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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
can't believe this skryoo1004 asshole has the nerve to stream.
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On August 31 2009 10:08 Louder wrote:
WOW I've always been suspicious of Vasilisk... and Evets has been caught a million times. WOopty doo.
I knew I'd see a post like this as I read through the thread, just like people saying I KNEW THATS WHY I LOST 16 GAMES when it was revealed the ICCUP hack was out. Unfortunately for you, unless they hacked against you in the last whatever weeks then they probably weren't hacking before, when the AH was not breached or whatever. Same with other people being like "OH HE WAS HACKING EVERY TIME I BEAT HIM? LOL." No, probably not.
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On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:On August 31 2009 10:11 clazziquai wrote:
I am going to be 100% honest: I did use the ICCUP Killer hack after I hit C.
I know I shouldn't have.
I wanted C+ pretty badly and I tried to get it the easy way =\
It's all my fault though so I apologize if I have offended anyone in any way. It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing. So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't. It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do. That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked. Clazz  Yes, this is only the case if someone did something that he KNEW he 100% shouldn't of, most of the time only do people confess themselves is when they've commited a murder, or hurt an entire family. Hacking on a game, i believe is similar to cheating on a test, or lying to a friend, these are the things that you probably won't randomly confess until you are highly suspected ( even in this case iccup's list is not an official list of hackers, ONLY highly suspicious, and thats when clazziquai admitted that he was hacking). The guilt would NEVER be big enough for someone to go up and confess like that. EDIT: if you hacked like a mofo in a money tournament and WON it, its different.
Yeah, I understand your point.
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I've been Clazz's friend in real life for a really long time, and I can assure everyone that this is the first time that he has ever hacked. And I'm partly to blame - he actually asked me whether or not he should try map hacking. I should have given him a clear no, but instead I said "lol, i dunno" like the idiot I am. I know that TL has a zero tolerance policy for hackers, but Clazz really isn't some perpetual hacker that deserves to be permanently banned. It was a momentarily lapse in judgment. He saw an easier road and took it, temporarily oblivious to future consequences. Don't we all make such mistakes? Clazz was a dedicated poster on TL; his love for this community was immense - kicking him out for a such a silly, stupid mistake is unfair. In the end, how will Clazz's banishment benefit the community? Indeed, I realize that making an exception for one hacker opens the floodgates for other cheaters. But Clazz is different! - he really is sorry, and he's willing to make up to the community for his actions. And obviously he has learned his lesson and will never ever hack again.
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Jaedong returns, but Clazziquai and many others leave forever...
Most eDrama I have ever experienced.
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On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:On August 31 2009 10:11 clazziquai wrote:
I am going to be 100% honest: I did use the ICCUP Killer hack after I hit C.
I know I shouldn't have.
I wanted C+ pretty badly and I tried to get it the easy way =\
It's all my fault though so I apologize if I have offended anyone in any way. It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing. So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't. It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do. That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked. Clazz Yes, this is only the case if someone did something that he KNEW he 100% shouldn't of, most of the time only do people confess themselves is when they've commited a murder, or hurt an entire family. Hacking on a game, i believe is similar to cheating on a test, or lying to a friend, these are the things that you probably won't randomly confess until you are highly suspected ( even in this case iccup's list is not an official list of hackers, ONLY highly suspicious, and thats when clazziquai admitted that he was hacking). The guilt would NEVER be big enough for someone to go up and confess like that. EDIT: if you hacked like a mofo in a money tournament and WON it, its different.
God this post is so dumb. Hacking is 100% wrong, so is murder and everything else bad. Some are worse than others, but in a perfect would they wouldn't exist. If you can convince yourself that hacking is only 90% wrong (I don't know why I'm using these dumb percentages, I think I'm just trying to respond to your post..) you deserve to face the consequences.
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I also love how unk said that the process is not 100% foolproof but people are like FUCK YOU HACKING PIECE OF SHIT if anyone says it's wrong, whereas if unk does anything else really everyone says FUCK YOU UNK YOU SUCK. You condemn him banning every single person from a city with a few hackers but not categorical banning of everyone with an "acceptable" margin of error. He even says in the ICCUP post "we could be wrong but its unlikely, but we aren't going to check."
Especially when you have TL people posting that they haven't even been playing on accounts that got listed or saying they don't hack but their akas are on there, or the accused offering to give ALL their replays.
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Belgium9950 Posts
On August 31 2009 12:00 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
I also love how unk said that the process is not 100% foolproof but people are like FUCK YOU HACKING PIECE OF SHIT if anyone says it's wrong, whereas if unk does anything else really everyone says FUCK YOU UNK YOU SUCK. You condemn him banning every single person from a city with a few hackers but not categorical banning of everyone with an "acceptable" margin of error. He even says in the ICCUP post "we could be wrong but its unlikely, but we aren't going to check."
Especially when you have TL people posting that they haven't even been playing on accounts that got listed or saying they don't hack but their akas are on there, or the accused offering to give ALL their replays.
It detects the iccup hack that makes people be able to load anything.
You could use the anti-antihack and not use a maphack. But if you're caught, you're def. using that anti-antihack which is reason enough to assume it's a hacker.
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definitely not fool proof
one of those ids belongs to a semi pro who practices in the cj house
so unless he was sharing the account or something these can be suspect
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why the hell.
why would you hack
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On August 31 2009 12:04 IdrA wrote:
definitely not fool proof
one of those ids belongs to a semi pro who practices in the cj house
so unless he was sharing the account or something these can be suspect
The plot thickens ...
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Makes me so sad ppl need to hack at all. I mean playing SC on Iccup is to challenge yourself to get better with everyones challenge. I can't see anyone getting satisfaction from hacking to win as winning by your own skills is so fulfilling.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On August 31 2009 12:04 IdrA wrote:
definitely not fool proof
one of those ids belongs to a semi pro who practices in the cj house
so unless he was sharing the account or something these can be suspect
Yeah I agree, no way they could of done this without anyone knowing and made no mistakes..
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On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:On August 31 2009 10:11 clazziquai wrote:
I am going to be 100% honest: I did use the ICCUP Killer hack after I hit C.
I know I shouldn't have.
I wanted C+ pretty badly and I tried to get it the easy way =\
It's all my fault though so I apologize if I have offended anyone in any way. It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing. So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't. It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do. That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked. Clazz Yes, this is only the case if someone did something that he KNEW he 100% shouldn't of, most of the time only do people confess themselves is when they've commited a murder, or hurt an entire family. Hacking on a game, i believe is similar to cheating on a test, or lying to a friend, these are the things that you probably won't randomly confess until you are highly suspected ( even in this case iccup's list is not an official list of hackers, ONLY highly suspicious, and thats when clazziquai admitted that he was hacking). The guilt would NEVER be big enough for someone to go up and confess like that. EDIT: if you hacked like a mofo in a money tournament and WON it, its different. God this post is so dumb. Hacking is 100% wrong, so is murder and everything else bad. Some are worse than others, but in a perfect would they wouldn't exist. If you can convince yourself that hacking is only 90% wrong (I don't know why I'm using these dumb percentages, I think I'm just trying to respond to your post..) you deserve to face the consequences.
Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong?
If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, and permanent ban punishment i believe is too harsh, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for.
If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again.
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On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:On August 31 2009 10:11 clazziquai wrote:
I am going to be 100% honest: I did use the ICCUP Killer hack after I hit C.
I know I shouldn't have.
I wanted C+ pretty badly and I tried to get it the easy way =\
It's all my fault though so I apologize if I have offended anyone in any way. It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing. So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't. It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do. That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked. Clazz Yes, this is only the case if someone did something that he KNEW he 100% shouldn't of, most of the time only do people confess themselves is when they've commited a murder, or hurt an entire family. Hacking on a game, i believe is similar to cheating on a test, or lying to a friend, these are the things that you probably won't randomly confess until you are highly suspected ( even in this case iccup's list is not an official list of hackers, ONLY highly suspicious, and thats when clazziquai admitted that he was hacking). The guilt would NEVER be big enough for someone to go up and confess like that. EDIT: if you hacked like a mofo in a money tournament and WON it, its different. God this post is so dumb. Hacking is 100% wrong, so is murder and everything else bad. Some are worse than others, but in a perfect would they wouldn't exist. If you can convince yourself that hacking is only 90% wrong (I don't know why I'm using these dumb percentages, I think I'm just trying to respond to your post..) you deserve to face the consequences. Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong? If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for. If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again.
how does it take balls to admit to something after getting caught
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On August 31 2009 12:13 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:On August 31 2009 10:11 clazziquai wrote:
I am going to be 100% honest: I did use the ICCUP Killer hack after I hit C.
I know I shouldn't have.
I wanted C+ pretty badly and I tried to get it the easy way =\
It's all my fault though so I apologize if I have offended anyone in any way. It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing. So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't. It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do. That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked. Clazz Yes, this is only the case if someone did something that he KNEW he 100% shouldn't of, most of the time only do people confess themselves is when they've commited a murder, or hurt an entire family. Hacking on a game, i believe is similar to cheating on a test, or lying to a friend, these are the things that you probably won't randomly confess until you are highly suspected ( even in this case iccup's list is not an official list of hackers, ONLY highly suspicious, and thats when clazziquai admitted that he was hacking). The guilt would NEVER be big enough for someone to go up and confess like that. EDIT: if you hacked like a mofo in a money tournament and WON it, its different. God this post is so dumb. Hacking is 100% wrong, so is murder and everything else bad. Some are worse than others, but in a perfect would they wouldn't exist. If you can convince yourself that hacking is only 90% wrong (I don't know why I'm using these dumb percentages, I think I'm just trying to respond to your post..) you deserve to face the consequences. Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong? If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for. If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again. how does it take balls to admit to something after getting caught
he's not technically caught, just suspected. If it was spades, or much he'd still be denying no?
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Osaka27174 Posts
On August 31 2009 12:04 IdrA wrote:
definitely not fool proof
one of those ids belongs to a semi pro who practices in the cj house
so unless he was sharing the account or something these can be suspect
The check determines if he is using another program, and that program could be anything from a hack to an apm counter. You might want to ask him if he is using any other program.
Or maybe he is a hacker too.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:On August 31 2009 10:11 clazziquai wrote:
I am going to be 100% honest: I did use the ICCUP Killer hack after I hit C.
I know I shouldn't have.
I wanted C+ pretty badly and I tried to get it the easy way =\
It's all my fault though so I apologize if I have offended anyone in any way. It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing. So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't. It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do. That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked. Clazz Yes, this is only the case if someone did something that he KNEW he 100% shouldn't of, most of the time only do people confess themselves is when they've commited a murder, or hurt an entire family. Hacking on a game, i believe is similar to cheating on a test, or lying to a friend, these are the things that you probably won't randomly confess until you are highly suspected ( even in this case iccup's list is not an official list of hackers, ONLY highly suspicious, and thats when clazziquai admitted that he was hacking). The guilt would NEVER be big enough for someone to go up and confess like that. EDIT: if you hacked like a mofo in a money tournament and WON it, its different. God this post is so dumb. Hacking is 100% wrong, so is murder and everything else bad. Some are worse than others, but in a perfect would they wouldn't exist. If you can convince yourself that hacking is only 90% wrong (I don't know why I'm using these dumb percentages, I think I'm just trying to respond to your post..) you deserve to face the consequences. Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong? If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, and permanent ban punishment i believe is too harsh, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for.
If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again.
So hacking is not serious and apologizing when you already know your fucked is a hard thing to do?
On August 31 2009 12:15 YPang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 12:13 IdrA wrote:On August 31 2009 12:12 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 11:59 Masamune wrote:On August 31 2009 11:47 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 11:42 sixghost wrote:On August 31 2009 11:26 YPang wrote:On August 31 2009 10:27 Kwark wrote:On August 31 2009 10:11 clazziquai wrote:
I am going to be 100% honest: I did use the ICCUP Killer hack after I hit C.
I know I shouldn't have.
I wanted C+ pretty badly and I tried to get it the easy way =\
It's all my fault though so I apologize if I have offended anyone in any way. It's not being honest if you own up after you've been caught. That's damage limitation. Honesty is not doing it. Getting outed then saying sorry counts for nothing. So what you expect hackers to do? Come out on a random day and create a thread and apologize for hacking randomly? of course no one is gonna do that. Have you EVER seen anyone do something like that, confessing before they were caught? I haven't. It's sorta like cheating on a test, you did it once cuz you were tempted, and then felt guilty about it. But MOST LIKELY you're not going to go up to the class and confess that you cheated, you'll just have the guilt inside. And when someone catches you cheating, you'll have to apologize and thats the best you can do. That's the point. If he was really sorry about it he would have admitted it before he was outed. He's just sorry he got caught, not that he hacked. Clazz Yes, this is only the case if someone did something that he KNEW he 100% shouldn't of, most of the time only do people confess themselves is when they've commited a murder, or hurt an entire family. Hacking on a game, i believe is similar to cheating on a test, or lying to a friend, these are the things that you probably won't randomly confess until you are highly suspected ( even in this case iccup's list is not an official list of hackers, ONLY highly suspicious, and thats when clazziquai admitted that he was hacking). The guilt would NEVER be big enough for someone to go up and confess like that. EDIT: if you hacked like a mofo in a money tournament and WON it, its different. God this post is so dumb. Hacking is 100% wrong, so is murder and everything else bad. Some are worse than others, but in a perfect would they wouldn't exist. If you can convince yourself that hacking is only 90% wrong (I don't know why I'm using these dumb percentages, I think I'm just trying to respond to your post..) you deserve to face the consequences. Its not dumb, if you would read my entire posts prior to this you'd know that i was responding to kwark's comment of people confessing before they're caught hacking. And when have i said its only 90% wrong, or not totally wrong? If you were to confess for everyone of your sins/wrong doings, you'd be doing it for 5 hours a day. A lot of mistakes people make are just not big enough for them to have enough guilt to confess like that, especially to a community they've spent COUNTLESSS HOURS ON. I do believe clazz should be punished, but not Permanetly banned. Plus as a said earlier, iccup's hack list is NOT official, but only suspects. CLazziqual had the balls to admit at that time (unlike Much) which i give him mad props for. If you're going to respond to this post, i suggest you read this thread more thoroughly before you make a fool out of yourself. Again. how does it take balls to admit to something after getting caught he's not technically caught, just suspected. If it was spades, or much he'd still be denying no?
ROFL shutup with that technically bullshit, the list doesn't lie, stop defending him.
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