• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:47
CET 05:47
KST 13:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool30Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea JaeDong's form before ASL BSL Season 22
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4206 users

Learning Zerg.

Blogs > leejas
Post a Reply
leejas
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States440 Posts
April 28 2009 18:08 GMT
#1
I've been quite the peruser of TL.net over the past two years. Being one of the only decent sites in English about the scene as a whole, I jumped head in to the wealth of strategy and information. That being said, I'd like to note that I play mainly for fun. Yes, I'd love to improve, but if I'm not enjoying the game I play, I might as well do something else.

That being said, I'm currently a low D bordering on D- Zerg.

Things that I have improved on:

-My Zerglings no longer run in a straight line towards doom.

-My building hotkeys actually work

-I've come to understand the strategic mindset with timings and "units with purpose."

The last one has had the most impact on my playstyle.

In both ZvP and ZvT, I've developed a sort of solid mindset of decisions throughout the game.

The primary bulk of damage comes from Zerglings and/or Hydralisks. Based on unit types and the opposing player's choices, you select one to remain the larger portion of your attack force.

Larger, "bulkier units," serve more so as meat shields and support. This isn't to say they don't do any damage, but they will not be doling out the larger portion of it. These units are Guardians (rarely, but still counted), Ultralisks, and Lurkers. They allow tactical ground control.

Other units provide support to control ground. Defilers set up safe zones for a push, devourers soften up air units, scourge deter aerial assaults, and queens (also rarely in play) also shift in to help take ground.

It's with this mindset that I've come to see how to play the game.

At the D-/D level, support units can make a huge difference if used the right way. More often than not, games are won or lost because of the proper use (or lack thereof) of support units. It's at this level that understanding the purpose of each unit comes into play.

However, with a lack of solid mechanics, it's best to first understand what can be done in place of "super micro."

The ultraling combo has won me every game so far. I don't believe it's a "Do this and you win" type of strategy, but I think it's the one thats showed me how to effectively use each unit. I've felt a more confident sense of gameplay now, and coordinating my units doesn't take as much thought.

Still, being 6-17 on IcCup means I've got a long way to go.

h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
April 28 2009 18:13 GMT
#2
Ultralisks are so easy to mass and so easy to micro, just like carriers. :O
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
April 28 2009 18:26 GMT
#3
On April 29 2009 03:13 h3r1n6 wrote:
Ultralisks are so easy to mass and so easy to micro, just like carriers. :O


So wrong. Neither are easy to mass because they both cost a lot. Carriers aren't easy to micro because you need to have good control or else you lose them all and it's gg. Ultras aren't that difficult to micro but they're basically the same difficulty as every protoss unit.
leejas
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States440 Posts
April 28 2009 18:30 GMT
#4
It's not the concept of massing that works. It's "grouping" that I learned.

IE: You can't easily 1a2a3a it to victory. Setting them in the right ratios and groupings helps a lot more.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
April 28 2009 18:40 GMT
#5
On April 29 2009 03:26 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 03:13 h3r1n6 wrote:
Ultralisks are so easy to mass and so easy to micro, just like carriers. :O


So wrong. Neither are easy to mass because they both cost a lot. Carriers aren't easy to micro because you need to have good control or else you lose them all and it's gg. Ultras aren't that difficult to micro but they're basically the same difficulty as every protoss unit.



I am talking about mechanical demand. Clicking your stargates 6 times -> 12 carriers or control selecting 12 larvae and morphing ultras is easy.

And carriers are easy to micro. That is unless the opponent does proper goliath micro, which even then is still harder than the proper carrier micro.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
April 28 2009 18:44 GMT
#6
chill the fuck out

i cant believe people are still complaining about racial imbalances

fuck, learn to deal with it, switch races if you must, else gtfo.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 28 2009 18:57 GMT
#7
no im pretty sure going 1a with 12 ultralisk or microing carriers is pretty easy lol
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
April 28 2009 19:04 GMT
#8
Every half decent player will probably tell there's not enough emphasis in the world to put on how much you need to improve your mechanics. You should throw minimal regard, for the moment, to strategy and timing.

Learn some basic builds inside out, and repeat them into oblivion. Iccup stats is just a number, mere digits that in no way reflect one's true skill.

Only after gaining good mechanics will you be able to learn and play the game at the higher levels (C+), and then the time for strategy and timing will come. Most new players, when succumbing to the frustration of continued losses actually quit the game because their mechanics never allowed them to be on a good starting ground for learning strategy and tactics.


Good luck, I like your mindset and analysis of the Zerg units' purposes
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
April 28 2009 19:10 GMT
#9
ultralisks are the shit, but you won't have as much fun turtling for gas as you will get aggressive with fast defilers
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
April 28 2009 19:37 GMT
#10
The thing about zerg is your economy imo After you mastered that, you can bend zerg to your will
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
April 28 2009 20:06 GMT
#11
On April 29 2009 03:44 EsX_Raptor wrote:
chill the fuck out

i cant believe people are still complaining about racial imbalances

fuck, learn to deal with it, switch races if you must, else gtfo.


Done, now I have 4 times the hitpoints
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
April 28 2009 20:28 GMT
#12
On April 29 2009 05:06 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 03:44 EsX_Raptor wrote:
chill the fuck out

i cant believe people are still complaining about racial imbalances

fuck, learn to deal with it, switch races if you must, else gtfo.


Done, now I have 4 times the hitpoints


Touché.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
April 28 2009 20:35 GMT
#13
On April 29 2009 05:06 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 03:44 EsX_Raptor wrote:
chill the fuck out

i cant believe people are still complaining about racial imbalances

fuck, learn to deal with it, switch races if you must, else gtfo.


Done, now I have 4 times the hitpoints


lol
we have a winner
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 28 2009 20:40 GMT
#14
On April 29 2009 05:06 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 03:44 EsX_Raptor wrote:
chill the fuck out

i cant believe people are still complaining about racial imbalances

fuck, learn to deal with it, switch races if you must, else gtfo.


Done, now I have 4 times the hitpoints

And you just hit B on ICCUP.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 28 2009 21:37 GMT
#15
On April 29 2009 05:40 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 05:06 h3r1n6 wrote:
On April 29 2009 03:44 EsX_Raptor wrote:
chill the fuck out

i cant believe people are still complaining about racial imbalances

fuck, learn to deal with it, switch races if you must, else gtfo.


Done, now I have 4 times the hitpoints

And you just hit B on ICCUP.


with FE PvZ and Proxy gates PvT/PvP ez
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
April 28 2009 21:41 GMT
#16
On April 29 2009 04:37 Racenilatr wrote:
The thing about zerg is your economy imo After you mastered that, you can bend zerg to your will


For me it was more important to do something. Economy is very important but I think " doing something " with your units is more important.
No no no no its not mine!
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
April 28 2009 21:54 GMT
#17
lol
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
April 28 2009 23:33 GMT
#18
The important thing about Zerg is that you have to learn you can't win battles without flanking. Not before defilers anyway.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:00
Best Games of SC
Solar vs ByuN
MaxPax vs Solar
Rogue vs Percival
Cure vs Solar
herO vs Solar
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 268
Nina 176
ProTech128
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 210
Noble 135
Nal_rA 42
Bale 16
sSak 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm213
Other Games
ViBE154
Mew2King48
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick739
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream145
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1466
Other Games
• Scarra517
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
5h 13m
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
15h 13m
Replay Cast
19h 13m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 5h
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
1d 7h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Zoun
WardiTV Team League
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jeongseon Sooper Cup
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.