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Saracen
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United States5139 Posts
November 16 2008 05:29 GMT
#21
islamey
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United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-16 11:34:39
November 16 2008 11:33 GMT
#22
how about caprice espanol? even though i've stopped playing piano for the most part, it's the only song i actually practice time to time.

i think it's quite an impressive song; whenever i play it, i usually get a positive response from my listeners.

i like how this guy interprets the piece:
bluemanrocks
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States304 Posts
November 17 2008 00:26 GMT
#23
On November 16 2008 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
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On November 16 2008 12:36 bluemanrocks wrote:
On November 16 2008 12:33 Empyrean wrote:
On November 16 2008 12:29 imDerek wrote:
yaya liszt is so good

u should play his transcendental etudes


If he can't play a simple Liszt piece like his Liebestraumes, there's no way he's going to attempt any of his etudes, not even relatively easy ones like his concert etudes, much less his transcendental etudes.


ouch, lol. and i just picked it up and started to learn it casually and i should be done soon. anyways i was thinking of gnomenreigen since i have the sheets and have looked it over before, so if anyones played it before if you have any input as to how that learning process would go, thatd be nice

EDIT: also, though follets is obviously infinitely harder, liebestraume's cadences/the end of the middle section is harder than a bunch of parts from the transcendentals. not saying the transcendentals are easier, as even the easiest is harder, but liebestraume has its moments. and also, i didnt choose liebestraume for its technical difficulty, i chose it because i loved the piece.


The second cadenza in the Liebestraume you're playing is a very simple downwards chromatic progression. Not to disparage it or anything, but it's pretty much mindless in the sense that once you know the "trick", it's very, very simple. If you compare it to sections in some other pieces with more tricky fingerings, not as obvious progressions/patterns, etc., it's technically a lot easier than lots of his other stuff. (The first cadenza is more difficult, actually).

Hell, even the sustained difficulty of some of his other etudes are technically harder than that cadenza (pages of the first edition to some of his paganini etudes, for example).

Anyway, I'm not such a big Liszt fan...which isn't to disparage his pieces, or anything. I do enjoy them to some extent.

To get some useful suggestions, what pieces have you finished?


was referring to the first cadenza, and more of the climax in the piu animato and also including the fact that liebestraume is meant to be a very emotional piece, so the musicality of it is extremely important which makes it harder to concentrate on. regardless, im trying not to draw this out into an argument, just trying to point out what i meant. anyways, i think ive decided on that fugue and tchaikovskys concerto 1
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16957 Posts
November 17 2008 02:58 GMT
#24
Well great choice with the a minor prelude/fugue. I love the fugue, and it's quite challenging playing accurately with good phrasing and voicing in each part. I'm going to go out and say now that I think playing the fugue at competition level is more difficult than playing the Liebestraume hahaha

Honestly.

Anyway, that's one of my favorite fugues ever. Ever! >_>...and the Prelude's pleasant as well.

As for the Tchaikovsky concerto, I've never actually played it myself, so I can't say how it might turn out, but it shouldn't be that bad. Still, if you'd give a more or less comprehensive list of what you've played, it'd be a lot easier to suggest some pieces that you might enjoy learning that you might not otherwise have played. Have you also been consulting your teacher about this?
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bluemanrocks
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States304 Posts
November 18 2008 01:36 GMT
#25
i am in the process of switching teachers now, so not really. i have been with a teacher who really hasnt been helpful at all, and so ive been learning on my own (my own meaning the help of many books/my friends, one of whom is actually a prodigy and really offers great insight for someone of his age)

my real working pieces include in no particular order (may be missing some):
winter winds etude
oceans etude
liebestraume
rach's preludes in g/c minor (learned these this past summer; heard them and instantly loved them. gotta say, rach has a weird 'interpretation' of his own music, if it can be called that).
also working on scriabin etude op. 8 no. 12 but put that down for a little when i picked up winter winds
a handful of chopins nocturnes because i always loved them
learned beethoven's pathetique (saw someone just suggest this =P)
revolutionary etude, and started fantasie impromptu but got bored

i know im missing bach, hence my choice of the fugue. im to anything though, i just love music.

also i learned billy joel's complete works =P love billy joel with a passion

and parts of the tchaik are crazy, but maybe theyre not, theres a lot of stuff that seems one way but isnt once you get into it, as im sure you know.

what kind of stuff do you play/are you playing?

thanks for your help btw!
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16957 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 02:19:26
November 18 2008 02:15 GMT
#26
Well first, try and see if you can get lessons from a college professor. At the very least, get a teacher who doesn't coddle you and bullshits around. That'd probably be the single most helpful thing. Anyway, I'm assuming you have pretty big hands ;D

So yeah, I'm assuming you've looked at all the "popular" pieces, so I'll end up recommending things you've probably never considered but are still very important pieces in the piano canon.

I'd get some pieces that show more depth and a more subtle difficulty to learn. Maybe something that's difficult but in different ways you're used to (and hell, lots of pieces like this are pretty technically demanding as well). Try Chopin's fourth ballade? You won't be able to perfect it very easily. Some other pieces that people don't play very often but are very beautiful in their own ways uhh....Chopin's third impromptu (you seem to like Chopin so I'm giving some suggestions). Chopin's sixth etude is one of my favorites (but no one really likes it. You might not). For something pretty technically challenging, try his eighteenth etude. It's the hardest out of all of them in my opinion.

Outside of Chopin, uh...it's very difficult to play Mozart stylistically correct and gracefully, even though you might assume it's simple based on the technical difficulty of his pieces. I like Beethoven's fifteenth and twenty-sixth sonatas as well. Try some Bach partitas? Hmm...you could try random Brahms, though I don't like his piano stuff very much. Prokofiev wrote a bunch of great pieces such as his sonatas and some of his more programmatic work. The third movement to his third piano concerto is a bitch to play but lots of fun. It should be more than a challenge if you ever attempt it.

EDIT: Try and figure out the finguring to the "arpeggiated" seconds passages near the end by yourself XD...if you ever see the sheet music to it you'll know what I mean.

As for what I've played, I quit piano at the end of high school haha. Right now I just do random movie music/pop music/etc. that I like, so yeah, that's my current piano experience. In the past, I've played staples like Chopin (ballades, etudes, nocturnes and a scherzo, etc.), Beethoven Sonatas, Bach pieces from WTCs, etc. I haven't played many concertos. I've done the romantic staples of Grieg/Schumann, Chopin 2, Rach 2, but I did get some prizes from concerto competitions (Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra being the most well known one) as well as random state/national ones. Also did some other concertos for fun like Bach d minor, Brandenberg no. 5 on a cembalo hahaha, etc. I've never not placed in local competitions so I'm not going to bother trying to count them. I've also done a lot of Rachmaninoff, Debussy, other composers, etc.

EDIT: Oh, since you like Liszt so much, something you might like to try would be Les Jeux d'Eaux à la Villa d'Este from his third year of pilgrimage. It's more technically demanding than any of the pieces you listed.
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