How to win at zerg:

Step 1: Don't die until hive compeletes.
Step 2: There is none, you win.

Any advice on how to beat these fuckers, without being 10 ranks above them? I'm too pissed off to structure a post for strategy forum. Also my mouse is broken so my multitasking is very dodgy.

Arrian

United States889 Posts

June 05 2009 21:27 GMT

Kill his third.

If you stop zerg from getting his third and he's going for late game/hive, you'll usually win. If he's cheesing you/going crazy zerg then this isn't always true, but oftentimes if you stop him from getting his third gas it's game.

Zerg can't feel comfortable with his lurker production without a third gas enough to keep you on your toes when you have tanks and vessels and are macroing out of 3+ barracks.

You deny his third and expo yourself, you'll steamroll him. Once you get vessels+tanks, lurkers can't do shit unless your macro totally blows. He needs defilers in order to actually engage you safely. If he engages just once and doesn't win, it's usually game.

d1v

Sweden868 Posts

June 05 2009 21:31 GMT

Look, no offense meant, but you chose one of the hardest TvZ strategies to execute and tbh, I don't think you're good enough a player to pull this off. I recommend you to learn a basic TvZ BO (click here) and build up your mechanics first. GL HF.

Elite00fm

United States548 Posts

June 05 2009 21:51 GMT

how to win at terran:

1. bunker rush like a faggot
2. make a bullshit proxy factory
3. make a vulture from said bullshit proxy factory
4. rape shit with vulture while making a wraith
5. rape shit with your wraith while doing whatever you feel like
6. ???
7. walk out of your base with a gigantic unstoppable mech army and 1a2a3a it towards the zerg base
8. win

T.O.P.

Hong Kong4685 Posts

June 05 2009 21:52 GMT

As much as the zerg was bad, you were pretty bad too. This is the first time I saw a goliath and m&m combo. You lost because you have no idea what to do when the defilers came out. Your 100 food army lost to a 20 food army because he had a defiler. Even when there were no scourges present, you refused to irradiate his defiler.

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

June 05 2009 21:52 GMT

Ha, you're seriously complaining about TvZ imbalance?
I'm a Zerg play and I recently tried playing TvZ because Ret is so cool and he's my idol.
It is SO easy to play.

Just learn a basic fast expand build order http://www.buildcraft.net/starcraft/builds/view/342?PHPSESSID=e95c9c01efc291ab712cbc066d356c27.
Move out when you get you're first Vessel.

Adeny

Norway1233 Posts

June 05 2009 22:00 GMT

On June 06 2009 06:51 Elite00fm wrote:
how to win at terran:

1. bunker rush like a faggot
2. make a bullshit proxy factory
3. make a vulture from said bullshit proxy factory
4. rape shit with vulture while making a wraith
5. rape shit with your wraith while doing whatever you feel like
6. ???
7. walk out of your base with a gigantic unstoppable mech army and 1a2a3a it towards the zerg base
8. win

I did all of the above but it didn't change the fact that his whole army is compeltely immune to any and all damage, except my firebat's. Neither did it change the army that he can instantly kill every unit I have with one spell. Shit seems pretty balanced to me.

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

June 05 2009 22:15 GMT

A better aspect would be
1 : survive to hive
2: fuck defilers lay down an ultra cavern
3: upgrade
4????
5: LOL ULTRAS BALANCED NOW TERRAN BITCH?

this is how my TvZs' go

.gypsy

Canada689 Posts

June 05 2009 22:15 GMT

Mechanics?
Go play and stop whining, do you ever wonder why most zergs that get high ranks only get it through ZvP and blow completely at ZvT...

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

June 05 2009 22:17 GMT

#10

Also, Goliath MnM is the most dumbass unit combination ever.
If you're meching GET TANKS. Then you can just roll his natural.

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

June 05 2009 22:17 GMT

#11

Oh and the wraiths... they're supposed to shoot DRONES

Adeny

Norway1233 Posts

June 05 2009 22:18 GMT

#12

Because I have infinite gas and spore colonies only attack ground units.

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

June 05 2009 22:24 GMT

#13

A spore does nothing against good micro, you shouldn't leave your wraiths sat doing nothing until they become obsolete.

Goliaths cost gas as well, if you'd swapped them for half as many tanks you could've easily rolled him.

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

June 05 2009 22:37 GMT

#14

What's the point of step 2 if you lose on step 1?
I like the "imbalance" starts 13 minutes into the game. Terrans start from when their first marine comes out.
+ Show Spoiler +

all in good jest

stroggos

New Zealand1543 Posts

June 05 2009 22:39 GMT

#15

On June 06 2009 07:17 Klive5ive wrote:
Also, Goliath MnM is the most dumbass unit combination ever.
If you're meching GET TANKS. Then you can just roll his natural.

goliath/mnm can be good in some situations...

EsX_Raptor

United States2802 Posts

June 05 2009 22:41 GMT

#16

OreoBoi

Canada1639 Posts

June 05 2009 22:43 GMT

#17

LOL ultras are fucking invincible units
btw your steps don't involve building a defiler mound or an ultralisk cavern or researching adrenal glands. I don't think zerg can win like that