EPTICCup catches 250+ Hackers - Page 27
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
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DrTJEckleburg
United States1080 Posts
On September 02 2009 09:26 Kwark wrote: And then whenever they post anywhere about anything it instantly changes the topic to "lol, didn't you hack? nothing you say counts". Ban and then if they were a decent forum member let them try and return with a new identity seems best. I agree with Kwark, only outstanding or good posters should be allowed back after a period of time, what period of time is the question. I don't think allowing someone like clazziquai back after 1 year would be unreasonable. Of course if he got caught hacking again then a permanent ban with no forgiveness should be the course of action. In CAL-CS we banned cheaters for 1 year, then 2, then permanently with lesser penalties for things like illegal ringers and illegal config changes(similar to abusing a bug you could say, like 16 biting). I don't know if it would be different in StarCraft, but many people who were banned from CAL were constantly repeat offenders and they could obtain new IPs, steamids, whatever, and they would be tracked down. I can only imagine the same would be true here at TL, that somebody who deserved to be banned would remain banned, eventually. Someone like clazz had a reputation built up and it is now shattered but I wouldn't see the problem in allowing him the opportunity to began rebuilding it after 1 year. Although I don't think a new identity is appropriate, the user should continue on the same handle. | ||
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
On September 02 2009 09:26 Kwark wrote: And then whenever they post anywhere about anything it instantly changes the topic to "lol, didn't you hack? nothing you say counts". Ban and then if they were a decent forum member let them try and return with a new identity seems best. Well, it's not like admins can't enforce a rule against this kind of thing like how they warn/ban people who say 1a2a3a or inb4 close or whatever. | ||
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sixghost
United States2096 Posts
On September 02 2009 09:40 Valentine wrote: Also, has anyone released exactly HOW the anti-hack works, and what makes the method so fool-proof? It checks for a program that allows you to load 3rd party programs while having iccups AH launcher running. Obviously it's not 100% that you were loading a hack while using it, but there really isnt much reason to use it for anything else. | ||
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reddog1999
United States143 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9950 Posts
On September 02 2009 10:20 sixghost wrote: It checks for a program that allows you to load 3rd party programs while having iccups AH launcher running. Obviously it's not 100% that you were loading a hack while using it, but there really isnt much reason to use it for anything else. Actually, I was wrong. Refer to the Python_Max posts in this thread if you want more information. The reason why it's still no argument is that you would've have had to start using these programs right when the logging started, and only then have realized that it discs you. | ||
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KwarK
United States43985 Posts
On September 02 2009 09:46 ghostWriter wrote: Well, it's not like admins can't enforce a rule against this kind of thing like how they warn/ban people who say 1a2a3a or inb4 close or whatever. Something is going wrong when admins defend hackers against the fury of the mob. | ||
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reddog1999
United States143 Posts
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scrapperdog
United States779 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
On September 02 2009 15:37 scrapperdog wrote: I am in full support of lifetime bans, no excuses. I thought the same way at first but now I think that hackers should be ban for a certain amount of time. Like someone cought hacking gets banned for like 6 month. After 6 month he can play again and if he hacks again -> lifetime ban. Everyone deserves a second chance for everything (exept murder or something  but we are talking about computergames here) especially since many gamers are very young. Banning them for a period could make them think about what they did and when they grow older they can easily change and never hack again.. Maybe | ||
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scrapperdog
United States779 Posts
On September 02 2009 16:47 Sewi wrote: I thought the same way at first but now I think that hackers should be ban for a certain amount of time. Like someone cought hacking gets banned for like 6 month. After 6 month he can play again and if he hacks again -> lifetime ban. Everyone deserves a second chance for everything (exept murder or something but we are talking about computergames here) especially since many gamers are very young. Banning them for a period could make them think about what they did and when they grow older they can easily change and never hack again.. MaybeYour much better off doing nothing than banning for 6 months. A six month ban tells people they can use hacks and get caught and have minimal consequences. In fact, this will encourage even more people to hack knowing in the very very rare situation they do get caught, they will infact get a slap on the wrist. At least if nothing is done they might fear some kind of iron hammer coming down in the future. Not knowing what is going to happen is often worse than knowing. So if your plan is to encourage more hackers and people using hacks on the only safe haven available to players then it is a great plan. When you look at the absurd number of people caught over and over again through the years, it is naive to think hackers want to be reformed by do gooders. | ||
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ActualSteve
United States627 Posts
I wanted to see Combat make the cut. | ||
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
On September 02 2009 17:38 scrapperdog wrote: Your much better off doing nothing than banning for 6 months. A six month ban tells people they can use hacks and get caught and have minimal consequences. In fact, this will encourage even more people to hack knowing in the very very rare situation they do get caught, they will infact get a slap on the wrist. At least if nothing is done they might fear some kind of iron hammer coming down in the future. Not knowing what is going to happen is often worse than knowing. So if your plan is to encourage more hackers and people using hacks on the only safe haven available to players then it is a great plan. When you look at the absurd number of people caught over and over again through the years, it is naive to think hackers want to be reformed by do gooders. I agree in some points but many people who hack are very young people without experience. These people would be extremely fucked if they cant play iccup for 6 month... its a long time! But on the other hand I would agree with you when it comes to professional gaming. When people hack in toruraments played for money or something like this. they should be maybe banned from all other tournaments or something. | ||
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MethodMan
France1 Post
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
On September 02 2009 10:38 Kwark wrote: Something is going wrong when admins defend hackers against the fury of the mob. That's very true. But still, 1 year is a very long time. In a year, sc2 will probably be out (lol) | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
On September 03 2009 00:10 Patriot.dlk wrote: To bad it only caught smurfs and a nice guy from tl.net... Still, job well done! On September 02 2009 16:39 iCCup.deL wrote: The list of aka's will be released, Tree. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On August 31 2009 09:50 Kennigit wrote: Gonna try get ips to compare vs tl accounts. Die hackers. How's that going? any Positives ? other than the one who made an account trying to deny the crime of course. What's the punishment for these TL accounts? would you IP ban them so they can't even open up Teamliquid? or a regular ban that made them not able to post but still able to click on the live streams and brows teamliquid? | ||
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Mongery
892 Posts
On September 03 2009 02:06 rei wrote: How's that going? any Positives ? other than the one who made an account trying to deny the crime of course. What's the punishment for these TL accounts? would you IP ban them so they can't even open up Teamliquid? or a regular ban that made them not able to post but still able to click on the live streams and brows teamliquid? I wonder that too, what is going to happen to them >_< | ||
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