EPTi know some of my friends and, other people general get bored with music, but no one really has any ideas, so i was hoping tl may have some brilliant suggestions. anybody have any good, time-filling pieces/studies?
piano piece suggestions?
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bluemanrocks
United States304 Posts
i know some of my friends and, other people general get bored with music, but no one really has any ideas, so i was hoping tl may have some brilliant suggestions. anybody have any good, time-filling pieces/studies? | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6764 Posts
If you can please record it or something I love that piece | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6764 Posts
and I guess if you really want something to work on there's rachmaninoff if you havent already | ||
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
Beethoven's Hammerklavier Sonata (no. 29) Beethoven's Waldstein Sonata (no. 21) Bach's Goldberg Variations You can get some nice free insight from http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
If you wanna try playing something hellish, you could try Ravel's Scarbo, from Gaspard de la Nuit. | ||
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bluemanrocks
United States304 Posts
i have the music for goldberg variations and i have a photocopy hammerklavier somewhere, i actually was thinking of digging up the goldberg variations but id actually have to find them =\ edit: also have chopin ballades, learned the first, but thats another good idea thanks so far for your guys' suggestions | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
and beethoven pathetique | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
Chopin "Raindrop" Tchaikovsky "Juin" | ||
Empyrean
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On November 16 2008 12:25 Slithe wrote: As a Chopin fan, I recommend fantasie impromptu for a shorter and relatively easier work, or one of the Ballades for something tougher. If you wanna try playing something hellish, you could try Ravel's Scarbo, from Gaspard de la Nuit. Are you honestly suggesting Scarbo? ... | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
Best piano song ever. | ||
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imDerek
United States1944 Posts
u should play his transcendental etudes | ||
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Empyrean
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On November 16 2008 12:29 imDerek wrote: yaya liszt is so good u should play his transcendental etudes If he can't play a simple Liszt piece like his Liebestraumes, there's no way he's going to attempt any of his etudes, not even relatively easy ones like his concert etudes, much less his transcendental etudes. | ||
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bluemanrocks
United States304 Posts
also, just a little note, i kinda wanna stay away from one of chopins opus 25 etudes, winter winds is enough for now and transcendental etudes/scarbo would actaully be AMAZING but it would take forever to learn | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
lol not really, but it would be fun to see someone try. | ||
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bluemanrocks
United States304 Posts
On November 16 2008 12:33 Empyrean wrote: If he can't play a simple Liszt piece like his Liebestraumes, there's no way he's going to attempt any of his etudes, not even relatively easy ones like his concert etudes, much less his transcendental etudes. ouch, lol. and i just picked it up and started to learn it casually and i should be done soon. anyways i was thinking of gnomenreigen since i have the sheets and have looked it over before, so if anyones played it before if you have any input as to how that learning process would go, thatd be nice EDIT: also, though follets is obviously infinitely harder, liebestraume's cadences/the end of the middle section is harder than a bunch of parts from the transcendentals. not saying the transcendentals are easier, as even the easiest is harder, but liebestraume has its moments. and also, i didnt choose liebestraume for its technical difficulty, i chose it because i loved the piece. | ||
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
Although it would be really hard  | ||
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Empyrean
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On November 16 2008 12:36 bluemanrocks wrote: ouch, lol. and i just picked it up and started to learn it casually and i should be done soon. anyways i was thinking of gnomenreigen since i have the sheets and have looked it over before, so if anyones played it before if you have any input as to how that learning process would go, thatd be nice EDIT: also, though follets is obviously infinitely harder, liebestraume's cadences/the end of the middle section is harder than a bunch of parts from the transcendentals. not saying the transcendentals are easier, as even the easiest is harder, but liebestraume has its moments. and also, i didnt choose liebestraume for its technical difficulty, i chose it because i loved the piece. The second cadenza in the Liebestraume you're playing is a very simple downwards chromatic progression. Not to disparage it or anything, but it's pretty much mindless in the sense that once you know the "trick", it's very, very simple. If you compare it to sections in some other pieces with more tricky fingerings, not as obvious progressions/patterns, etc., it's technically a lot easier than lots of his other stuff. (The first cadenza is more difficult, actually). Hell, even the sustained difficulty of some of his other etudes are technically harder than that cadenza (pages of the first edition to some of his paganini etudes, for example). Anyway, I'm not such a big Liszt fan...which isn't to disparage his pieces, or anything. I do enjoy them to some extent. To get some useful suggestions, what pieces have you finished? | ||
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404.Nintu
Canada1723 Posts
Greatest Fugue of all time. I know you wanted Classical but I hope Baroque is alright? I don't think anything else can compare to this. Edit: Proper link. | ||
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
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Saracen
United States5139 Posts
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affinity
United States266 Posts
i think it's quite an impressive song; whenever i play it, i usually get a positive response from my listeners. i like how this guy interprets the piece: | ||
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bluemanrocks
United States304 Posts
On November 16 2008 12:58 Empyrean wrote: The second cadenza in the Liebestraume you're playing is a very simple downwards chromatic progression. Not to disparage it or anything, but it's pretty much mindless in the sense that once you know the "trick", it's very, very simple. If you compare it to sections in some other pieces with more tricky fingerings, not as obvious progressions/patterns, etc., it's technically a lot easier than lots of his other stuff. (The first cadenza is more difficult, actually). Hell, even the sustained difficulty of some of his other etudes are technically harder than that cadenza (pages of the first edition to some of his paganini etudes, for example). Anyway, I'm not such a big Liszt fan...which isn't to disparage his pieces, or anything. I do enjoy them to some extent. To get some useful suggestions, what pieces have you finished? was referring to the first cadenza, and more of the climax in the piu animato and also including the fact that liebestraume is meant to be a very emotional piece, so the musicality of it is extremely important which makes it harder to concentrate on. regardless, im trying not to draw this out into an argument, just trying to point out what i meant. anyways, i think ive decided on that fugue and tchaikovskys concerto 1 | ||
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Empyrean
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 Honestly. Anyway, that's one of my favorite fugues ever. Ever! >_>...and the Prelude's pleasant as well. As for the Tchaikovsky concerto, I've never actually played it myself, so I can't say how it might turn out, but it shouldn't be that bad. Still, if you'd give a more or less comprehensive list of what you've played, it'd be a lot easier to suggest some pieces that you might enjoy learning that you might not otherwise have played. Have you also been consulting your teacher about this? | ||
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bluemanrocks
United States304 Posts
my real working pieces include in no particular order (may be missing some): winter winds etude oceans etude liebestraume rach's preludes in g/c minor (learned these this past summer; heard them and instantly loved them. gotta say, rach has a weird 'interpretation' of his own music, if it can be called that). also working on scriabin etude op. 8 no. 12 but put that down for a little when i picked up winter winds a handful of chopins nocturnes because i always loved them learned beethoven's pathetique (saw someone just suggest this =P) revolutionary etude, and started fantasie impromptu but got bored i know im missing bach, hence my choice of the fugue. im to anything though, i just love music. also i learned billy joel's complete works =P love billy joel with a passion and parts of the tchaik are crazy, but maybe theyre not, theres a lot of stuff that seems one way but isnt once you get into it, as im sure you know. what kind of stuff do you play/are you playing? thanks for your help btw! | ||
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Empyrean
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So yeah, I'm assuming you've looked at all the "popular" pieces, so I'll end up recommending things you've probably never considered but are still very important pieces in the piano canon. I'd get some pieces that show more depth and a more subtle difficulty to learn. Maybe something that's difficult but in different ways you're used to (and hell, lots of pieces like this are pretty technically demanding as well). Try Chopin's fourth ballade? You won't be able to perfect it very easily. Some other pieces that people don't play very often but are very beautiful in their own ways uhh....Chopin's third impromptu (you seem to like Chopin so I'm giving some suggestions). Chopin's sixth etude is one of my favorites (but no one really likes it. You might not). For something pretty technically challenging, try his eighteenth etude. It's the hardest out of all of them in my opinion. Outside of Chopin, uh...it's very difficult to play Mozart stylistically correct and gracefully, even though you might assume it's simple based on the technical difficulty of his pieces. I like Beethoven's fifteenth and twenty-sixth sonatas as well. Try some Bach partitas? Hmm...you could try random Brahms, though I don't like his piano stuff very much. Prokofiev wrote a bunch of great pieces such as his sonatas and some of his more programmatic work. The third movement to his third piano concerto is a bitch to play but lots of fun. It should be more than a challenge if you ever attempt it. EDIT: Try and figure out the finguring to the "arpeggiated" seconds passages near the end by yourself XD...if you ever see the sheet music to it you'll know what I mean. As for what I've played, I quit piano at the end of high school haha. Right now I just do random movie music/pop music/etc. that I like, so yeah, that's my current piano experience. In the past, I've played staples like Chopin (ballades, etudes, nocturnes and a scherzo, etc.), Beethoven Sonatas, Bach pieces from WTCs, etc. I haven't played many concertos. I've done the romantic staples of Grieg/Schumann, Chopin 2, Rach 2, but I did get some prizes from concerto competitions (Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra being the most well known one) as well as random state/national ones. Also did some other concertos for fun like Bach d minor, Brandenberg no. 5 on a cembalo hahaha, etc. I've never not placed in local competitions so I'm not going to bother trying to count them. I've also done a lot of Rachmaninoff, Debussy, other composers, etc. EDIT: Oh, since you like Liszt so much, something you might like to try would be Les Jeux d'Eaux à la Villa d'Este from his third year of pilgrimage. It's more technically demanding than any of the pieces you listed. | ||
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