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BaDayOri
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)469 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 01:52:23
September 09 2008 01:24 GMT
#1
Alright so last winter I got into some trouble for accompanying my "friend" in stealing some stuff from a kid's open car. I was young and naive at the time and I didn't even think twice about stopping him.

Well my "friend" got caught because he is just..stupid. I find out a few days later that he snitched on me so I got called in at school and the administrators talked to me and some more stuff happened. Well the kid that actually stole the stuff threw the stolen goods away. I was able to retreieve most of them and return them to the owner so the school didn't really punish me in any way. O yea did I mention that the theft took place in school? yea dumb i know... Luckily at that time I was 16 so I couldnt be tried as an adult. The whole thing cooled down after about a week or two with me not having to even go to court and I thought everything was taken care of and things just seemed to die down... (the other guy actually did go to court but idk what happened to him but I still see him at school)



APPARENTLY NOT. I recently got a text message from the guy whos car got broken into and he said that the DA finally got the court papers and that I should have received mail telling me about my court date. His parents decided to file a civil suit on me for wasting his time and causing him to mess up in school (my "friend" actually took his entire backpack too and dumped the papers everywhere).

However, I am enrolled in school under my korean name but I usually go by an american name and nobody really knows me by my real name. But there is another korean kid at my school that is actually enrolled in school as my american name and same last name as mine. So I find out that the court papers have all been sent to him and now the court date is past due.



Alright teamliquid so what should I do? Right now my parents dont have any idea of whats going on and they think that everything has been settled since last winter.

Should I just wait for the court to realize that they have the wrong "me" and just wait for the mail? Or should I tell my parents of whats going on and tell them to contact the DA.

Also apparently the kid whos trying me is selling marijuana and usually picks up at least an ounce...maybe I should just get him fucked? LOL :[
but if i did that I would feel a bit dirty..and hypocritical

what to do?



EDIT: the reason why I might consider waiting the court date out is that I am a weed smoker..haha and the later the court date, the later I get a parole officer (IF i get one that is), which would be a later drug test

and no homo but you better show your boy respect, before the heck blow your head off like oral sex -CASSIDY
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
September 09 2008 01:36 GMT
#2
You might be boned.

Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
September 09 2008 01:43 GMT
#3
Tell your parents and contact the DA, because there's no way to play off you not knowing about the papers now that you got the text message from the guy who's suing you.

Frankly, it's silly for them to be suing you. The bottom line is what really matters here. If the kid was really stupid, he probably wasn't getting good grades anyway and there really isn't a case against you messing him up (particularly because, from what you say, it wasn't you who took the backpack) and if the kid is smart, then his school performance can't be that bad, and thus they don't have a case. Under any circumstance, the school should have done something to help the kid if his papers and stuff went missing, and his performance being affected by such an incident is unlikely. Never underestimate the stupidity of the justice system, however.
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BaDayOri
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)469 Posts
September 09 2008 01:49 GMT
#4
I personally agree and think that his parents are taking it a bit too far.. but I did wrong and can't say much

so if I just wait it out and not say shit you think there will be consequences?
and no homo but you better show your boy respect, before the heck blow your head off like oral sex -CASSIDY
fgsvsd
Profile Joined June 2007
Switzerland348 Posts
September 09 2008 01:49 GMT
#5
WHAT. HOLY FUCK.

I'd go batshit insane! Talk about things going wrong. Oh and I hate snitching people.

I'm on a fever-high so I don't really have any advice for you. No clear thoughts etc.
Hope it all goes down well for you though. Best of luck! + Show Spoiler +
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esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
September 09 2008 01:50 GMT
#6
Definetly tell your parents, that is what they are for. Especially true because they have helped you on this issue before.

If you have evidence that the kid is selling dope, I would definetly release that information (in the right hands) as well.

Lying and trying to avoid problems will not help you. Once this is over you will be a better person for it, regardless of the outcome.

gl
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
September 09 2008 01:51 GMT
#7
Just do all the right stuff. You didn't really do anything. Can you really get into trouble for not stopping someone from committing a crime?
Oh no
BaDayOri
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)469 Posts
September 09 2008 01:53 GMT
#8
On September 09 2008 10:51 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Just do all the right stuff. You didn't really do anything. Can you really get into trouble for not stopping someone from committing a crime?

I actually looked through the trunk of the car but did not take anything from the car itself.. I didn't step foot into the car once but apparently it is still a felony :[
and no homo but you better show your boy respect, before the heck blow your head off like oral sex -CASSIDY
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
September 09 2008 01:54 GMT
#9
Also apparently the kid whos trying me is selling marijuana and usually picks up at least an ounce...maybe I should just get him fucked?


do it
BaDayOri
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)469 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 01:57:05
September 09 2008 01:56 GMT
#10
On September 09 2008 10:54 Hippopotamus wrote:
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Also apparently the kid whos trying me is selling marijuana and usually picks up at least an ounce...maybe I should just get him fucked?


do it

hahaha that made me laugh..well the problem is I don't think just telling someone (cop w/e) that the kid is selling drugs will do me any good... perhaps put me in a worse situation

the only real way I could get him would be to set him up and let the cops find him holding the weight..which would be pretty difficult


I just feel dirty right now
and no homo but you better show your boy respect, before the heck blow your head off like oral sex -CASSIDY
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
September 09 2008 02:22 GMT
#11
Fuck that kid, fuck being hypocritical, tell on his ass for dealing weed.

You > Him

Don't take the fall because you have a dumb friend. And you should probably tell your parents, but I know how hard this is for most teenagers, especially in this type of situation.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
September 09 2008 02:24 GMT
#12
take pictures of the weed selling kid selling weed

blackmail him with it
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
September 09 2008 02:26 GMT
#13
Yeah, just fuck him over. You got him his shit back and he still acts like a total scumbag, doesn't sound like he's going anywhere in life either. Self preservation, you > him etc.

fuck him
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
September 09 2008 02:36 GMT
#14
Post about it on the Internet
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BaDayOri
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)469 Posts
September 09 2008 02:39 GMT
#15
On September 09 2008 11:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
take pictures of the weed selling kid selling weed

blackmail him with it

couldnt he like flip it on me or something and charge me for taking pictures of him/stalking him??
and no homo but you better show your boy respect, before the heck blow your head off like oral sex -CASSIDY
BreaK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada890 Posts
September 09 2008 02:49 GMT
#16
Honestly, I think just bringing up the issue (weed selling) with the kid, person to person is the best idea. Just tell him you have leverage against him and you'd really prefer this shit to stop.
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CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
September 09 2008 02:57 GMT
#17
get off boards
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 09 2008 03:45 GMT
#18
On September 09 2008 11:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
take pictures of the weed selling kid selling weed

blackmail him with it


more crime ftw
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Kletus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
September 09 2008 03:50 GMT
#19
You seem to have a worst case scenario. Here is what you do:

1)Stand up
2)Tell you parents about the DA, mailing error, etc
3)Go back to your room
4)Keep standing
5)Take off your pants
6)Start masturbating furiously
7)Play StarCraft
Your resistance only serves to make my carapace harder.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2008 04:01 GMT
#20
dont do anything stupid about it, he might get his middle-man on your ass.
if anything, from my complete naivete and lack of legal experience, go talk to the DA about it. DAs are people too.

i feel really bad for that other kid though. lol his parents are probably beating his ass for something he didn't do
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8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
September 09 2008 04:50 GMT
#21
in america we say your are SOL :/

sorry bro
I 3 pooled your mom with a napping drone, then scarabed her face. GG
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
September 09 2008 05:03 GMT
#22
Wow, what a friend you've got there. Really fucked you over. Did the guy whose stuff got stolen file a suit against just you or you and your 'friend' ? just wondering that. Also the guy whose stuff got stolen sounds like a prick too, filing a case against you considering that you really didn't do anything.

Probably the worst thing you can do is miss the court date, that can only get you into deeper shit. I doubt they can really get a lot of money out of you, since you basically only failed to stop the crime. Should say that you were to afraid to stop your friend because he knows martial arts/is 6 feet tall and 200 pounds/might have had a knife.

I bet the guy who your mail got sent to pissed himself so bad.
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 09 2008 05:20 GMT
#23
On September 09 2008 11:39 BaDayOri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2008 11:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
take pictures of the weed selling kid selling weed

blackmail him with it

couldnt he like flip it on me or something and charge me for taking pictures of him/stalking him??


First I would suggest talking to your parents.

Legally, they don't have much of a case against you. Failing to stop your friend, and later returning his stuff does not make you the cause of his bad grades. Furthermore, if you can get pictures of him selling weed in school/school property, or anywhere that is not a private residence you can just use those pictures when you get to court. Basically it is entirely legal to take pictures of anybody if they are in a public place. (Think paparazzi). Although don't get caught trying to take pictures of him without getting pictures. Then he could get you for more physiological stress or w/e for following him. Although if he selling in school this should be no problem.

Use them to show that he is far more likely to be doing bad in school due to drug use unrelated to you. (Insert picture here). Drug dealing is far more likely to make him do bad in school than losing his backpack papers for a while.

Also you can't get in trouble because they sued the wrong person, its not your fault, although you should get that corrected with the pictures and be like "Yo DA your representing a drug dealer." Case should be dropped.

If it still goes to court and you have no proof of him being a bad student on his own (what was his gpa/grades like before this incident.) you are pretty much safe. Just have your parents on your side and you shouldn't have any trouble.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
September 09 2008 09:37 GMT
#24
Assuming you have a similar system to us here in Australia.... GO AND SEE A FUCKING LAWYER.
It's called Legal Aid here in Aus, and basically they will provide a free lawyer to anyone facing criminal charges, or other related matters, if the person is under 18 years of age. Surely there is something similar where you're from. Otherwise there must be a community legal centre? Public advocates? I dont know what it is called, but I'd bet my nut sack there's something out there for you.

Stop listening to this backyard DIY advice and go see a lawyer competent in your jurisdiction.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 09 2008 09:47 GMT
#25
fuck him, seriously.
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pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 09:53:57
September 09 2008 09:52 GMT
#26
What's so special about this guy who got his shit stolen? I'll tell you: not a goddamn thing. Fuck him, let him figure it out.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 09 2008 10:55 GMT
#27
Screw him for all he's worth. Scum deserve to have the shit they fling come back and bite them square on the ass.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32106 Posts
September 09 2008 12:37 GMT
#28
You wronged him, so you're gonna get back by being a snitching little narc faggot. Good idea.

I hope you get shot in the dick by the kid you twit.
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8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
September 09 2008 13:37 GMT
#29

snitching..fuck that he shouldnt have to take the wrap for his dumbass friend

Hawk you fail at life e.e..
I 3 pooled your mom with a napping drone, then scarabed her face. GG
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
September 09 2008 14:25 GMT
#30
On September 09 2008 19:55 Plexa wrote:
Screw him for all he's worth. Scum deserve to have the shit they fling come back and bite them square on the ass.


Even if the kid's a complete jackass, the OP is the one who wronged first. He may be all apologetic about it but both guys are scum.
It felt like gravity.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32106 Posts
September 09 2008 14:54 GMT
#31
On September 09 2008 22:37 8Pylon wrote:

snitching..fuck that he shouldnt have to take the wrap for his dumbass friend

Hawk you fail at life e.e..


Take the rap? The retard said he was in the trunk with his friend, but since he 'didn't really take anything' he wants to get off scott free. Fuck that.

It may be a little dumb pressing civil charges a long time after, but being 'young and immature' isn't an excuse for being a little retard. And snitching on something that has absolutely no relevance to the matter at hand is immature retarded bullshit.

I hope you go snitch. Then he returns the favor and lets your parents know you're the idiot buying his stuff and you get the ever living hell beaten out of you.
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itzme_petey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1400 Posts
September 09 2008 15:01 GMT
#32
why the is the DA involved? isnt this a civil lawsuit?
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SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
September 09 2008 15:30 GMT
#33
On September 09 2008 10:51 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Just do all the right stuff. You didn't really do anything. Can you really get into trouble for not stopping someone from committing a crime?


haha yes you can, you can be charged with the exact same crime plus some other shit for just standing there.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
September 09 2008 15:39 GMT
#34
Also apparently the kid whos trying me is selling marijuana and usually picks up at least an ounce...maybe I should just get him fucked?


You mean the kid who was stolen from? The one who is taking you to court? He's a weed dealer? I'd say get some hard evidence and then "settle out of court". Take it to his parents and tell them they should just drop the case and nobody's the wiser.
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carotte
Profile Joined June 2008
United States32 Posts
September 09 2008 16:37 GMT
#35
But there is another korean kid at my school that is actually enrolled in school as my american name and same last name as mine. <--- ....DAVID KIM? ANDREW KIM!? DAVID PARK!? ANDREW PARK!? THAT U U SON OF A BITCH?

haha jk. -_-;;; all the same names. lolzor.
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carotte
Profile Joined June 2008
United States32 Posts
September 09 2008 16:37 GMT
#36
i'd run for mexico. i hear its cheaper there.
~Poor is the pupil who does not surpass his master
8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
September 09 2008 17:08 GMT
#37
fuck that bring down everyone with you
I 3 pooled your mom with a napping drone, then scarabed her face. GG
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
September 09 2008 18:10 GMT
#38
If you didn't do anything I dont see how you could be acused of anything. Tell them theyre retarded and that YOU didn't do anything, it was the other guy who actually did it.
BaDayOri
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)469 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 21:14:51
September 09 2008 21:14 GMT
#39
okay let me clarify some things

these were the things that were taken from the kids car:
two small speakers (not subs), his backpack with his school papers and two calculators and thats about it

here is what he claims were missing:
$100, ipod nano, and what was actually missing

of course I did wrong because I took part in being with my friend but the fact that the kid is actually trying to get some money off of me by claiming that $100 and an ipod was stolen is complete bullshit

this kid also toilet papered my close friends house and forked his lawn on halloween before the incident occured..so I never liked this guy from the start

Hawk if you still think that im being a retarded prick for SUGGESTING to expose him for holding weight, I think you are the one that is retarded. you can not tell me that you would not even think about doing the same
and no homo but you better show your boy respect, before the heck blow your head off like oral sex -CASSIDY
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32106 Posts
September 09 2008 22:24 GMT
#40
No, I wouldn't think about it because I'm not a hypocritical retard like you.

You're the fucking epitome of what is wrong with today's youth: fuck the world, I'll do what I want! But when it's time to face the reprecussions... 'HE MADE ME DO IT@!! OH AND THIS GUY'S HOLDING!! I'LL TELL YOU MORE IF YOU LET ME OUT!!!'

Class fucking act, douchebag.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
September 09 2008 23:08 GMT
#41
The way you typed your story, it sounds really sketch. You accompanied a friend as he stole stuff out of a kids open car. I seriously doubt you just stood there. (even though that alone is enough to make you guilty as well) You did a stupid thing and now your being punished for it. You can talk about ratting this guy out, but what for? You were there with your friend as he stole or you both stole this guys stuff, now your mad because your about to get in shit?

Gotta' agree with Hawk here.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2008 23:16 GMT
#42
if you have evidence/a witness involving the pot smoking you can use that as an affirmative defense against the charges maybe...

but don't do anything stupid.

you did f*ck up here, and you deserve to get punished. But this kid isn't exactly innocent either. You probably deserve all the trouble with the lawsuit, b/c if you hadn't done anything this wouldnt have happened. But they shouldn't be able to extract anything from you, and you can probably countersue for attorney's fees.
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BaDayOri
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)469 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 00:39:43
September 10 2008 00:38 GMT
#43
On September 10 2008 07:24 Hawk wrote:
No, I wouldn't think about it because I'm not a hypocritical retard like you.

You're the fucking epitome of what is wrong with today's youth: fuck the world, I'll do what I want! But when it's time to face the reprecussions... 'HE MADE ME DO IT@!! OH AND THIS GUY'S HOLDING!! I'LL TELL YOU MORE IF YOU LET ME OUT!!!'

Class fucking act, douchebag.

haha you really think thats what my attitude about this situation is like?

the main point of this blog was to ask tl if I should tell my parents about the court mail situation or just wait and chill..it was never for me to ask how to catch this guy and put him jail so that i become free

I merely suggested it thinking nobody would take me seriously and apparently people responded. Please pull your head out from your ass.
and no homo but you better show your boy respect, before the heck blow your head off like oral sex -CASSIDY
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