ICCup catches 250+ Hackers - Page 14

Kyhol

Canada2575 Posts

August 31 2009 03:44 GMT

#261

On August 31 2009 12:18 Jumperer wrote:
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iownyouez = npnl.yelloh.

trillian log

Session Start (Jumperer@gmail.com:Tad): Wed Aug 26 22:25:32 2009
[22:25] Tad: rit
[22:25] Tad: ret is streaming on my id
[22:25] Tad: (Link: http://www.livestream.com/retje)http://www.livestream.com/retje
Session Close (Tad): Wed Aug 26 23:22:59 2009

yelloh also paid me to play SC on his npnl.yelloh account, to boost his ego. I stopped playing for him since he stopped paying me.He also takeover my identity by pretending to be me. Wasn't part of the deal but I didn't really care, in fact I thought it was hilarious how he managed to fool everyone without managing to log in into any of my Jumper name. So yea he developed a connections with foreign gosus

[18:55] Tad: rit
[18:55] Tad: u there?
[18:56] Jump: yea
[18:56] Tad: yo rit
[18:56] Tad: im gonna pay u thursday night
[18:56] Tad: ok?
[18:56] Jump: ok
[18:56] Tad: ccool
[18:57] Tad: yo
[18:57] Tad: i got some gosu ass people on my f list now
[18:57] Tad: lol
[18:57] Tad: morrow
[18:57] Tad: ret
[18:57] Tad: tls
[18:57] Tad: louder
[18:57] Tad: im in the clique now
[18:57] Jump: wtf
[18:57] Tad: LOL
[18:57] Jump: haha
[18:57] Jump: i could never get in
[18:58] Jump: they say i cheese too much
[18:58] Tad: why not
[18:58] Tad: LOL
[18:58] Jump: remember G5
[18:58] Jump: hahh
[18:58] Tad: yea
[18:58] Tad: rofl
[18:58] Tad: lastshadow is my good pal now
[18:58] Tad: rofl
[18:58] Tad: i prActice with him
[18:58] Tad: i even got tasteless on f list
[18:58] Tad: rofl
[18:58] Jump: wtf
[18:58] Jump: how did you do this
[18:58] Tad: im the man
[18:58] Tad: morrow is fucking gosu
[18:58] Tad: hes cool tho
[18:59] Jump: i played with morrow
[18:59] Jump: on iccup
[18:59] Jump: and again in a tournament
[18:59] Jump: lost to him 2-3
[18:59] Tad: thing is
[18:59] Jump: he is good
[18:59] Tad: i kind of told morrow
[18:59] Tad: i was you
[18:59] Tad: jumper
[18:59] Tad: rofl
[18:59] Jump: haha you jackass
[18:59] Tad: LOL
[18:59] Jump: you owe me 25 more dollars or i'll sue you for identity theft
[18:59] Tad: HAHA
[18:59] Jump: lol
[19:00] Tad: but srsly
[19:00] Tad: i obs a game today
[19:00] Tad: tls vs bisu
[19:00] Tad: rofl
[19:00] Jump: the real bisu?
[19:00] Tad: yea
[19:00] Tad: the actual bisu
[19:00] Jump: what map
[19:00] Tad: desti
[19:00] Tad: i wanna get lz on my f list
[19:01] Tad: but hes not even that good is he
[19:01] Jump: he is A-
[19:01] Tad: yea
[19:01] Jump: get paid to play the game
[19:01] Tad: really?
[19:01] Jump: yea
[19:01] Jump: he is in clan EG
[19:01] Tad: they get paid?
[19:01] Jump: they pay people
[19:01] Jump: yep
[19:01] Tad: wtf
[19:01] Jump: G5 machine etc is in it
[19:01] Jump: they send them equipments too
[19:01] Tad: how much?
[19:01] Jump: no idea
[19:01] Jump: you have to find out
[19:01] Tad: i will
[19:01] Tad: lol
[19:01] Tad: i got EG louder
[19:01] Tad: on f list
[19:01] Tad: and incontrol
[19:02] Tad: too bad i suck ass
[19:02] Tad: and can never play them
[19:02] Tad: rofl
[19:02] Tad: dude
[19:02] Tad: if u ever wanna play them
[19:02] Tad: log on my npnl name
[19:02] Tad: lol
[19:03] Jump: haha
[19:03] Jump: they see your B- and they want to be your friend
[19:03] Tad: im only C+ now
[19:03] Tad: i lost it
[19:03] Tad: go on a name and give me a win
[19:03] Tad: so on thursday +2.50
[19:03] Jump: i'll get to it
[19:03] Tad: it will be 26.40
[19:03] Tad: 50
[19:03] Tad: the deal is still on
[19:04] Tad: so if between now and then
[19:04] Tad: u game
[19:04] Tad: u get paid
[19:06] Jump: im getting on
[19:07] Tad: now?
[19:07] Jump: if you are not on your name
[19:08] Tad: there
[19:08] Tad: im off

Session Start (Jumperer@gmail.com:Tad): Sat Aug 01 21:16:55 2009
[21:16] Tad: did u see my f list
[21:16] Tad: its gosu eh?
[21:17] Jump: nah i didnt pay attention
[21:17] Tad: lol
[21:17] Jump: but some guy was talking to you on npnl clan
[21:17] Tad: i got exactly
[21:17] Tad: 6k points
[21:17] Jump: i know
[21:17] Jump: seriously
[21:17] Tad: who was?
[21:17] Tad: gomi?
[21:17] Jump: dont remember
[21:17] Jump: long name
[21:17] Tad: npnl.machettii
[21:17] Jump: yea
[21:17] Tad: what wa she sayin
[21:18] Jump: lol
[21:18] Jump: a girl?
[21:18] Tad: was he*
[21:18] Jump: something about you playing 2v2 a lot
[21:18] Tad: lol
[21:18] Tad: i play 2v2 legit
[21:18] Tad: and it sucks
[21:18] Tad: rit
[21:18] Tad: lets abuse iccup next season
[21:18] Tad: i wanna get A-
[21:18] Tad: is there a way u think?
[21:19] Jump: nah
[21:19] Jump: i'm gonna get A- the real men way
[21:19] Tad: and then /transfer to me?
[21:19] Jump: sure
[21:19] Tad: nice
[21:19] Tad: lol
[21:19] Tad: morrow thinks im jumperer
[21:19] Tad: LOL
[21:20] Tad: i joined his game
[21:20] Tad: and hes like
[21:20] Tad: who are u some fan?
[21:20] Tad: im like im jumperer bitch

Session Start (Jumperer@gmail.com:Tad): Sun Aug 02 18:47:48 2009
[18:47] Tad: rit
[18:47] Tad: play some more games
[18:47] Tad: on my shit
[18:47] Tad: get me to B+
[18:47] Jump: ok
[18:48] Jump: 25.50 so far
[18:48] Tad: i put
[18:48] Tad: aka jumperer in my orofile
[18:48] Tad: lol
[18:48] Tad: LOL
[18:48] Jump: haha
[18:48] Jump: im going to edit that
[19:32] Jump: one more win
[19:56] Tad: u won 97 points
[19:56] Tad: thats like
[19:56] Tad: 30 cents
[19:56] Tad: LOL
[19:56] Tad: ;p
[19:56] Jump: i couldn't find anyone to play with
[19:56] Jump: 2 dollars
[20:01] Tad: lol
[20:02] Tad: .75
[20:02] Tad: 1.75
[20:03] Jump: ok good enough
[20:03] Jump: now i have 25.50+1.75
[20:32] *** "Tad" signed off at Sun Aug 02 20:32:07 2009.
[20:34] *** "Tad" signed on at Sun Aug 02 20:34:22 2009.
[20:39] Tad: yes sir
[20:39] *** Auto-response sent to Tad: I am currently idle.
[21:25] Tad: jumper

Session Start (Jumperer@gmail.com:Tad): Sun Aug 09 20:28:44 2009
[20:28] Tad: get me to fuckin B
[20:28] Jump: you still owe me 10 dollars
[20:28] Tad: stfu
[20:29] Tad: ill pay u

I also smurfed for him in CWs and other random games against gosus for money of course. But I stopped doing that because he stopped paying me and plus its somewhat lame and i didn't feel like doing it anymore. I was gonna make a post declaring that I'm not yelloh but I changed my mind at the last second. He wasn't really doing any real harm(until now anyway) and its not like I really know anyone in the elite non korean community. I guess he turned to hacking when he no longer could get me to smurf for him. He created a world of lies and had to hack to back it up.

so yea, I'm not npnl.yelloh or iownyouez. If you see him around, just ask him to log into any of my Jumper's name. He won't be able to do it because he doesn't know the password to it.

Although I did give him one of my smurf's name because he would not stop msging me every second asking for pw of Jumper]ex[ account. In a true jackass fashion, he changed the pw of that smurf name. So i started trusting him less and less after that incident.

Furthermore, It would be extremely stupid for me to change my name to something like yelloh and then tell people I'm Jumper, wouldn't it? I had absolutely 0 reason to change my name.

All I want to know is, who is "Tad". Bragging about your f list is pretty fucking said, expecially if you're no where near their skill level.

darnoconrad

Canada110 Posts

August 31 2009 03:46 GMT

#262

Can TL create a permanent list"Players Caught Hacking" evets-x17 was caught previously but everyone seems to have forgotten and treats him like he's legit. It seems like 1 month will go by and it's like you never hacked.

Masamune

Canada3401 Posts

August 31 2009 03:46 GMT

#263

On August 31 2009 12:43 YPang wrote:

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On August 31 2009 12:35 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:

On August 31 2009 10:11 clazziquai wrote:
I am going to be 100% honest: I did use the ICCUP Killer hack after I hit C.

I know I shouldn't have.
I wanted C+ pretty badly and I tried to get it the easy way =\

It's all my fault though so I apologize if I have offended anyone in any way.

It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing.

So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't.

It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do.

That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked.

Clazz

Yes, this is only the case if someone did something that he KNEW he 100% shouldn't of, most of the time only do people confess themselves is when they've commited a murder, or hurt an entire family.

Hacking on a game, i believe is similar to cheating on a test, or lying to a friend, these are the things that you probably won't randomly confess until you are highly suspected ( even in this case iccup's list is not an official list of hackers, ONLY highly suspicious, and thats when clazziquai admitted that he was hacking). The guilt would NEVER be big enough for someone to go up and confess like that.

EDIT: if you hacked like a mofo in a money tournament and WON it, its different.

God this post is so dumb. Hacking is 100% wrong, so is murder and everything else bad. Some are worse than others, but in a perfect would they wouldn't exist. If you can convince yourself that hacking is only 90% wrong (I don't know why I'm using these dumb percentages, I think I'm just trying to respond to your post..) you deserve to face the consequences.

Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong?

If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, and permanent ban punishment i believe is too harsh, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for.

If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again.

On August 31 2009 12:15 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:13 IdrA wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:
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It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing.

That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked.

Clazz

Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong?

If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for.

If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again.

how does it take balls to admit to something after getting caught

he's not technically caught, just suspected. If it was spades, or much he'd still be denying no?

no no, your posts are dumb. I suggest you read the thread over again. Clazz already admitted that he hacked, it's not just a suspicion.

Did you really not get what i meant? I MEAN he ADMITTED that he hacked WHEN the LIST IS NOT AN OFFICIAL LIST OF HACKERS BUT A LIST OF SUSPICIOUS HACKERS... there i typed i t in caps, hopefully you understand now.

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There i bolded the part where i said iccup's hack list is not official hopefully that helps you. Thanks good day sir.

Next time you call my posts dumb please double read my comments before makign yourself look like a Fool AGAIN!...

your post is still dumb. Big deal if it's not official. Nothing is official; there is always a sliver of a chance someone is innocent when they are accused of a crime. He still hacked, bottom line. I really don't know what you're getting at because it's something so trivial.

YPang

United States4024 Posts

August 31 2009 03:49 GMT

#264

On August 31 2009 12:46 Masamune wrote:

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On August 31 2009 12:43 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:35 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:

It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing.

That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked.

Clazz

On August 31 2009 12:15 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:13 IdrA wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:
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So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't.

It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do.

That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked.

Clazz

Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong?

If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for.

If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again.

how does it take balls to admit to something after getting caught

he's not technically caught, just suspected. If it was spades, or much he'd still be denying no?

no no, your posts are dumb. I suggest you read the thread over again. Clazz already admitted that he hacked, it's not just a suspicion.

iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects

I would go on with this, but i feel like you're not using reasoning and/or not thinking in my perspective, but trying to compete with my ego. Or maybe i'm just not explaining well enough. So i'll let it go, good day sir.

iG.Aura

Poland686 Posts

August 31 2009 03:50 GMT

#265

On August 31 2009 12:44 Khol wrote:

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All I want to know is, who is "Tad". Bragging about your f list is pretty fucking said, expecially if you're no where near their skill level.

tad is yellow]i[ aka npnl.yellow npnl.yelloh, hes an ok guy i guess but he cares too much about BW... i always knew he hacked back on west but i didnt know he did it now

and no.. his accounts with B/B- w/e are never legit

Pepsicolaone

United States967 Posts

August 31 2009 03:50 GMT

#266

oh wow

randombum

United States2378 Posts

August 31 2009 03:51 GMT

#267

Hm.. wow.

lazz

Australia3119 Posts

August 31 2009 03:52 GMT

#268

Oh. Wow.

SwEEt[TearS]

Canada1575 Posts

August 31 2009 03:53 GMT

#269

noooo clazz t_t
sc is pretty srs business

why hack ffs

Toxic

Canada233 Posts

August 31 2009 03:55 GMT

#270

On August 31 2009 09:53 Sharp-eYe wrote:

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im preparing for the biggest update to the baned thread ever!

btw.. mG.LoptO?????? wow... i never would have thought an mG member would be caught hacking...

This kind of makes me die a little inside

, i really thought all of our players were clean.

Deleted User 30223

3104 Posts

August 31 2009 03:55 GMT

#271

LOL. OUR OWN CLAZZIQUAI.

edit:

ok. after reading thread:

still a little disappointed at the reason, but at least you manned up. but still. frown face for you. :[

it's really a shame. who's gonna organize our tourneys now? you were a cool guy.

zergnewb

United States816 Posts

August 31 2009 03:57 GMT

#272

Wth. Mori600? Thats my friend. No wonder he couldn't log into it. And no he isn't a hacker. Just some odd problem with his launcher then kept dcing him from b.net because of a memory problem every game.

Edit: Clazz?

Purind

Canada3562 Posts

August 31 2009 03:57 GMT

#273

On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:

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And the WHOLE POINT of the original post you quoted is that that's not being honest. The point was that clazz wasn't being honest, he was just owning up after he got caught and that an honest person either wouldn't hack in the first place, or would own up before getting caught

Then you started talking about how noone ever fesses up before getting caught, which is a completely different from what was originally said and in no way refutes the point that you were arguing against

OneOther

United States10774 Posts

August 31 2009 04:02 GMT

#274

On August 31 2009 12:50 AuraCoMO wrote:

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On August 31 2009 12:44 Khol wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:18 Jumperer wrote:
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All I want to know is, who is "Tad". Bragging about your f list is pretty fucking said, expecially if you're no where near their skill level.

lol yelloh how pathetic. never took him as that kind of person.

clazz wtf

SkepTicAL

Canada872 Posts

August 31 2009 04:03 GMT

#275

lol @ spades. And to clear ret's thing like aura said, the acc was given to him to play 3-4 games while lzgamer and myself casted it. After that(and i guess before that) he never used that account.

aeroH

United States1034 Posts

August 31 2009 04:04 GMT

#276

clazz i wanted more cs scrims

YPang

United States4024 Posts

August 31 2009 04:11 GMT

#277

On August 31 2009 12:57 Purind wrote:

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Let me summarize my point

I meant to say Things like Hacking in a game, we naturally do not possess the guilt to confess such things before getting caught. Guilts such as killing, ruining lives, we do. Again, its similar to cheating on a test. MOST do not confess of chaeting unless they are suspected or caught.

So what im getting to is, i believe its VERY unlikely that a person will confess before he is highly suspected or caught.

Masamune

Canada3401 Posts

August 31 2009 04:12 GMT

#278

On August 31 2009 12:49 YPang wrote:

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On August 31 2009 12:46 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:43 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:35 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:

That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked.

Clazz

On August 31 2009 12:15 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:13 IdrA wrote:

On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:
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That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked.

Clazz

Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong?

If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for.

If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again.

how does it take balls to admit to something after getting caught

he's not technically caught, just suspected. If it was spades, or much he'd still be denying no?

no no, your posts are dumb. I suggest you read the thread over again. Clazz already admitted that he hacked, it's not just a suspicion.

iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects

I would go on with this, but i feel like you're not using reasoning but trying to compete with my ego. So i'll let it go, good day sir.

Your lucky your English is that bad because no one can really tell what the hell you were originally trying to say. In your earlier posts, you were going on about how some people have less regard for some things than others and that if it's serious enough or they feel really guilty about it, they will admit it--and that Clazz probably didn't see it as something as bad so he didn't admit to it right away...I have no clue, it was totally off topic and some jumbled bullshit from your head.

Anyway....forget that. Onto what you're saying now. Clazz admitting he hacked after a list of suspected hackers came out as opposed to a confirmed list. There is a difference, yes, but to me, there's not much of a significant one. We KNOW that he did use hacks because he already admitted it and someone else said he even told him about it. Either he could have denied it now, and looked worse later when they somehow finalized it (because he did do it, it's only a matter of time before he would be caught), or he could just admit it now. He chose to admit it now. Simple as that. People have different personalities. Some people are scared of what can potentially happen when they do something wrong and run, others give up because they see there is no escaping. It's really based on the person, and I don't think admitting something after your either 99% caught or 100% caught makes a difference. This is just some trivial bs you're rambling on about because you want Clazz to stay.

For the record, I didn't know Clazz before this happened so I'm not completely affected by this and not that emotionally attached. If he comes back, fine, if not whatever. But if I were in that tl tourny he hacked in and if it affected my outcome, I wouldn't be pleased.

d(O.o)a

Canada5066 Posts

August 31 2009 04:13 GMT

#279

Hacking is the murder of Starcraft

Masamune

Canada3401 Posts

August 31 2009 04:17 GMT

#280

On August 31 2009 13:11 YPang wrote:

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On August 31 2009 12:57 Purind wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:

On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:

On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:

It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing.

That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked.

Clazz

That's actually dependent on the person and shows why you don't seem to a have a grasp of reality. Everyone has their own moral standard. Everyone has a different perspective on what doing something wrong means and how bad they will feel about it to confess their doings. Some people feel very guilty about cheating in tournaments, where people have trained long and hard for, and therefore don't do it. Just like some people feel bad about killing people and don't do it. Others may not feel as bad and will cheat in tournaments because "it's just a game" or kill people because "they deserved it".

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