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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
February 17 2009 15:19 GMT
#41
Eh there are better ways for D- people to get better than getting mass raped on iccup. Ladders tend to promote solo playing especially at low levels like that. It's gonna be hard to find a real iccup team who can bring you under their wing. Much easier to find a team on battle.net with a similiar skill level that you can effectively practice with.
Nak Allstar.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 17 2009 15:19 GMT
#42
Congratulations on beating people who are likely still learning what each unit does, are there any preschools near where you live perhaps you should try your hand at physical combat next.
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
February 17 2009 15:34 GMT
#43
I was in [mech] 4 years ago!! aka MTS[mech] who were you
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Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
February 17 2009 15:51 GMT
#44
On February 18 2009 00:06 b3h47pte wrote:
The amount of time you take to beat someone is no where representative of how good you are...

Yes it does....
If you are way better than someone you won`t use 20+ mins killing them unless you are fooling around or got crippled early or something. Its a reason every C+ or higher ranked players used to have <15 min and most <10min average game length in the D and D+ ranks when iccup still had that kind of stats.
God Hates a Coward
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
February 17 2009 15:59 GMT
#45
Eh maybe after a certain level, but someone in the C's range may still take well over 15 minutes beating a D+ player, just because he may not be as solid in some skills as he may be in others.
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sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
February 17 2009 16:04 GMT
#46
On February 18 2009 00:19 MiniRoman wrote:
Eh there are better ways for D- people to get better than getting mass raped on iccup. Ladders tend to promote solo playing especially at low levels like that. It's gonna be hard to find a real iccup team who can bring you under their wing. Much easier to find a team on battle.net with a similiar skill level that you can effectively practice with.


Why would you need a team of other bad players to get better? Playing bad people is just gonna postpone your problems until you get better and start getting raped because you have huge issues with your play that you didn't realize, because you just played the same (bad) people. If improving fast is your goal, playing someone that is way better than you is always preferable to playing someone at your level.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
February 17 2009 16:16 GMT
#47
On February 18 2009 00:59 Cloud wrote:
Eh maybe after a certain level, but someone in the C's range may still take well over 15 minutes beating a D+ player, just because he may not be as solid in some skills as he may be in others.

Sure if they are not that far apart in skill the games will often last longer, however no C or above player will regularly use 20+ mins to beat D players with <50% winrates. So the time spent to win can give a good indication of skill level. Of course its no exact science, but more often than not they will spend shorter time beating people when the skill gap is big between them.
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 16:30:56
February 17 2009 16:26 GMT
#48
On February 18 2009 01:04 Supah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 00:19 MiniRoman wrote:
Eh there are better ways for D- people to get better than getting mass raped on iccup. Ladders tend to promote solo playing especially at low levels like that. It's gonna be hard to find a real iccup team who can bring you under their wing. Much easier to find a team on battle.net with a similiar skill level that you can effectively practice with.


Why would you need a team of other bad players to get better? Playing bad people is just gonna postpone your problems until you get better and start getting raped because you have huge issues with your play that you didn't realize, because you just played the same (bad) people. If improving fast is your goal, playing someone that is way better than you is always preferable to playing someone at your level.


In a fighting game I'd agree with you but Starcraft is different and it's impossible to overcome a huge skill gap. Games that are totally one sided don't offer too much other than a benchmark to see where you stand compared to good people. Worse macro will lead to imbalanced fights, doesn't let you practice as much as a player closer to your skill level worse. The important thing is to just improve everygame. Replays are everywhere and they act as a textbook for broodwar. Proper application wotn happen vs someone 100x better than you though. Pretty even games with your opponant being just a little better than you should be the best way to improve.

Edit: The better you are the more you would be able to appreciate a difference in skill (a B iccup player would get more out of playing an A+ than a D- would get out of playing a C+) but low levels is brutal. A starting terran could lose to 1 or 2 zealots like 10 games straight. Not very much learned in all those loses =\
Nak Allstar.
1a2a3aGG
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States225 Posts
February 17 2009 16:32 GMT
#49
You played crappy people... Iccup 2;2 skill doesn't raise that dramatically as 1;1 though... I think last season my partner and I went like 20-0 before we lost a game I believe at the C/C+ rank it starts to get harder... depends on you and your partners skill level.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 17 2009 16:38 GMT
#50
I'm not that great of a player, but I've never had any trouble getting to C rank 2v2 with my cousin, we could always get there with around 75% winrate. 2v2 up from D -> C is really easy, especially if you're playing pubs because it is really easy to pub game up through C rank and theres a high chance you'll get newb teams and totally own them if you have your own set ally.

Through D -> C it's possible to encounter some very strong teams along the way, some kors who are just starting for example that will give you a few losses, but really until you reach C rank 2v2 ladder is super easy
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
February 17 2009 16:54 GMT
#51
On my smurf account I just played 4 Ds in a row with over 300 apm.

It's all luck who you play at the D level. Actual D level players are bad, yes, but many D players are just people that started a new account or reset their stats, so u gotta watch out.
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FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5017 Posts
February 17 2009 17:21 GMT
#52
Whys everyone bashing the murphy chill would ya.He just saying he thought it was going to be harder thats it.Why do you all have to replay analyze his games and give him shit.Seriously just chill.

I suck ass but still find it very fun to get some games on iccup every so often.

Gl sir .
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ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
February 17 2009 17:35 GMT
#53
I noticed you played a few players that were 33-58? and so on. Damn, I was I was as cool as you. Don't flame those D- players. Hell it took you 20 minutes to beat them.

Congrats on your wins.

I guess.

Jangbi storms!!!
Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
February 17 2009 17:42 GMT
#54
On low ranks, people are as bad as they ever were on pgt and other ladders. They play more macro oriented now but they are not better. When you gain some ranks though, it's a different story.
Moff
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom166 Posts
February 17 2009 18:26 GMT
#55
haha, to whoever said why do such bad players even play the ladder, it's BNET lags too much to enjoy and BNET is also full of bm, and at least i know joining a 1:1 D- game they are infact D-, not some 100-10 guy farmining nibs
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 18:38:12
February 17 2009 18:36 GMT
#56
On February 18 2009 02:35 ZeeTemplar wrote:
I noticed you played a few players that were 33-58? and so on. Damn, I was I was as cool as you. Don't flame those D- players. Hell it took you 20 minutes to beat them.

Congrats on your wins.

I guess.



Yeah man you are so tough. I bet CM would rape you if you played right now. Gauging from past LAN's, CM is at least C- or more. Do you know a player is 33-58 before you play them? No, you only see their points. Congrats on your faggot life, I guess.

And, 52 post self-righteous gaywad, most D players turtle like a mofo. It took Stork 1.3 HOURS to beat GGPlay. Turtling takes a lot of time to crack. Just shut up dude, trying to act tough here is stupid. Don't bash on TL old-timers either.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
February 17 2009 18:55 GMT
#57
On February 18 2009 02:42 Breavman wrote:
On low ranks, people are as bad as they ever were on pgt and other ladders. They play more macro oriented now but they are not better. When you gain some ranks though, it's a different story.

I feel like the low level ICCUP players are still better than other ladder players.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 17 2009 19:03 GMT
#58
Hmm, I actually like Python as a 2v2 map. If you're complaining about base numbers...if you look at most maps designed for 2v2, they have just as many, or even less...
Hello
prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 20:02:53
February 17 2009 20:00 GMT
#59
I like Python as a 2v2 map. I like how it's almost impossible to hold anything beyond your nat unless your team has map control. By forcing players out of their base the game becomes much more dynamic and interesting IMO
Nobody beats the Beater
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
February 17 2009 20:01 GMT
#60
On February 18 2009 03:36 Quesadilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2009 02:35 ZeeTemplar wrote:
I noticed you played a few players that were 33-58? and so on. Damn, I was I was as cool as you. Don't flame those D- players. Hell it took you 20 minutes to beat them.

Congrats on your wins.

I guess.



Yeah man you are so tough. I bet CM would rape you if you played right now. Gauging from past LAN's, CM is at least C- or more. Do you know a player is 33-58 before you play them? No, you only see their points. Congrats on your faggot life, I guess.

And, 52 post self-righteous gaywad, most D players turtle like a mofo. It took Stork 1.3 HOURS to beat GGPlay. Turtling takes a lot of time to crack. Just shut up dude, trying to act tough here is stupid. Don't bash on TL old-timers either.


man dont overdo it, no matter what CMs postcount is, this is a stupid blog talking about how izi iccup is, just look at the title. Sounded like a Saddles post
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