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MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
August 27 2008 01:24 GMT
#1
So in Chile there are these people, we call them "pokemones".
A guy in a Chilean forum posted a link to a newspaper(?) from outside of Chile that talked about these guys.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/124098

The teens call their public orgies ponceo. On a typical Friday afternoon in the Chilean capital of Santiago, hundreds gather in a leafy urban park for a few hours of sexual experimentation. Surrounded by passing strollers, they trade partners multiple times—mostly engaging in anonymous rounds of oral sex. When the party is over, no contact information is exchanged. Same-gender interactions are commonplace, as the lines between hetero- and homosexuality are blurred, partly by the alcohol and drugs consumed, but also by shifting social mores held by Chilean youth, in contrast to their conservative parents. "Ponceo is about having fun," says Natalia Fernandez, a 15-year-old with pink hair and a pierced chin. "This time I had seven partners."

Fernandez, like many others in the park, is wearing an anime T-shirt. Drawing inspiration from Japanese anime culture, the teens refer to themselves as "Pokemones." Their behavior, though, doesn't quite resemble that of the cartoon characters that once obsessed young TV watchers around the world. "It's shameless," says Gina Mazzini Aliste, a middle-aged woman in the park that day. "They act like ponceo is a competitive sport."

Not surprisingly, the Pokemones have become the subject of a national debate in the media, as the conservative Catholic society grapples with this new affront to its traditional values. In a country where abortion is banned and divorce was legalized only a few years ago, and where the specter of Augusto Pinochet's authoritarian regime still hovers over political discourse, the Pokemones are at once radical and inevitable. Radical because they are shocking Chilean society to its core. Inevitable because they are darlings of a booming neoliberal economy, which has provided them with all the material accoutrements necessary to be Pokemones. Yet along with sexual rebellion, these teens are also defined by their consumerism, a characteristic that neatly conforms to Chile's free-market ideals.

Indeed, the Pokemones are outfitted with the latest clothing and technological gadgets. Their look is androgynous and exaggerated: clad in low-slung, tight-fitting jeans, both boys and girls wear multiple piercings, dyed and waxed hair, and thick black eyeliner. They have their own Web sites, even their own slang, but what does it really mean to be a Pokemon? Curiously, the teenagers do not seem to hold any particular convictions about their identity in a political or sexual sense. Instead, their movement is mostly about image. "It's basically a fashion thing," says Raul Barra, a tall 19-year-old with piercings down the sides of his nose. "A Pokemon has a certain style and does ponceo."

Despite the group's controversial implications for identity and sexuality in the 21st century, there is virtually no discussion of a common cause at gatherings or on their Web sites and blogs. The Pokemones do not have a political creed, preferring apathy to engagement. Yet their existence as a movement is fundamentally political because of the contrast it marks vis-à-vis the dictatorship, under which freedoms were violently suppressed. "I guess we don't really think about politics or anything," says Valentina Espinosa, a petite 16-year-old whose teased platinum hair adds about six inches to her tiny stature. "We're not for anything, but we're not against anything, either—well, except our parents getting mad at us for being Pokemones."

Sociologists have labeled the Pokemones an "urban tribe," a term they have also applied to hippies, punks, and goths. But unlike those that came before it, this is the first "urban tribe" here born in the Internet age. As such, communication technology is key—Pokemones have hundreds of contacts on instant-messaging programs, and they regularly upload videos and photos to sites like YouTube and Fotolog. But despite the expanded capacity for communication, theirs may be the first movement in which debate about its goals is noticeably absent.


Absolute crap, and this is what people read about my country. They exagerated every aspect of what these fuckers do, shit like this happens when a country has no identity.

Before 1973 you were a commi or you supported Pinochet (US puppet), after that there was nothing left, nothing we can relate to (generaly speaking). So this is what's left, a bunch of kids that need to grab some attention by dressing like girls and painting their hair. Other "urban tribes" had ideals at least.





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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
August 27 2008 01:35 GMT
#2
what, so can I just walk into a park in Santiago and get an instant blow job? sign me up!
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Swarmy
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada70 Posts
August 27 2008 01:36 GMT
#3
You seem annoyed about this, but I find it quite fascinating =)
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
August 27 2008 01:40 GMT
#4
it's up to the point that they have TV shows were they talk about things like "My friend wants to be pokemon but is momy doesn't let him"... WTF, the stupidity is raising at a disturbing rate.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
August 27 2008 01:40 GMT
#5
"my country is fucked" literally... many times, too

it's kinda odd that they name themselves pokemon, though... it's almost unrelated except for that there's many of them.

and if that lady in the park saw them... does that mean they were seen? or maybe she was just sitting on a bench that could've been used for some of those ponceo activities
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
August 27 2008 01:41 GMT
#6
for a moment i thought you lived in the united states T_T
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GoldenSun
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
21 Posts
August 27 2008 01:50 GMT
#7
there are 3 pages in the news article btw
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 27 2008 01:53 GMT
#8
so whats the problem? I dont understand what you are so upset about. Can you explain a little more in detail please?
Kletus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
August 27 2008 02:05 GMT
#9
Hurry!!! I need to catch every single STD so I can be the very best, like no one ever was.
Your resistance only serves to make my carapace harder.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 27 2008 02:29 GMT
#10
lolllllll @ kletus hahaha

anyway thats weirdl ol but can u explain more? so you're saying the newsweek article is totally crap? you should send in an email to them with your views lol.

haha interesting thoug.. lol these pokemones just sound like emos really -_- tight jeans piercings teased hair.. haha black eyeliner!
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ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
August 27 2008 02:29 GMT
#11
lol.....idk what to say...>_>;;
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 02:39:31
August 27 2008 02:39 GMT
#12
On August 27 2008 11:29 ShmotZ wrote:
lol.....idk what to say...>_>;;

Same thing as Luddite?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
August 27 2008 02:41 GMT
#13
Chile, here i go.

Besides, i have a couple of ladyfriends from Chile and they are really hot.
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MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
August 27 2008 02:48 GMT
#14
On August 27 2008 11:29 alffla wrote:
lolllllll @ kletus hahaha

anyway thats weirdl ol but can u explain more? so you're saying the newsweek article is totally crap? you should send in an email to them with your views lol.

haha interesting thoug.. lol these pokemones just sound like emos really -_- tight jeans piercings teased hair.. haha black eyeliner!


yeah they are like emos, but more stupid.
The article exagerated some things, it's like if you go to a park in Chile you r going to find a big orgy, thats not true.
French_Toast
Profile Joined February 2008
United States99 Posts
August 27 2008 04:03 GMT
#15
I really don't see what the problem is.... they all decided on their own to join in an orgy and experiment with sex. Many cultures nowadays act as if sex is a crime or a BIG deal, it's really not. A public orgy seems like a great way to meet people and communicate, it could actually be helpful for some teens by giving them practice. And as for health "risks", you could always wear a condom or just stick to oral.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24775 Posts
August 27 2008 04:04 GMT
#16
On August 27 2008 13:03 French_Toast wrote:
And as for health "risks", you could always wear a condom or just stick to oral.

I think oral still carries much risk.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
August 27 2008 04:33 GMT
#17
GIVZ MEz zome puzzyz


jk, man emo kids these days
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
August 27 2008 04:58 GMT
#18
STDs! gotta catch 'em all
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 27 2008 04:58 GMT
#19
On August 27 2008 13:03 French_Toast wrote:
I really don't see what the problem is.... they all decided on their own to join in an orgy and experiment with sex. Many cultures nowadays act as if sex is a crime or a BIG deal, it's really not. A public orgy seems like a great way to meet people and communicate, it could actually be helpful for some teens by giving them practice. And as for health "risks", you could always wear a condom or just stick to oral.

Uh... 1 person could fuck up all those people's lives. Then they're gonna cry that HIV medicine costs too much.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
August 27 2008 04:58 GMT
#20
So you know, that's only 1/3rd of the article
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
August 27 2008 05:13 GMT
#21
On August 27 2008 11:48 MeriaDoKk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2008 11:29 alffla wrote:
lolllllll @ kletus hahaha

anyway thats weirdl ol but can u explain more? so you're saying the newsweek article is totally crap? you should send in an email to them with your views lol.

haha interesting thoug.. lol these pokemones just sound like emos really -_- tight jeans piercings teased hair.. haha black eyeliner!


yeah they are like emos, but more stupid.

O_O
Oh no
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
August 27 2008 05:42 GMT
#22
On August 27 2008 11:05 Kletus wrote:
Hurry!!! I need to catch every single STD so I can be the very best, like no one ever was.


gotta catch em all!!
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
August 27 2008 14:20 GMT
#23
i would like to have oral sex with some of these anime t shirt pink hair girls too
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
August 27 2008 14:23 GMT
#24
My Magikarp just evolved into Gyarados
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
August 27 2008 14:29 GMT
#25
On August 27 2008 23:23 o3.power91 wrote:
My Magikarp just evolved into Gyarados

thats a metaphore?
u mean, u are no more a lil girl , but a sexy woman now?
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32139 Posts
August 27 2008 14:34 GMT
#26
On August 27 2008 13:03 French_Toast wrote:
I really don't see what the problem is.... they all decided on their own to join in an orgy and experiment with sex. Many cultures nowadays act as if sex is a crime or a BIG deal, it's really not. A public orgy seems like a great way to meet people and communicate, it could actually be helpful for some teens by giving them practice. And as for health "risks", you could always wear a condom or just stick to oral.


I prefer to go to parks without annoying little emo like people blowing each other in the corner.

Pics of these people? I cant shake the image of some dumb emo wanna be with some horrid outfit or something, trying to be cool.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
August 27 2008 14:40 GMT
#27
Yeah probably not a good idea to let underaged kids go around and fuck eachother in public places. Most of those teenagers were probably sexually abused as a child or something.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
August 27 2008 14:40 GMT
#28
On August 27 2008 23:29 Ki_Do wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2008 23:23 o3.power91 wrote:
My Magikarp just evolved into Gyarados

thats a metaphore?
u mean, u are no more a lil girl , but a sexy woman now?

English lesson:

The word "my" is an adjective that indicates that the subject of the sentence is an item, person, or place that is currently in the speaker's/writer's/etc.'s possession. It does not indicate that the speaker/writer/etc. is the subject of the sentence. Just in case you were wondering.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
August 27 2008 14:42 GMT
#29
On August 27 2008 23:29 Ki_Do wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2008 23:23 o3.power91 wrote:
My Magikarp just evolved into Gyarados

thats a metaphore?
u mean, u are no more a lil girl , but a sexy woman now?


It's a boner joke.

...probably
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
August 27 2008 14:43 GMT
#30
...But both are quite floppy.
No I'm never serious.
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 14:46:11
August 27 2008 14:45 GMT
#31
On August 27 2008 23:40 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2008 23:29 Ki_Do wrote:
On August 27 2008 23:23 o3.power91 wrote:
My Magikarp just evolved into Gyarados

thats a metaphore?
u mean, u are no more a lil girl , but a sexy woman now?

English lesson:

The word "my" is an adjective that indicates that the subject of the sentence is an item, person, or place that is currently in the speaker's/writer's/etc.'s possession. It does not indicate that the speaker/writer/etc. is the subject of the sentence. Just in case you were wondering.


metaphore is a comparison no?
maybe he is comparing himself to his magikarp or his boner, who knows.
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
August 27 2008 14:47 GMT
#32
On August 27 2008 13:03 French_Toast wrote:
I really don't see what the problem is.... they all decided on their own to join in an orgy and experiment with sex. Many cultures nowadays act as if sex is a crime or a BIG deal, it's really not. A public orgy seems like a great way to meet people and communicate, it could actually be helpful for some teens by giving them practice. And as for health "risks", you could always wear a condom or just stick to oral.


They're underage, they're just confused and retarded teens who don't know what they're doing. Would you want your kid to go to a public sex orgy?
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
August 27 2008 14:51 GMT
#33
On August 27 2008 23:45 Ki_Do wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2008 23:40 o3.power91 wrote:
On August 27 2008 23:29 Ki_Do wrote:
On August 27 2008 23:23 o3.power91 wrote:
My Magikarp just evolved into Gyarados

thats a metaphore?
u mean, u are no more a lil girl , but a sexy woman now?

English lesson:

The word "my" is an adjective that indicates that the subject of the sentence is an item, person, or place that is currently in the speaker's/writer's/etc.'s possession. It does not indicate that the speaker/writer/etc. is the subject of the sentence. Just in case you were wondering.


metaphore is a comparison no?
maybe he is comparing himself to his magikarp or his boner, who knows.

First of all, i want to ask where the "sexy woman in comparison to Gyarados" bit came from
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 27 2008 15:24 GMT
#34
BTW that's got to smell awful. Punk emo kids don't bathe to begin with, and then throw in sex?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
August 27 2008 17:22 GMT
#35
On August 27 2008 10:40 MeriaDoKk wrote:
it's up to the point that they have TV shows were they talk about things like "My friend wants to be pokemon but is momy doesn't let him"... WTF, the stupidity is raising at a disturbing rate.

[image loading]


Anyway... what a weird situation, kids are getting more fucked up every year
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 27 2008 17:35 GMT
#36
Oh fuck it's already happened

I'm out of touch with the current generation of youth

I'm officially old.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
August 27 2008 21:30 GMT
#37
stupidity is raising at a disturbing rate


look at blizzforums.

I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 23:54:42
August 27 2008 23:49 GMT
#38
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/lifestyle/2008-01/18/content_6404561.htm

this seems normal, but the gay oral sex? it could be done without im betting.

here is what they look like. Totally ripping off of american emos!!
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 28 2008 00:03 GMT
#39
^^Those chicks are pretty tight, I'd hit them
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-28 01:00:06
August 28 2008 00:59 GMT
#40
I'm about to purchase a rattata shirt and a ticket to santiago. I hope this orgy thing is real [image loading]
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-28 02:59:58
August 28 2008 02:59 GMT
#41
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