• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:41
CEST 11:41
KST 18:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou16Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four0BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET6Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)80
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (March 17-23): Clem Bounces Back DreamHack Open 2013 revealed The New Patch Killed Mech!
Tourneys
$1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 INu's Battles #13 - ByuN vs Zoun Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
Is there anyway to get a private coach? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 21 OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
300$ 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup #4 [ASL20] Semifinal B Azhi's Colosseum - Anonymous Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta Roaring Currents ASL final [I] Funny Protoss Builds/Strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
The Heroism of Pepe the Fro…
Peanutsc
Rocket League: Traits, Abili…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1085 users

[Map] Phaeton - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
August 26 2009 12:39 GMT
#21
Mech is strong
Protoss can FE but it's risky
Zerg overall quite strong
POGGERS
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 14:01:51
August 26 2009 14:00 GMT
#22
There is no way to block the ramp and the choke at the natural is quite wide so 9 pool with gas versus everything should be pretty damn strong, especially if you and your opponent spawn on the same side (east or west)
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
August 26 2009 14:05 GMT
#23
Reminds me of Gaia. ZvT and PvT seem impossible if you spawn vertical.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
August 26 2009 14:37 GMT
#24
for some reason i really like the way that this maps looks. It looks like a lot of fun to play. Personally i love the tree mechanic and the vision mechanic that this map seems to offer. And because i player zerg, the apparent zerg > all trend is fine with me ^^
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 14:44:43
August 26 2009 14:40 GMT
#25
On August 25 2009 18:33 Alur wrote:
You're making a remake of it as a BW map aren't you?


Saw it coming!
Good job on the map though.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 26 2009 14:46 GMT
#26
looks awesome, thanks
In the woods, there lurks..
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
August 26 2009 14:53 GMT
#27
Looks like the only issue is the wide ramps? I admit that as a Z, I had a much easier time because of the ramp.
POGGERS
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
August 26 2009 15:01 GMT
#28
Have you thought of getting a lower layer of terrain so you could put a ramp out of the nat as well?

As for the watchtowers, they don't really offer that much of vision, perhaps include triggers to make them work in UMS?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
August 26 2009 15:05 GMT
#29
On August 27 2009 00:01 Nikoner wrote:
Have you thought of getting a lower layer of terrain so you could put a ramp out of the nat as well?

As for the watchtowers, they don't really offer that much of vision, perhaps include triggers to make them work in UMS?

That's why I tried making the map using other tilesets (twilight and jungle) but it was rather impossible to make the reverse ramps, as well as a few other issues.

Yeah I'm considering implementing that feature, making this a UMS-map (if you want the watchtower feature)
POGGERS
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 15:21:06
August 26 2009 15:12 GMT
#30
Not being able to add a second ramp is a bummer, but that's because of how SC2 has advanced I guess. Since it's not possible to make a full conversion in melee, UMS is something that should be considered IMO Entirely up to you tho.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 26 2009 15:33 GMT
#31
On August 26 2009 23:53 konadora wrote:
Looks like the only issue is the wide ramps? I admit that as a Z, I had a much easier time because of the ramp.


Either that or make the choke at the natural smaller
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
August 26 2009 15:41 GMT
#32
Hmm the trigger seems a bit hard

Players:
All Players

Conditions:
Current Player brings at least 1 [any unit] to 'Location 0'.

Actions:
Give All Map Revealer owned by Neutral at 'Location 1' to Current Player.
Preserve trigger.

And the reverse for removing vision

But doesn't seem to work =/
POGGERS
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 15:51:55
August 26 2009 15:47 GMT
#33
Edit: Nevermind, didn't work either.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
August 26 2009 15:52 GMT
#34
doesnt work
POGGERS
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 26 2009 15:57 GMT
#35
That map looks horribly unbalanced. Easy 3rd expo for Terran, difficult micro for Zerg due to obstacles in middle
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 26 2009 16:01 GMT
#36
yeah the map is good.
#1 olleh KT 팬 http://sports.kt.com/ | #1 김택용 선수 팬 | 좋은 선수: 송병구, 이제동, 도제욱, 정명훈, 이성은 | KeSPA 한국 e-Sports 협회
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
August 26 2009 16:05 GMT
#37
On August 27 2009 00:57 AzureEye wrote:
That map looks horribly unbalanced. Easy 3rd expo for Terran, difficult micro for Zerg due to obstacles in middle

On August 26 2009 19:07 konadora wrote:
Btw take note that this was a 2v2 map during Blizzcon

POGGERS
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
August 26 2009 16:17 GMT
#38
Got it to work, want me to PM you the triggers or should I just post them here?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
August 26 2009 16:31 GMT
#39
Just post lol
POGGERS
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 16:58:03
August 26 2009 16:45 GMT
#40
OK, but it's really rough and possibly can be improved. It requires you to draw some additional zones around the watchtower that box. All trigers are for all players.

Conditions:
Always

Actions:
Set "Switch 1"
---
Conditions:
Current player brings at least 1 [Any unit] to Location 1.
Current player commands the most [Any unit] at Location 1.
"Switch 1" is set.

Actions:
Give all Map Revealer owned by Neutral at Location 255 to Current Player.
Clear "Switch 1"
Set "Switch 2"
Preserve trigger.
---
Conditions:
Current player brings at least 1 [Any unit] to Location 2. {ie, right outside the watchtower thingy}
"Switch 2" is set.

Actions:
Give all Map Revealer owned by Current Player at Location 255 to Neutral.
Clear "Switch 2"
Set "Switch 1"
Preserve trigger.

Should allow for players to "steal" control from their opponent if they bring more units as well - not sure if that's how the watchtowers work in SC2 tho. You may also need multiple copies of some of the triggers.

Edit: Oops, sorry.
Edit edit: I am an idiot. Should work now.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 205
SortOf 168
mcanning 63
StarCraft: Brood War
hero 1802
Flash 732
firebathero 417
GuemChi 359
Killer 339
Leta 259
Mini 188
Hyun 182
PianO 142
Soma 126
[ Show more ]
ZerO 107
ToSsGirL 76
Aegong 29
Free 25
Sacsri 15
Sharp 15
Rush 7
Bale 5
Mong 1
Dota 2
XaKoH 401
XcaliburYe169
canceldota73
League of Legends
JimRising 578
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1468
shoxiejesuss770
Stewie2K299
Other Games
summit1g7647
singsing798
ceh9571
B2W.Neo380
Hui .150
Mew2King56
Trikslyr13
ZerO(Twitch)6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick612
Counter-Strike
PGL270
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• iopq 0
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV507
League of Legends
• Jankos1812
• Lourlo755
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
19m
OSC
6h 19m
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
13h 19m
The PondCast
1d
OSC
1d 2h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Online Event
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.