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l10f
United States3241 Posts
I ended up doing all three interviews =]
WCG Korean Qualifiers Ro16 winner Bisu: "I want to win the gold medal"
- Thoughts about making it to Ro8 ▲ It was vacation season so I couldn't practice that much so I didn't expect much. I won so I want to try to get to Ro4 too.
- Your opponent was Free ▲ I was relieved it was PvP. I have to prepare a lot when it's vs T or Z and it takes a lot of time but since the maps weren't played in proleague that much I could prepare a lot of different builds for PvP.
- The games went very well ▲ I did my usual but I think Free-hyung made some mistakes. 2nd game was build order win and 3rd game I killed the shuttle-reaver. I was lucky too so I won without much hardship.
- I heard it was vacation period ▲ I went home and I did many things outside of SC so I couldn't rest much.
- You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up.
- Thoughts about becoming the Korean rep for WCG ▲ I would have liked it if it was held somewhere else but I'm disappointed that it's held in China. I have bad memories with last year's IEF but I just want to win the gold medal.
- Anything you want to say ▲ I don't have any other individual leagues so I will prepare hard for next week's games. I want to play well in the last league I have (WCG).
Source: Fomos.kr + Show Spoiler +- 8강 진출 소감은 ▲ 휴가 기간이기도 하고 연습도 많이 못했기 때문에 그렇게 큰 기대는 하지 않았다. 이겼으니까 4강에 도전해 보고 싶다.
- 상대가 윤용태였는데 ▲ 그나마 프로토스전이라서 다행이라고 생각했다. 다른 종족과 할 때는 준비할 것이 많고 시간이 많이 걸리는데 동족전의 경우는 프로리그에서 많이 안했던 맵들이라서 준비된 빌드가 많이 있었다.
- 경기가 잘 풀린 것 같은데 ▲ 평소대로 한 것 같은데 용태형이 실수를 좀 한 것 같다. 2경기는 빌드가 맞물렸고 3경기에서는 셔틀리버를 잡아서 그 순간 이겼다고 생각했다. 운도 좀 따라서 어렵지 않게 이긴 것 같다.
- 휴가기간이라고 들었는데 ▲ 집에도 갔다 오고 게임 외적으로 많은 일들이 있어서 푹 쉬지는 못했다.
- 김정우 대 이영호의 승자와 붙게 됐는데 ▲ 둘 다 힘든 상대다. 맵들을 보면 테란이나 저그나 크게 차이가 없다. 누가 올라 오더라도 힘든 싸움이 될 것 같다.
- 국가대표가 되고 싶은 생각은 ▲ 다른 나라였으면 더 좋았을 텐데 중국이라서 조금 아쉽다. 작년에 IEF에 갔다 온 경험도 있고 조금 꺼림칙하긴 하지만 그런 것들을 떠나서 금메달을 따고 싶기도 하다.
- 하고 싶은 말이 있다면 ▲ 다른 개인리그 일정도 없기 때문에 다음 주에 있을 경기도 열심히 준비해서 마지막 남은 리그에서 좋은 모습 보여 드리겠다.
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Bisu did not play in WCG last year.. right? Someone explain?
I'm not chinese, but whats wrong with China?
Pretty short interview.
GO BISU!
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I thought Bisu won last year's IEF. He beat Savior and Stork.
On August 20 2009 04:16 Sharp-eYe wrote: Bisu did not play in WCG last year.. right? Someone explain?
I'm not chinese, but whats wrong with China?
Pretty short interview.
GO BISU! He lost to fOrGG.
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51446 Posts
China is pretty boring if you've already been (compared to somewhere say in Europe), which is why Bisu said he'd prefer if it were at another venue.
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On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu...
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On August 20 2009 06:41 GTR wrote: China is pretty boring if you've already been (compared to somewhere say in Europe), which is why Bisu said he'd prefer if it were at another venue.
I don't know about that, with the many different cultural groups in china, its much more diverse than europe. The only reason why I can see its boring or bad is because of its similar to korea or because of the los angeles level air pollution.
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i wish you goodluck bisu! and those were entertaining games
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 20 2009 06:41 GTR wrote: China is pretty boring if you've already been (compared to somewhere say in Europe), which is why Bisu said he'd prefer if it were at another venue. Wasn't there some problems last IEF, like really cold booths etc...? Or am I confusing this with the WC3L finals which were held in uh....... Chengdu -.-? That's the name that pops into my head but could be completely wrong.
Anyway, I heard someone say once that "...Not even the chinese players like to play in China", I think in reference to some specific arena actually.
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On August 20 2009 06:45 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu... Oh my god, if Bisu predicts a win, people call him arrogant, and if Bisu says one sentence about maps, hes whining about maps.
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On August 20 2009 06:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 06:41 GTR wrote: China is pretty boring if you've already been (compared to somewhere say in Europe), which is why Bisu said he'd prefer if it were at another venue. Wasn't there some problems last IEF, like really cold booths etc...? Or am I confusing this with the WC3L finals which were held in uh....... Chengdu -.-? That's the name that pops into my head but could be completely wrong. Anyway, I heard someone say once that "...Not even the chinese players like to play in China", I think in reference to some specific arena actually.
cold booth problem was in PGL imo
for professionalism PGL > IEF
but IEF got more money put in.
IEF is organized by Chinese and Korean government, IEF2006 was held in Korea, last year it was held in China, this year this will be hold in Suwon Korea.
anyways IEF organizers dont know a shit about esport, they dont really care about players/fans, what they care is money and business and maybe even politics, you know... for example last year during IEF2008 MBC made some relationship with Chinese local TV-station.
I'm very sad that bisu said he doesnt like China, but im not surprised, at all.
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On August 20 2009 07:32 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 06:45 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu... Oh my god, if Bisu predicts a win, people call him arrogant, and if Bisu says one sentence about maps, hes whining about maps.
Yup, but if JD says he'll make it the week of JD, we just agree.
<3 TL, lol.
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On August 20 2009 06:45 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu... I can't believe people are still whining about Bisu "whining".
Get over it, he's telling the truth as it is.
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Keep it comming Bisu! hope you will win the gold medal
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So kind of off topic but WCG2009 will be definitely better, at least what my friend(a guy who works for WCG China) promised to me. Because WCG is organized by ICM & Samsung, not China =_=
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
his china comment made me lol also he called someone a hyung :o
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On August 20 2009 07:53 Kentor wrote: his china comment made me lol also he called someone a hyung :o So?
Hyung is a term of respect used for older players. Free is older than him.
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On August 20 2009 07:56 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 07:53 Kentor wrote: his china comment made me lol also he called someone a hyung :o So? Hyung is a term of respect used for older players. Free is older than him.
Hyung is used by a male when addressing or talking about another a male that's older than they are. For a player to call another player a hyung, they have to be somewhat close. If they aren't close, they would probably say "sunsoo" which is a title that means "player" and include the player's last name.
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bisu hates china. i wonder why. it's not the multitudes of people, since seoul is like that too.
pollution? he'll be indoors.
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Tx for the translation.
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BISU BISU!!!!!
lets all get our beesuits on!
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On August 20 2009 06:45 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu... but he is telling the truth...
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he cant really whine about the players cas inside he knows he'll win either way. the only thing thats left to complain about are the maps =P
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Meh, I don't care if players whine about maps as long as they don't do it after they lose or it's the first thing they cite about why they lost.
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On August 20 2009 07:32 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 06:45 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu... Oh my god, if Bisu predicts a win, people call him arrogant, and if Bisu says one sentence about maps, hes whining about maps. Of course if it was one sentence in one interview, it'd be ok. But one sentence in every single interview?
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On August 20 2009 09:41 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 07:32 Sentenal wrote:On August 20 2009 06:45 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu... Oh my god, if Bisu predicts a win, people call him arrogant, and if Bisu says one sentence about maps, hes whining about maps. Of course if it was one sentence in one interview, it'd be ok. But one sentence in every single interview? ok what interviews are you reading?
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On August 20 2009 08:39 29 fps wrote: bisu hates china. i wonder why. it's not the multitudes of people, since seoul is like that too.
pollution? he'll be indoors.
Pollution >>>>> Buildings.
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United States12607 Posts
Thanks for all the translation work. Bisu fighting!
I wonder what it was about IEF that made him not so hot on WCG being in China...
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i wonder why he had bad memories in china. is it sc-related or may be not? and he won IEF in china last year, right?
but anywa, good luck bisu. i hope he wins the gold :D
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China3334 Posts
I've seen 4 different versions of this interview translation. Also asked MrHoon and Waxangel about the answer related to China. I don't want to make a judgement who is the most correct. Just let you know, l10f, your translation makes hundreds of Chinese fanboys/patriots mad. Several Chinese BW forums count on TL interview translation for years.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On August 20 2009 11:18 Emlary wrote: I've seen 4 different versions of this interview translation. Also asked MrHoon and Waxangel about the answer related to China. I don't want to make a judgement who is the most correct. Just let you know, l10f, your translation makes hundreds of Chinese fanboys/patriots mad. Several Chinese BW forums count on TL interview translation for years.
Sorry, I didn't mean any harm. I'll keep away and let the more experienced members do these from now.
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China3334 Posts
I know you don't mean it. It's not anyone's fault.
I used to do few translation (Korean-English-Chinese) and found out it lost in translation a lot. Then I stopped doing it. Some mistakes can be really really misleading.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On August 20 2009 06:45 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu... well there has to be a reason that there was only 1 protoss in the quarterfinals of both OSL and MSL...
edit: 2009th post har har har
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On August 20 2009 11:27 Emlary wrote: I know you don't mean it. It's not anyone's fault.
I used to do few translation (Korean-English-Chinese) and found out it lost in translation a lot. Then I stopped doing it. Some mistakes can be really really misleading.
I agree with you, however I don't think that sentence can be translated in any way without the negative connotations about China while keeping its original meaning.
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The only bad map is Outsider. I remember that Bisu said that Carthage 3 and another newish map were bad for zerg way back near the MST time period in an interview.
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Bisu whining about maps again.
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On August 20 2009 11:45 3 Lions wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 06:45 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:On August 20 2009 04:08 l10f wrote: - You'll verse winner of Effort vs Flash ▲ They are both really good. It doesn't matter who comes up because of the maps. It will be hard no matter who comes up. I can't believe he is still whining about the maps. Srsly Bisu... well there has to be a reason that there was only 1 protoss in the quarterfinals of both OSL and MSL... edit: 2009th post har har har
Cuz Savior destroyed all the toss.
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Everyone! Get in your BEESUITS! NOW!
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On August 20 2009 07:34 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 06:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:On August 20 2009 06:41 GTR wrote: China is pretty boring if you've already been (compared to somewhere say in Europe), which is why Bisu said he'd prefer if it were at another venue. Wasn't there some problems last IEF, like really cold booths etc...? Or am I confusing this with the WC3L finals which were held in uh....... Chengdu -.-? That's the name that pops into my head but could be completely wrong. Anyway, I heard someone say once that "...Not even the chinese players like to play in China", I think in reference to some specific arena actually. cold booth problem was in PGL imo
Well it was a problem at PGL, so WC3L decided to "change" their venue to avoid the problem. Then Grubby comes out and says, "Ummm they changed it to the ping pong center, which is in the same building T.T" and everyone played in the cold.
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Thanks for the translation
Why doesnt OP have a star yet?
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IEF 2008 is a holysiht. There's no hot water and no web connetion in the Hotel. And you must know that the temperature at that time in Wuhan is below 0. F*ck those stupid organiser. What they do is just get money for themselves.
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On August 20 2009 06:49 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 06:41 GTR wrote: China is pretty boring if you've already been (compared to somewhere say in Europe), which is why Bisu said he'd prefer if it were at another venue. I don't know about that, with the many different cultural groups in china, its much more diverse than europe. The only reason why I can see its boring or bad is because of its similar to korea or because of the los angeles level air pollution. Except many of them live outside of ordinary society and are vastly outnumbered by Han. Ask Chinese friends if they are Han.
Chengdu does have pandas though.
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On August 20 2009 11:46 l10f wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:27 Emlary wrote: I know you don't mean it. It's not anyone's fault.
I used to do few translation (Korean-English-Chinese) and found out it lost in translation a lot. Then I stopped doing it. Some mistakes can be really really misleading. I agree with you, however I don't think that sentence can be translated in any way without the negative connotations about China while keeping its original meaning.
I don't see a mistake. What l10f wrote was pretty much what bisu said. He can't help it that Bisu's words might hurt some feelings.
다른 나라였으면 더 좋았을 텐데 중국이라서 조금 아쉽다. It would have been better if it were a different country, but it's a bit of a disappointment because it's in china.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
lool ggggggggg bisu doesnt like china o well if he makes it to wcg im happy cuz i can go to chengdu lOLOOLOl
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On August 20 2009 20:45 alffla wrote: lool ggggggggg bisu doesnt like china o well if he makes it to wcg im happy cuz i can go to chengdu lOLOOLOl lololol :D
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
lol weuhhhhhh well i guess sorry for making a post in chinese? -_-;
repost
me : "are u going? [to WCG]" emuxcg : yea depends on schedule etc.
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