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On March 14 2009 08:13 s.a.y wrote:
i dislike watching By.Stylish VODs where he keeps yawning and telling he just woke up or he is about to go to bed.
And people over using the term "Bisu Build".
thats harsh! i don't say that in every vod!
anyway you're probably a biased zergplayer^^
my vods aren't meant to be funny, only instructional. But whatever..
anyway i kind of disagree with the whole "push" thing..
for example "timing push" is usually applied when terran moves out and sieges up at protoss' third, and doesn't really have to include any leapfrogging..
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Calgary25980 Posts
Have you ever seen someone drive straight up to their target and siege? No? That's why it's a push.
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On March 14 2009 08:40 Chill wrote:
Have you ever seen someone drive straight up to their target and siege? No? That's why it's a push.
well in this example its pretty common that terran moves out as far as he can and when protoss decides to attack you siege up and there is a big clash, if you come out on top you just unsiege and run him over. Doesn't have to involve any leapfrogging..
I think in general the expression is a little more loose nowadays. Doesn't really bother me but i get your point..
You move out or you push out is more or less the same thing now as long as there are units outside your base, maybe i dont think about it that much because english isn't my first language..
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Some dude once asked me how to stop the "20 minute protoss timing attack" in ZvP.
I laughed a bit yeah.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
I miss the good ol days of 8/9 pylon bisubuild predicitons  .
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I agree to an extent, but I think its important to remember a few things here:
First of all, a ton of these commentators are speaking english as a 2nd language. Barrack/Barracks, and mispronouncing some words, aren't that big of a deal. However, they should look into these if they plan on doing commentary.
I also really disagree on the push thing. There's obviously a portion of the community which finds the usage you described quite acceptable. Words, much like starcraft strategies, evolve over time.
The timing attack usage is a pet peave of mine too though. I find it hilarious when two 200/200 armies meet, and the commentator says, "oh, player A is going for a timing attack here." Please haha
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calling every bridge a funnel, or implying it acts as one can get annoying.
the thing that's annoying more than anything, is when a commentator says the same thing over and over again, every single game. it's good to provide information to beginners, but have new stuff prepared to say once in a while.
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"Timing attack" is the worst commentator pet peeve i think. Bisu build also used to be really annoying.
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somthing that kind of anoyed me when you casted tha last liquibition was every time you said somthing like "it's everything but over" when strelok failed a chees strategy isn't the game veary much over at that point? you used this phrase simular ways alot during the whole series and I never realy got it...
Or am I totaly mising somthing here?
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I agree with all of those, but another pet peeve I have (because I'm a mathematician) is the use of the word "exponential". Like "push" common (mis-)usage of the word has kind of degraded its meaning.
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On March 14 2009 09:00 Zerum wrote:
somthing that kind of anoyed me when you casted tha last liquibition was every time you said somthing like "it's everything but over" when strelok failed a chees strategy isn't the game veary much over at that point? you used this phrase simular ways alot during the whole series and I never realy got it...
Or am I totaly mising somthing here?
That's what "it's all but over" means. The game is very much decided but it just hasn't ended yet.
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Actually, barrack is a word... however, it is mostly used in it's plural form, and should be used that way.
Annoying catchphrases include - mispronunciations of "irradiate" and "stasis", excessive use of the phrases "agree completely", "indeed", "concur" (in dual commentary)
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On March 14 2009 07:46 wrags wrote:
when people say sc-ore-j or zee-lot
I hate it when people say zeh-luht (even though it's the correct pronunciation) cause it just seems wrong and people sound like faggots when they say the word, no offense to anyone 
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yes im so happy someone came out and said this. The status instead of stasis thing has pissed me off for so long. A stasis field makes sense, a status field does not. Another thing that pisses me off is when someone commits to an attack and the commentator says there going "all in" when they are not actually going all in at all.
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"Comstat"... Lookin' at your Artosis.
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Also it's maelstrom not maelstorm.
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yeah artosis, irradiate mang, and comsat
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Sydney2287 Posts
On March 14 2009 07:44 Chill wrote:
Timing Attack
Chances are it's not a timing attack, it's just an attack. There aren't 20 minute ZvT timing attacks, for example. Timing attacks are very specifically designed to kill specific builds when they are their weakest. The +1 2 Archon and Zealot attack is a timing attack. Moving out after you research Psionic Storm is not a timing attack.
Thankyou. I'm not the most adept of players but it has always annoyed me when people keep saying it's a <unit combo> timing attack every time a player moves some units around.
Off the top of my head I can't think of any others, would have to watch a few vods again.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Hmm, I think that "goes down" is much more suitable for something being destroyed, as in "tear down", because... well, if you are building something, it intuitevely goes up from the ground, why would it go down?
I think that it sounds weird for most people whose first language is not English.
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