buddy system. It's like MSN, AIM, Yahoo, Google talk, the only difference is that in addition to be able to chat with your buddies, Wippien puts you on a VPN with everyone you've added. That means anyone you have in your buddy list can see and join your games on LAN UDP.

Like MSN etc, wippien also supports chat rooms. I've made a chatroom called teamliquid. All the people in the teamliquid wippien chatroom are also put on the same VPN and will be able to see each others games.

Wippien is actually really easy to configure to just use out of the box, but you'll probably prefer to change some settings. Here I'll tell you what to do:

After you download wippien from http://wippien.com and start it for the very first time, you are presented with the following screen:

Step 1) JID

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In the JID field enter your teamliquid name followed by @neko.im. Neko.im is only one of the many registrars for jabber IDs, but it will help if we are all on the same jabber server.

Enter a password and then click "test account." Wait for "success", then change the radio button to "I have an existing account" and click test account again to connect. Click "next" and then finish.

Step 2) IP Provider database

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Open wippien from your system tray (area near the clock) since it has minimized itself automatically due to inactivity while you were reading this. Then click settings. In "System" you can prevent wippien from minimizing itself automatically.

The most important one is "network". First of all, you probably want to set the ip provider database to this URL:

http://wippien.com/ip/?baseaddr=172.0.0.0&netmask=255.255.0.0&jid=

The default ip range conflicts with hamachi. Even if you don't have hamachi, change the ip provider so that we all use the same one.

Step 3) Firewall

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Click down to firewall (under network), and click "block all traffic." Then add ICMP, UDP 6111, UDP 6112.

Right-click the windows networking icon in your task-bar and select "change windows firewall settings". Then move to "advanced" and uncheck wippien in the list of firewalled connections. This leaves your windows firewall on but prevents the windows firewall from interfering with wippien.

In wippien, all traffic is blocked except ping and starcraft.

Step 4)

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And this is how you can join our chatroom. Press the chat button (third button in the row at the top of your buddylist) and then fill in the details as shown. Room: teamliquid. Password: rocks. Gateway: conference.neko.im. At the top of that screen you can set your nickname. You have to hit [join or create room] instead of [ok].

Don't forget to add phrujbaz@neko.im to your buddies too!
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distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
September 01 2009 21:03 GMT
#2
why isn't hamachi working for you? we really don't need more place to hang out. hamachi is fine. no need to split the few people that use it up in more groups.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
September 01 2009 21:19 GMT
#3
It looks like the advantage of this is that you get a chatroom associated with the psuedo-lan network.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 01 2009 23:32 GMT
#4
iirc you can use the server chat window as a chat room in Hamachi
Writerptrk
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 01 2009 23:34 GMT
#5
On September 02 2009 08:32 ArvickHero wrote:
iirc you can use the server chat window as a chat room in Hamachi

Yep. If you could have more than 10 people or so in a server this would be better though. (If you can't use hamachi, get the force hamachi plug-in and chaoslauncher).
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 01 2009 23:40 GMT
#6
16 or 14 people is the max for a server, upgraded servers are like 50 but those are kinda expensive to maintain if its just for gaming. I'm in a server that's upgraded to 50 max but I'm not sure whether or not he cracked it, since I also hear he cracked his vent to hold up to 100 people..
Writerptrk
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
September 02 2009 17:58 GMT
#7
Moar!
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gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
September 02 2009 17:59 GMT
#8
y'know i couldn't get hamachi to wurk until i used forceHamachi... I'll give this a look sometime
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
September 02 2009 18:11 GMT
#9
Will we need to use ForceBindIP again? and how many people can be connected max?
xalo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Peru80 Posts
September 02 2009 18:21 GMT
#10
why don't you people use garena? there are plenty of empty rooms and each one of those support up to 225 people, you have a buddy list and a chat room.
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 18:30:04
September 02 2009 18:21 GMT
#11
On September 03 2009 03:11 dhe95 wrote:
Will we need to use ForceBindIP again? and how many people can be connected max?

I have no clue what that is, so probably not (I am using wippien and I am not needing it).

On September 03 2009 03:21 xalo wrote:
why don't you people use garena? there are plenty of empty rooms and each one of those support up to 225 people, you have a buddy list and a chat room.

I'm sure garena works for a lot of people but I prefer wippien in a number of ways. For example

A) Wippien is light-weight and unlike garena does not eat a lot of cpu cycles unnecessarily.
B) Wippien allows but does not require people to split themselves amongst multiple rooms, and the limit is not 225 but rather somewhere near 255^2. Also, buddies on your list are automatically joined to your LAN.
C) Wippien is cross-platform and can connect me to my peers from both Linux and Windows.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42490 Posts
September 02 2009 19:01 GMT
#12
The more recent hamachi versions don't work for bw and even the older versions had issues for me. Struggling to find a link for downloading an old version.
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Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
September 02 2009 19:39 GMT
#13
On September 03 2009 04:01 Kwark wrote:
The more recent hamachi versions don't work for bw and even the older versions had issues for me. Struggling to find a link for downloading an old version.


http://www.taringa.net/posts/ebooks-tutoriales/1692460/Licencia-Premium-Hamachi-1_0_3_0.html
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
September 03 2009 07:03 GMT
#14
im surprised people still use hamachi. the 16 person limit is just ridiculous
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
September 03 2009 09:24 GMT
#15
turn off your firewall and hamachi will work
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-03 19:21:31
September 03 2009 19:18 GMT
#16
On September 03 2009 18:24 omninmo wrote:
turn off your firewall and hamachi will work


Yeah it will , but if i turn off my firewall my computer starts crashing for some unknown reason . If i can get hamachi to work with SC and firewall at the same time it will help me alot to ease my nerves .
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 03 2009 19:25 GMT
#17
On September 03 2009 16:03 lazz wrote:
im surprised people still use hamachi. the 16 person limit is just ridiculous


really lol? i've never actually hit that cap. i usually just use it with a few friends.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
pat965
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada274 Posts
September 03 2009 19:42 GMT
#18
If this thing has no limit then I'm all for it, hamachi is pretty ridiculous
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Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
September 03 2009 20:00 GMT
#19
Updated guide to show how to get into the chatroom.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 03 2009 20:13 GMT
#20
I still can't get into the chatroom after following all that.
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
September 04 2009 17:38 GMT
#21
Well you did join the chatroom, Nevuk. Only thing was you had to add the other guy to your buddy list because for some reason it didn't establish vpn to him on the chatroom.
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