On July 18 2009 02:20 MiniRoman wrote:
BOXER BOOK DUH.

But obviously you can't just write about Starleague and Korea off the top of your head citing internet forums. It's university bitch, not grade 10 english class

thats what i was going to say, 9 more books to find, gl

Ronald_McD

Canada807 Posts

July 17 2009 18:07 GMT

#42

On July 17 2009 23:56 Aegraen wrote:
Hmmm, can't you use Boxers biography it details a lot about early pro-gaming. There are probably publications about MLG and how that got started also. It isn't as daunting as you might imagine.

This

Boxer's biography has been translated to English, and you can read it somewhere on the internet.
I had it bookmarked I think...

There's probably other books or articles about progaming, try to find ones that are translated or maybe even try to have someone (from TL

) help translate them for you.

Chef

10810 Posts

July 17 2009 18:17 GMT

#43

How is this an English topic? Isn't this Sociology?

I wrote a paper about why E-Sports has succeeded in Korea but did not reach the same success outside of Korea. It's pretty hard to find good sources, but I think I got two or three that weren't newspaper. The class was pretty much a joke tho, so it didn't matter.

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Borland, John, Kanellos, Michael. (2004) “South Korea leads the way.” CNET News Accessed October 27th 2008 <http://news.cnet.com/South-Korea-leads-the- way/2009-1034_3-5261393.html>
[Cable Television Channel Official Channel] Accessed: Oct. 27, 2008 <http://www.ongamenet.com/>
[Cable Television Channel Official Channel] Accessed: Oct. 27, 2008 <http://www.mbcgame.co.kr/>
DreamHack. (2008) “What is DreamHack?” Accessed: November 24th 2008 <http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw08/facts.php?id=8>
Hwan, Lim Yo. (2004) Crazy As Me Accessed: November 24th 2008 <http://boxerbiography.blogspot.com/2006/11/table-of-contents.html>
Lee, Daniel. (2008) “Sep 24, 2008 Nony vs. Dinot.” [English Commentated Game Featuring ex-eStro Coach, Daniel Lee] Accessed: November 24th 2008 <http://scforall.com/sctv/sc_tv01.asp?mNum=s01> under “Tournament”
Marchetti, Nino. (2007) Gaming for Dollars: The Fatal1ty Interview Digital Trends Accessed: Oct. 27, 2008 <http://news.digitaltrends.com/feature/75/gaming-for- dollars-the-fatal1ty-interview>
Patry, Guillaume. (2004) “Living the Dream: Life as a Professional Gamer” Geartest Accessed October 27th 2008 <http://geartest.com/sections/games/professional_gamer.html>
Plott, Nick. (2008) “Jaedong vs Flash - Game 1 [Final Round].” [English Commentary From South Korea by Professional Caster, Nick Plott] Accessed November 24th 2008 <http://www.gomtv.net/videos/249>
Purcell, Craig. (1988) Video-Game Mania: Passing Phase or Permanent Addiction? The New York Times Accessed: October 27th 2008 <http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE6DA103DF932A25751C 1A96E948260>
Schiesel, Seth. (2007) Courts Block Laws on Video Game Violence The New York Times Accessed: October 27th 2008 <http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/21/arts/television/21vide.html>
SKSports. (N.D.) “Players.” [Rooster for a Professional eSports Team] Accessed: November 24th 2008 <http://www.sksports.net/T1/Players/T1Players.asp>
Weemee. (2008) “Once upon a time in America, Some people developed the Wild West.
Nowadays, Some people carve out a fortune in the E-sporting world.” Accessed: November 24th 2008 <http://weemee.com/weemee/issue/2>

Your best bet is trying to find interviews. Or do you own interviews, if you can get Tasteless/Artosis to give you some of his time.

StorrZerg

United States13921 Posts

July 17 2009 18:54 GMT

#44

On July 17 2009 23:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Yeah I couldn't imagine writing about progaming in an English class- yow.

I hate professors who are obsessed with book sources for these kinds of papers, times have changed, many online publications are just as credible and legit.

cause its easy. I wrote one about SC and esports got an A on it. granted My proff was kick ass and did not care to much about book scources..

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

July 17 2009 19:17 GMT

#45

There is nothing wrong with your english Professor. Your prof gave you an assignment and expects you to complete it following his/her guidelines. If your topic does not satisfy the requirements then it doesnt mean your prof is narrow minded.

RoieTRS

United States2569 Posts

July 17 2009 19:31 GMT

#46

Write 9 more books by yourself and publish them to finish the assignment.

SilverSkyLark

Philippines8437 Posts

July 18 2009 00:51 GMT

#47

Well if she wasn't too damn strict about the sources...~_~
Well I think I can talk her to making me use boxers autobiography and the nat geo feature as my main sources..

maga33

United States247 Posts

July 18 2009 02:41 GMT

#48

Go with "Crazy like Me" by Lim

There is also that national geographic doc and stuff idk. Google is your friend

29 fps

United States5725 Posts

July 21 2009 05:33 GMT

#49

its easier to write about boring stuff with many resources than interesting stuff with few resources, even though interest in the topic definitely makes the work seem less stressful.

feigning interest for this paper might be good practice for bullshitting later on.

krazymunky

United States727 Posts

July 21 2009 07:39 GMT

#50

On July 18 2009 09:51 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Well if she wasn't too damn strict about the sources...~_~
Well I think I can talk her to making me use boxers autobiography and the nat geo feature as my main sources..

its college, sources are important... get use to it.
she probably wont change her mind if you cant find 10 books/scholarly journals/(whatever she requires)

hazelynut

United States2197 Posts

July 21 2009 08:48 GMT

#51

Remember that you don't have to get books exactly about pro-gaming to make them work as sources. I recently wrote a paper on intercollegiate eSports in the context of a cultural performance, and was able to use other areas like psychology and linguistics in my argument. There were also a lot of books on sports themselves -- I recommend using those and comparing it to the state of eSports. I was able to compare the beginnings of intercollegiate sports and of intercollegiate eSports, so it was pretty cool.

The Storyteller

Singapore2486 Posts

July 21 2009 09:27 GMT

#52

I agree with riptide and liquid nony. If you do decide you want to use the NGC docu as a source and you want the script, or if you want to know how we verify our claims to see if it qualifies as a good source, drop me a PM.

OhThatDang

United States4685 Posts

July 21 2009 10:03 GMT

#53

just do something easier

Mullet_Power

Canada64 Posts

July 23 2009 04:38 GMT

#54

Even though it's about CS, you could use the book Game Boys as a reference

SilverSkyLark

Philippines8437 Posts

July 27 2009 10:40 GMT

#55

On July 21 2009 17:48 hazelynut wrote:
Remember that you don't have to get books exactly about pro-gaming to make them work as sources. I recently wrote a paper on intercollegiate eSports in the context of a cultural performance, and was able to use other areas like psychology and linguistics in my argument. There were also a lot of books on sports themselves -- I recommend using those and comparing it to the state of eSports. I was able to compare the beginnings of intercollegiate sports and of intercollegiate eSports, so it was pretty cool.

thanks for reminding me about the CSL.:D
Can't believe I missed that one..~_~