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Well, not really stupid, more of narrow minded actually.
During the start of the semester, she asked us to introduce ourselves and share one thing that we are really interested in, nevertheless, I proudly said that I was into pro-gaming. Actually, the major thing that we will do for this semester is to write an argumentative research paper on our topic, and writing for pro-gaming to be accepted as a sport is really easy. Anyway, one time, our prof asked us to go to the library and look for 10 books for our topic. Fuck. It's not that our library is bad or anything (the school decided to create another library building, wonder what they'll put in there), but I know that there are no fucking books there on pro-gaming or anything that is related to gaming. Well I gave it a shot, the opac gave me books on marketing, finance, and programming. Fuck it. Well, maybe periodical entries can help me. Daebak, I found a whole lot of articles from locally published newspapers about gaming here in our country. So I happily took down those entries so I can go check on them on the microfilm section or something later. I got myself back to the classroom and asked my prof if she'd allow newspaper entries, she said she'd still require me to use books as the major references. What the flying fuck. I understand that I need books for a paper like this, but on a topic so great, ever changing, and greatly overlooked by a country like ours? There's no single book on pro-gaming on this country, because it's not that big of a thing yet for people here to write about it (hell, no one's even published even the history of pro-gaming, well at least in our country I can say that for sure). Well, back to the classroom, I was pretty much pissed for two things, the first being the fact that my professor has a narrow mind, and the second, me, for not being able to speak up at that moment.
So I planned to drop by the department so I can argue with my professor and hopefully, she'll let me use internet resources and periodicals because this greatness called pro-gaming has not yet made its presence felt in our country. Well I have a good number of arguing points and quotes, and most of them were stated above. Actually, the absence of evidence is not the evidence for absence. I think that goes to say that if you can't see books for pro-gaming, it doesn't really go to show that there are no books for it, I'm just looking at the wrong place. And I think that the books that a place holds reflects the things they give a damn about. It's like how language was formed, a certain language would tend to have a whole fuckton of words for a certain aspect of life, well I can give our language as a good example. Plus, its not like that our library has everything....~_~ + Show Spoiler + So I walked into the department, I have lots of free time, fuck it, I'm not setting an appointment with her consultation hours because I have classes and I don't want to cut/late those classes just because of a 10 minute argument with a narrow minded english professor (who ironically is a full time researcher for a publication of some sort). Then ninjas, hundreds, no, fucking thousands of them. My prof wanted to do this the hard way, well no, I haven't really talked to my prof yet, planning to do that on Monday.
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...why don't you pick a different topic?
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
Just pick a normal topic, it will be a hell of a lot easier.
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Yeah I couldn't imagine writing about progaming in an English class- yow.
I hate professors who are obsessed with book sources for these kinds of papers, times have changed, many online publications are just as credible and legit.
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Scholarly journals, yes, but locally published newspapers?
Professors will accept actual journals (even online, from, say, PubMed, or JSTOR), but I don't know a single professor who will accept local newspapers as major sources for a research paper.
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I have had to encounter a similar event, it also in my English class. I took a topic she was not to happy about but I stuck to my guns and it was really satisfying when she was forced to give me a good grade.
In the end its all down to you but it is very satisfying to stick with the topic.
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why do people always pick these topics -_-
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It's hard to write about something I'm barely interested on..
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United States3573 Posts
On July 17 2009 23:48 SilverSkyLark wrote:It's hard to write about something I'm barely interested on..
It's actually really easy if you just pick a topic with endless amounts of sources. If you want to write about things you're interested in switch to an English major and become an author. Otherwise you're in school, you always write about boring shit.
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You're literally interested in nothing but pro-gaming?
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On July 17 2009 23:53 Empyrean wrote: You're literally interested in nothing but pro-gaming? Well, not really....
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Hmmm, can't you use Boxers biography it details a lot about early pro-gaming. There are probably publications about MLG and how that got started also. It isn't as daunting as you might imagine.
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On July 17 2009 23:52 Snet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2009 23:48 SilverSkyLark wrote:It's hard to write about something I'm barely interested on.. It's actually really easy if you just pick a topic with endless amounts of sources. If you want to write about things you're interested in switch to an English major and become an author. Otherwise you're in school, you always write about boring shit. so true......
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Ask your librarian if you can print out Liquipedia and possibly a portion of TLPD and get it bound and put it into a certain appropriate section of the library and then use that.
Make sure to stress the date on the front cover as Liquipedia is obviously evolving every week but I would guarantee you wouldn't be the last one to use the book.
If your teacher isn't a complete fucking moron she will probably see your passion and resourcefulness and also if she spends 5 seconds even looking at how immense Liquipedia isshe may be convinced of the validity of the topic.
Don't listen to these guys saying to choose another topic IMO.
book (bk) n.
1. A set of written, printed, or blank pages fastened along one side and encased between protective covers.
Unless she said a published book she can't say shit and if you do a good job she can't give you a bad grade.
(gogo be a martyr)
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Apparently you're missing the point of being in school: to learn. If you're just going to use crappy unreliable sources there's not a lot of point in your assignment. Just pick another subject that you can do decent research on.
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Of course professors mean published book by a reputable professional or university press.
Trying to slip by a technicality would probably amuse her for a few seconds before she gives you a failing grade.
Honestly. Choose a new topic :/
EDIT: Actually, what's the scope of this paper? What are limits on its length, sources, instructions, etc.? And what school is it for? It's over the summer...are you taking summer classes or something?
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On July 18 2009 00:02 Frits wrote: Apparently you're missing the point of being in school: to learn. If you're just going to use crappy unreliable sources there's not a lot of point in your assignment. Just pick another subject that you can do decent research on.
You can learn English writing about absolutely anything..
Above all the point of being in school is to learn how to learn, far more important than any specific subject.
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If my argument fails, then I'm switching topics....:|
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Honestly I wouldn't even recommend arguing.
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