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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Bond(i2)
Canada926 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On February 18 2009 00:06 b3h47pte wrote: The amount of time you take to beat someone is no where representative of how good you are... Yes it does.... If you are way better than someone you won`t use 20+ mins killing them unless you are fooling around or got crippled early or something. Its a reason every C+ or higher ranked players used to have <15 min and most <10min average game length in the D and D+ ranks when iccup still had that kind of stats. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
On February 18 2009 00:19 MiniRoman wrote: Eh there are better ways for D- people to get better than getting mass raped on iccup. Ladders tend to promote solo playing especially at low levels like that. It's gonna be hard to find a real iccup team who can bring you under their wing. Much easier to find a team on battle.net with a similiar skill level that you can effectively practice with. Why would you need a team of other bad players to get better? Playing bad people is just gonna postpone your problems until you get better and start getting raped because you have huge issues with your play that you didn't realize, because you just played the same (bad) people. If improving fast is your goal, playing someone that is way better than you is always preferable to playing someone at your level. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On February 18 2009 00:59 Cloud wrote: Eh maybe after a certain level, but someone in the C's range may still take well over 15 minutes beating a D+ player, just because he may not be as solid in some skills as he may be in others. Sure if they are not that far apart in skill the games will often last longer, however no C or above player will regularly use 20+ mins to beat D players with <50% winrates. So the time spent to win can give a good indication of skill level. Of course its no exact science, but more often than not they will spend shorter time beating people when the skill gap is big between them. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
On February 18 2009 01:04 Supah wrote: Why would you need a team of other bad players to get better? Playing bad people is just gonna postpone your problems until you get better and start getting raped because you have huge issues with your play that you didn't realize, because you just played the same (bad) people. If improving fast is your goal, playing someone that is way better than you is always preferable to playing someone at your level. In a fighting game I'd agree with you but Starcraft is different and it's impossible to overcome a huge skill gap. Games that are totally one sided don't offer too much other than a benchmark to see where you stand compared to good people. Worse macro will lead to imbalanced fights, doesn't let you practice as much as a player closer to your skill level worse. The important thing is to just improve everygame. Replays are everywhere and they act as a textbook for broodwar. Proper application wotn happen vs someone 100x better than you though. Pretty even games with your opponant being just a little better than you should be the best way to improve. Edit: The better you are the more you would be able to appreciate a difference in skill (a B iccup player would get more out of playing an A+ than a D- would get out of playing a C+) but low levels is brutal. A starting terran could lose to 1 or 2 zealots like 10 games straight. Not very much learned in all those loses =\ | ||
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1a2a3aGG
United States225 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Through D -> C it's possible to encounter some very strong teams along the way, some kors who are just starting for example that will give you a few losses, but really until you reach C rank 2v2 ladder is super easy | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
It's all luck who you play at the D level. Actual D level players are bad, yes, but many D players are just people that started a new account or reset their stats, so u gotta watch out. | ||
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FuDDx
United States5015 Posts
I suck ass but still find it very fun to get some games on iccup every so often. Gl sir . | ||
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ZeeTemplar
United States557 Posts
Congrats on your wins. I guess. | ||
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Breavman
Sweden598 Posts
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Moff
United Kingdom166 Posts
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
On February 18 2009 02:35 ZeeTemplar wrote: I noticed you played a few players that were 33-58? and so on. Damn, I was I was as cool as you. Don't flame those D- players. Hell it took you 20 minutes to beat them. Congrats on your wins. I guess. Yeah man you are so tough. I bet CM would rape you if you played right now. Gauging from past LAN's, CM is at least C- or more. Do you know a player is 33-58 before you play them? No, you only see their points. Congrats on your faggot life, I guess. And, 52 post self-righteous gaywad, most D players turtle like a mofo. It took Stork 1.3 HOURS to beat GGPlay. Turtling takes a lot of time to crack. Just shut up dude, trying to act tough here is stupid. Don't bash on TL old-timers either. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On February 18 2009 02:42 Breavman wrote: On low ranks, people are as bad as they ever were on pgt and other ladders. They play more macro oriented now but they are not better. When you gain some ranks though, it's a different story. I feel like the low level ICCUP players are still better than other ladder players. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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prOxi.Beater
Denmark626 Posts
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Wurzelbrumpft
Germany471 Posts
On February 18 2009 03:36 Quesadilla wrote: Yeah man you are so tough. I bet CM would rape you if you played right now. Gauging from past LAN's, CM is at least C- or more. Do you know a player is 33-58 before you play them? No, you only see their points. Congrats on your faggot life, I guess. And, 52 post self-righteous gaywad, most D players turtle like a mofo. It took Stork 1.3 HOURS to beat GGPlay. Turtling takes a lot of time to crack. Just shut up dude, trying to act tough here is stupid. Don't bash on TL old-timers either. man dont overdo it, no matter what CMs postcount is, this is a stupid blog talking about how izi iccup is, just look at the title. Sounded like a Saddles post | ||
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