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Swine flu, pig flue, whatever you wanna call it
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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spydernoob
Canada1066 Posts
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
I'm not too worried, I don't live in a major population center and I don't fuck pigs (I'm not sure if anyone here watches the PhillyD show). Sounds like the shit really is hitting the fan though. By the way, I would wear one of these: https://www.autoloandaily.com/images/stories/bubbleboypic.jpg | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On April 30 2009 14:40 spydernoob wrote: because us north americans are too preoccupied with our image and are somewhat selfish, pretty much boils down to id rather people around me get sick then i look wierd in this face mask this is idiotic | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
hes canadian, don't worry about it | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
That last time there was a true flu pandemic, it killed in 1-2 years a comparable number of people as the bubonic plague did in 10 years. It also targeted young healthy people rather than just old people and babies. So 20 years-olds would get sick then be dead a day or 2 later. I think some people though are blowing it out of proportion. Humans should have a healthy respect for disease. It has whooped our butts too many times in the past for us to not take it seriously. Read up on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic Now, we don't know if this will be a pandemic like that one, but we better make sure we are taking seriously from the very beginning just in case. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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Everywhere
United States97 Posts
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
RUNNN!!!! | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On April 30 2009 15:31 Savio wrote: it killed in 1-2 years a comparable number of people as the bubonic plague did in 10 years. 14th century world pop: 500 million 1918 world pop: 2 billion Travel was much faster in 1918 as well, leading to faster spreading of the disease. | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On April 30 2009 15:31 Savio wrote: @ OP: That last time there was a true flu pandemic, it killed in 1-2 years a comparable number of people as the bubonic plague did in 10 years. It also targeted young healthy people rather than just old people and babies. So 20 years-olds would get sick then be dead a day or 2 later. Humans should have a healthy respect for disease. It has whooped our butts too many times in the past for us to not take it seriously. Read up on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic Now, we don't know if this will be a pandemic like that one, but we better make sure we are taking seriously from the very beginning just in case. In absolute numbers the spanish flu might be comparable to the plague of 1348, but "only" 3 percent of the infected deceased, while a third of the european population died because of the black death. The world population was just much bigger in 1918. edit: of course I agree with you we should take this seriously, just wanted to make this clear edit: oops, someone was faster | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
On April 30 2009 14:38 Kentor wrote: why don't people in the US wear face masks like in the Asian countries and Bisu because they're 10x more hygienic. | ||
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
I wouldn't even know where to get one around here to be completely honest. The pharmacies here have never sold them really, I'd have better luck just picking up some Tamiflu. Also I could just buy, you know, water for if I get sick. Americans never treated Flu as something to avoid, we act reactively to it instead of proactively and just deal with it as we got it. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote: quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
we fucked i think | ||
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imDerek
United States1944 Posts
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
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ziziyo2
United States11 Posts
most people here I am guessing are young adults in good health so it shouldn't be much of a concern | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On April 30 2009 18:26 Pangolin wrote: That's it, I'm going to Madagascar, the one place that I know will be safe in a global pandemic. their borders and ports are already closed. GG | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 30 2009 17:53 lokiM wrote: lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet. | ||
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Descent
1244 Posts
On May 01 2009 08:22 HeavOnEarth wrote: their borders and ports are already closed. GG Lol. In case anyone is wondering... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/1/1b/1216556732428.jpg/385px-1216556732428.jpg) Made by shavingcream66; from the 'Flash Game; Pandemic II' thread. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On May 01 2009 08:32 TheYango wrote: I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet. yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 01 2009 08:58 lokiM wrote: yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side Because clearly the health issue is the only issue at work here? Shutting down an entire border is a major decision that can have other ramifications. Obviously it takes more than the basic knowledge of epidemiology (which the CDC has obviously considered), to decide whether its the right thing to do. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32059 Posts
On May 01 2009 08:58 lokiM wrote: yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side Have you even considered the impact of closing the border, politically, economically and socially? There's a fine line between precaution and overreaction. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On May 01 2009 09:39 Hawk wrote: Have you even considered the impact of closing the border, politically, economically and socially? There's a fine line between precaution and overreaction. lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme? | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. dont crai honkie | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On May 01 2009 10:16 lokiM wrote: lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme? millions?.. you are indeed retarded | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On April 30 2009 16:19 Maenander wrote: In absolute numbers the spanish flu might be comparable to the plague of 1348, but "only" 3 percent of the infected deceased, while a third of the european population died because of the black death. The world population was just much bigger in 1918. edit: of course I agree with you we should take this seriously, just wanted to make this clear edit: oops, someone was faster This is definitely true. I almost included a sentence about how the world population was very different between the 2 time periods in my post. But I do think that people forget how horrible the Spanish Flu really was. We talk a lot about wars killing a lot of people (think about all the news a little war like our invasion of Iraq got) and yet, at least in my school, we hardly talked about the Spanish Flu at all. That just seems weird to me. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32059 Posts
On May 01 2009 10:16 lokiM wrote: lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme? A) Realize we're in the middle of an economic shitstorm. What do you think happens to all trade with Mexico if we shut down our border? Closing borders is a last second resort that you don't fuck with unless you're damn sure that it's worth it B) For the love of god, learn what the fuck socialism is | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On May 01 2009 10:34 Hawk wrote: A) Realize we're in the middle of an economic shitstorm. What do you think happens to all trade with Mexico if we shut down our border? Closing borders is a last second resort that you don't fuck with unless you're damn sure that it's worth it B) For the love of god, learn what the fuck socialism is so you would take that chance, that's all you had to say. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32059 Posts
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
are YOU retarded? have you ever heard of an epidemic? EDIT: even if it wasn't millions, lets say hundreds of thousands; it doesn't make a fucking difference | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On May 01 2009 10:52 lokiM wrote: are YOU retarded? have you ever heard of an epidemic? EDIT: even if it wasn't millions, lets say hundreds of thousands; it doesn't make a fucking difference yawn watch the news or something. You living in your own world all alone. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
but no, you're right - let's close the border to one of our greatest trading partners despite the fact that the flu has already clearly lept the border. let's just think of some wild, hysterical reason to justify your bizarre agenda. this is so blown out of proportion it makes me sick. fox news had a headline the other day : "The Next Black Death?" Yeah, fox, the black death - we're at 1 person dead now. when we're approaching 50% of the population dying then we can talk about the black death, okay? | ||
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
in what way does this justify closing the border to one of our greatest trading partners? and, additionally, how can you say "I do agree with you that some media have blown it out of proportion" and at the same time advocate closing the border? clearly you must agree with those in the media that are being apocalyptic about this. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
oh wow some people in mexico died presumably to swine flu and the media is going batshit insane without any actual reporting going on just fear mongering SURPRISE. what is there like ONE fatality in the US, think about it ONE. wow guys we're all going to die let's going around wearing stupid retard masks as if that's going to help if there's some worldwide pandemic of deaht holyshiiiit. omg are you serious a flu strain that humans have never seen are infecting people at a rapid rate? omG!!!! give me a break, 100 people died in mexico or something. in a city of fucking millions 100 people died (only like 7 of them were confirmed swine flu), that's like a large classroom. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 01 2009 11:43 lokiM wrote: I agree with them to an extent but not completely, they're headlines are to scare people, I'm not trying to scare anyone but just trying to make a point that shit can get bad without any1 realizing, and if it does get bad 1 of the reasons will be because we didn't close down the borders and take necessary precautions like other countrys have. Except the government obviously DOES realize it. The CDC didn't choose not to close the border out of laziness, or idiocy, but because they legitimately weighed the consequences of closing the door to Mexico, and deemed that the costs outweighed the benefits. You can say you don't agree with their decision, but by no means is it dumb. Their priorities may be different from yours, but that doesn't make them stupid or insensitive. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
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Sky
Jordan812 Posts
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food
United States1951 Posts
On May 01 2009 11:47 TheYango wrote: Except the government obviously DOES realize it. The CDC didn't choose not to close the border out of laziness, or idiocy, but because they legitimately weighed the consequences of closing the door to Mexico, and deemed that the costs outweighed the benefits. You can say you don't agree with their decision, but by no means is it dumb. Their priorities may be different from yours, but that doesn't make them stupid or insensitive. CDC actually never considered closing the border, apparently they are not a bunch of retards who would think of shutting borders down to a flu. Also you explaining things to someone who claims hundreds of thousands will die in the US. Come on, guy probably posting in this thread http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=594499 | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
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OverTheUnder
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panda_inc
Australia170 Posts
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