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Calgary26004 Posts
Goes Down
Why? What does this even mean? I can understand using it to signify creating buildings ("With the Stargate complete we now see that the Fleet Beacon goes down, signifying Carriers"), but why things dying? There's so many better descriptive words to use other than "goes down", but still you hear it used about 100 times a commentary, and often in rapid succession. Actually I hate myself for using this term, and every time I feel myself about to say it I consciously hold it back because it's just bad.
Push
Push is synonymous for leapfrogging. That's how it originated and that's how it's always been used. The standard was the Tank push, and we all know how that looks. You can Tank push, because you siege Tanks and then leapfrog them forward. You can Cannon push, because you build them in a successive fashion. You can Lurker push. You cannot however, Zealot/Archon push. That isn't a push, it's just an attack. So why do I hear about Hydra/Ling pushes? Why is someone doing a Marine push? They aren't! Stop saying it!
Barrack
It's not a word. It's Barracks. Yes, even if there's only one of them.
Irradiate
It's not irridate.
Stasis
It's not status.
Timing Attack
Chances are it's not a timing attack, it's just an attack. There aren't 20 minute ZvT timing attacks, for example. Timing attacks are very specifically designed to kill specific builds when they are their weakest. The +1 2 Archon and Zealot attack is a timing attack. Moving out after you research Psionic Storm is not a timing attack.
Do (verb); Is (verb)ing
I'm not sure why people do this, but it's so annoying.
Instead of saying the perfect sentence "We see that he is making many units", commentators recently are saying "We do see that he is making many units." I suppose this would make sense if the preceding thought was "Is he making a lot of units?" but it never is, that "do" just comes out of nowhere as if to confirm some imaginary suspicion.
Similarly, instead of "We see Nony is making quite a few phoenixes" we have "We are seeing that Nony is making quite a few phoenixes." This may be grammatically correct, but changing everything into the is/are ___ing form makes it sound really awkward.
Protoss Player
Lately commentators are saying "The Protoss player is moving in now!" instead of his ID. I really don't like that and it makes it seem like they aren't aware of who is actually playing.
Verb/Noun Confusion
Harass is a verb. Harassment is a noun.
Expand is a verb. Expansion is a noun.
I'd like to hear which catchphrases bother you, specifically so I can look over the list and improve.
  
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when people say sc-ore-j or zee-lot
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Push implies moving forward, putting pressure, being aggressive. You push...
It doesn't need to be tied mechanically to tanks sieging/unsieging or lurkers burrowing/unburrowing. I seen nothing wrong with that.
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Calgary26004 Posts
On March 14 2009 07:48 PH wrote:
Push implies moving forward, putting pressure, being aggressive. You push...
It doesn't need to be tied mechanically to tanks sieging/unsieging or lurkers burrowing/unburrowing. I seen nothing wrong with that.
In the context of life, sure. In the context of StarCraft, no.
You can say "he's pushing forward" to imply attack and putting pressure; however, a "unit push" does not have the same meaning.
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Canada7170 Posts
zee-lot, mutabal, Chinese triangles.
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the "going down" phrase also bothers me a lot
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Canada9720 Posts
i couldn't agree more about the retarded use of push to shit like moving out with archons and zlots. i don't remember when it first cropped up, but i think i first saw it in TL LR threads.
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but... the 9min push...
my life is over
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On March 14 2009 07:48 PH wrote:
Push implies moving forward, putting pressure, being aggressive. You push...
It doesn't need to be tied mechanically to tanks sieging/unsieging or lurkers burrowing/unburrowing. I seen nothing wrong with that.
You're confusing what "push" means in ordinary English and the technical word "push" in SC.
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i dislike watching By.Stylish VODs where he keeps yawning and telling he just woke up or he is about to go to bed.
And people over using the term "Bisu Build".
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Not really on topic but last cast you said "irregardless" and it drove me insane
Calling every offensive protoss move involving dragoons a bulldog, and then not even knowing the origin of the term (pretty much directed at tasteless but a lot of the unknown casters are guilty as well)
Some casters try to say the player who leaves the game "tapped out" which makes no sense at all. An opponent "typing out" makes sense, if he types GG and leaves it is kind of a unique way of saying he left the game.
But most of all pretty every single caster in the SC community needs to broaden their spoken vocabulary, they use the same descriptive terms every time for every event. I won't say names cause this isn't a critique caster x and y thread it's a general one, some are more guilty than others, but almost none seem to make any effort to vary the way they describe things occurring.
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fantasy build* drives me nuts hearing somone create the worst B.O in history and getting it named after him >_<
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On March 14 2009 08:14 floor exercise wrote:
Some casters try to say the player who leaves the game "tapped out" which makes no sense at all. An opponent "typing out" makes sense, if he types GG and leaves it is kind of a unique way of saying he left the game.
Not sure if you know this, but this originated from wrestling I think where if you're in a submission, you tap the floor (tap out) and lose the match, in other words surrender, in other words "gg-ing".
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"It looks like" is said way too much
if you listen to klazart he says the same stuff over and over again, like "critically" and "audacity"...
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I think saying "goes down" when referring to buildings dying as well is ok, but saying it for units dying is pushing it.
But the thing that drives me crazy while watching these things, is when someone will say something like, "This is gonna be a macro game" or "expect a long game here", if the openings are even the slightest bit economical. As if there is no possible way either of them could end the game in under 10 minutes if someone opened if zerg opens 12hatch vs 1rax cc.
Pointing out colors in non-mirror matchups is odd too.
Also barrack is a word, just not in starcraft.
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On March 14 2009 08:20 PanoRaMa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 08:14 floor exercise wrote:
Some casters try to say the player who leaves the game "tapped out" which makes no sense at all. An opponent "typing out" makes sense, if he types GG and leaves it is kind of a unique way of saying he left the game. Not sure if you know this, but this originated from wrestling I think where if you're in a submission, you tap the floor (tap out) and lose the match, in other words surrender, in other words "gg-ing".
Yeah I'm aware I just think it sounds really dumb when applied to a video game.
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On March 14 2009 08:20 PanoRaMa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 08:14 floor exercise wrote:
Some casters try to say the player who leaves the game "tapped out" which makes no sense at all. An opponent "typing out" makes sense, if he types GG and leaves it is kind of a unique way of saying he left the game. Not sure if you know this, but this originated from wrestling I think where if you're in a submission, you tap the floor (tap out) and lose the match, in other words surrender, in other words "gg-ing".
I always thought it was just people who misheard when they first heard someone say "typing out".
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Baa?21248 Posts
Some mispronunciations make me cringe, but overall, not much bothers me in a commentary.
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On March 14 2009 07:44 Chill wrote:
Stasis
It's not status.
This.
I hate it when people get that wrong.
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