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i deeply thought about it and i realized that if i keep watching porn at this rate (once a day, perhaps more), my life will be virtually ruined.
first of all, its ruining my relationship with God (Christianity is one of the only things i have right now)
i can already see it affecting my social life in various ways which i would prefer not to get into,
and i have to stop before its too late and i become like people i see on bnet or even tl.net
if anyone sincerely has tips, i need them badly becasue i haven't watched porn in ~36 hours and its getting harder and harder to stop myself knowing im home alone almost all day every day this summer
 
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more like your relationship with god is ruining your relationship with porn!!
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just slice of your penis and ur set?
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On July 03 2008 20:05 tube wrote:
i deeply thought about it and i realized that if i keep watching porn at this rate (once a day, perhaps more), my life will be virtually ruined.
first of all, its ruining my relationship with God (Christianity is one of the only things i have right now)
i can already see it affecting my social life in various ways which i would prefer not to get into,
and i have to stop before its too late and i become like people i see on bnet or even tl.net
if anyone sincerely has tips, i need them badly becasue i haven't watched porn in ~36 hours and its getting harder and harder to stop myself knowing im home alone almost all day every day this summer
so who here is mature...
another reason why im doing this is because im seriously interested in having a romantic and platonic relationship with a girl at my school
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get some self control, i dont see how porn can effect your outside life? i watch porn to wank then i switch it off and dont think about it anymore, i dont see how it can effect your outside life when u know its fake. im sure god doesnt mind you getting some pleasure
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i'm glad you can let external factors in life affect what your body apparently feels is natural.
how old are you?
how would porn affect your relationship with (omg!) a girl? unless you were watching gay porn and it would be very easy for her to find out? i really dont get it.
anyway you wanted some retarded advice so i would say play starcraft that'll get your mind off things?
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Just because if you're in a relationship doesn't mean you're going to have to or should stop masturbating. Frankly, she won't get you off all the time. Also watching porn doesn't affect that at all. I don't why you would even think that or what even caused you get that moronic idea into your head.
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Get a hobby, preferably one that doesn't have anything to do with computers.
Get a job and work as many hours as they'll let you.
If you believe in premarital sex, get a girlfriend and have sex.
If you don't believe in premarital sex, avoid women unless you think you can ignore their physical appeal.
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more like quitting life for god. lol.
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On July 03 2008 20:18 Tadzio00 wrote:
Get a hobby, preferably one that doesn't have anything to do with computers.
Get a job and work as many hours as they'll let you.
If you believe in premarital sex, get a girlfriend and have sex.
If you don't believe in premarital sex, avoid women unless you think you can ignore their physical appeal.
burka?
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How exactly can masturbation ruin one's social life?
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On July 03 2008 20:23 Dknight wrote:
How exactly can masturbation ruin one's social life?
cumstains are a bitch
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funny enough I'm abstaining from porn this week, and so far everything goes according to plan.
how about limiting the amount of porn you watch to once or twice a week? and if god wouldn't like you to watch porn he wouldn't have given humanity the internet, right?
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that kinda sucks since god doesnt exist
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On July 03 2008 20:17 PanoRaMa wrote:
i'm glad you can let external factors in life affect what your body apparently feels is natural.
how old are you?
how would porn affect your relationship with (omg!) a girl? unless you were watching gay porn and it would be very easy for her to find out? i really dont get it.
anyway you wanted some retarded advice so i would say play starcraft that'll get your mind off things?
most of my friends have admittedly began watching porn around the age of 13-14 and we're 16 going into our junior year. i'm trying to stop as early as possible and i don't see how age will affect what you think in a constructive way seeing how all of your "advice" thus far was complete bullshit that seemed to have no purpose but to discourage me
if you honestly think watching porn won't affect your relationships in a negative way, you're either ignorant or in denial
its true, its almost like i was asking for retarded advice as soon as i posted this on tl knowing what fucktards existed on it like you
nevertheless even if all i get from posting this is flame and "retarded advice" at least it will tell me more about the general populace's view on porn
also, i never said i was going to stop masturbating
its a healthy part of our lives and i know it
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im trying 'quitting' or slowing down porn too.. for same reasons as you. it helps me to think about your girl when you are in need. It can help for some times.
You say you are christian. maybe you could get help from that.. i dunno what you doo with your religion.. but you could read the bible or pray if that helps you.
my problem is that i have pc's everywhere and some things just scream PORN.. which isnt always bad i should add. But its hard to slowdown or entirly quit.
So think about your girl and find strength in your religion if you can. And you could think about some internet porn filter on your website.. but its easy to deactivate that when you really are in need.
gl hf..
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On July 03 2008 20:30 tube wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2008 20:17 PanoRaMa wrote:
i'm glad you can let external factors in life affect what your body apparently feels is natural.
how old are you?
how would porn affect your relationship with (omg!) a girl? unless you were watching gay porn and it would be very easy for her to find out? i really dont get it.
anyway you wanted some retarded advice so i would say play starcraft that'll get your mind off things? most of my friends have admittedly began watching porn around the age of 13-14 and we're 16 going into our junior year. i'm trying to stop as early as possible and i don't see how age will affect what you think in a constructive way seeing how all of your "advice" thus far was complete bullshit that seemed to have no purpose but to discourage me if you honestly think watching porn won't affect your relationships in a negative way, you're either ignorant or in denial its true, its almost like i was asking for retarded advice as soon as i posted this on tl knowing what fucktards existed on it like you nevertheless even if all i get from posting this is flame and "retarded advice" at least it will tell me more about the general populace's view on porn also, i never said i was going to stop masturbating its a healthy part of our lives and i know it
lolol chill the fuck out
although you not fapping does change some things (tbh your op implied that you would quit fapping, but who knows i guess im a a fucktard anyway), it's now just completely baffling that you're now quitting pornography for the worst reasons.
i mean i would understand if you made some claim like it was demeaning to women, that you were pro-abstinence, or anything legitimate, but your claims are just as retarded as the retarded advice you're asking for. (not to mention you had a direct attack on us in the OP, wtf? hahaa)
i asked how old you are because quite simply your perceptions of the world made it sound like you were 13. it was a legitimate question, and a legitimate observation. but whatever not like you're going to listen to me anyway, i'm just a godless tl.net poster.
going to sleep now, good luck.
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On July 03 2008 20:32 Jathin wrote:
tube, RebelHart already beat you to this stupid shit. Go away attention whore.
yeah he's a christian too, he wants to stop masturbating, i'm happy for him,
but you thinking that i posted this for attention shows what your opinion means, doesn't it?
i WAS looking for tips, not attention, in fact i posted this on my blog knowing that it would be forgotten 24 hours later
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On July 03 2008 20:30 tube wrote:
most of my friends have admittedly began watching porn around the age of 13-14 and we're 16 going into our junior year. i'm trying to stop as early as possible and i don't see how age will affect what you think in a constructive way seeing how all of your "advice" thus far was complete bullshit that seemed to have no purpose but to discourage me
The reason they're discouraging you is because they think it's a bad idea. Though they may have mixed up your message and thought you were giving up masturbation, which is IMO basically impossible, with nothing to gain.
if you honestly think watching porn won't affect your relationships in a negative way, you're either ignorant or in denial
I'm not trying to be rude, but are you kidding? When you're 16, you can't help being ignorant like this, but it's not your fault really.
Are you unable to manage your time well enough that you could watch porn/masturbate without it affecting your social life? Have you no personal time? You must have a computer. Close the door to your room, put on headphones, and watch whatever you want.
its true, its almost like i was asking for retarded advice as soon as i posted this on tl knowing what fucktards existed on it like you
nevertheless even if all i get from posting this is flame and "retarded advice" at least it will tell me more about the general populace's view on porn
That's not very nice. You weren't really asking for retarded advice, you were just asking a retarded question. Most people have dealt with this easily by themselves by managing their personal time and their social time, and keeping them separate. Or, if they have a busy schedule, they just hold off on their "personal time" until they actually have time for it. I assume if you were busy you could wait until you had some personal time to masturbate. That's what the rest of the world does, and they don't have to ask for advice online.
And the general view on porn isn't really what's being shown here. What's being shown here is the general view on religion: A lot of people think it's stupid to inconvenience yourself like this based on religion. Of course, your views are your own.
also, i never said i was going to stop masturbating
its a healthy part of our lives and i know it
I'm happy to hear that.
The only possible advice for you if you really can't manage your time is to masturbate without porn.
I hope this helped.
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On July 03 2008 20:30 tube wrote:
if you honestly think watching porn won't affect your relationships in a negative way, you're either ignorant or in denial
Or you're just a normal person who doesn't make a big deal about what harmless activity people do in their spare time? When I go to my friend's house and see porn links in their browsing history they just go "yeah I was bored" and maybe "check out this site some time it's good".
On July 03 2008 20:30 tube wrote:
its true, its almost like i was asking for retarded advice as soon as i posted this on tl knowing what fucktards existed on it like you
nevertheless even if all i get from posting this is flame and "retarded advice" at least it will tell me more about the general populace's view on porn
Yeah you really asked for it the moment you mentioned god.
I'd be more afraid of the ceiling cats watching you, they really do exist.
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To be honest, I don't believe porn is harmless. Porn stars are exploited in very extreme ways, and by watching porn you feed into that. But it's pretty clear to me that you've decided to avoid porn for selfish reasons. That's fine, I'm not trying to insult.
Personally, I watch porn for selfish reasons, despite my awareness and disgust at the exploitation of women (who were most likely abused/raped as children, and almost certainly lacked a healthy upbringing). My personal reasons have less to do with pleasure and more to do with sanity. I have a very strict principle I try to adhere to in my social life: to never masturbate while thinking about someone I know. This is because, at least for me, it's incredibly hard to be around an attractive friend and act normal when the temptation to look for future masturbation-fantasy material is so great. How do you avoid gawking at your friend's double Ds, or committing her ass to memory, if you limit your sources for masturbation subjects? For me, porn was a way to treat friends like people, and not sex objects.
It sounds like it works differently for you, though. Although I'd assume you're projecting (blaming porn for your social etiquette, when its role in how you behave is almost assuredly minimal), I can't be sure. Maybe where porn provides me with relief from the social awkwardness involved in imagining my friends naked, it may actually make you more socially awkward. Either way, you'll find out fast enough. Hope it works out for ya... and if it doesn't, I hope you start using porn again before you rape someone out of desperation for sexual stimulants. 
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Porn is one of the most wonderful things of God's creation. Why not enjoy it? I, for one, haven't been struck by a lightning yet while jerking off.
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I read the whole thread and I really don't understand what the OP's actual problem is.
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Why is everyone massively flaming this poor guy? Good luck to you, although, don't expect quitting porn to be some magic remedy that brings success to your relationship with girls.
Stay away from "Day #" threads as well.
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On July 03 2008 20:14 tube wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2008 20:05 tube wrote:
i deeply thought about it and i realized that if i keep watching porn at this rate (once a day, perhaps more), my life will be virtually ruined.
first of all, its ruining my relationship with God (Christianity is one of the only things i have right now)
i can already see it affecting my social life in various ways which i would prefer not to get into,
and i have to stop before its too late and i become like people i see on bnet or even tl.net
if anyone sincerely has tips, i need them badly becasue i haven't watched porn in ~36 hours and its getting harder and harder to stop myself knowing im home alone almost all day every day this summer so who here is mature... another reason why im doing this is because im seriously interested in having a romantic and platonic relationship with a girl at my school
Having a romantic AND platonic relationship with a girl is just asking for trouble 
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seriously though, porn itself is often very dumbed down and sexist and doesnt really promote a "healthy" view of women and anyone who doesnt agree is probably too young or wants to be a hardass
so i definately understand your point and whether its about god or something else, no one cant feel that good in the long run if your ADDICTED to porn, then it just becomes another addiction.
you shouldnt have started this thread here, some people are just too "haha porn rulez" mainly because of age and maturity I guess. People will just joke around about it
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I went through this myself when I became a Christian it took me months to get over the hurdle.
If you really really want it to stop and tell God your never doing it again with his help then there comes a time when it just switches off and your pure. Just conciously avoid going anywhere near things of that subject matter, divert your mind (load up starcraft maybe?) when you start getting thoughts and God will start to help you when he see's your trying.
As I said it took a few months but I'm over it now pretty exclusively.
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Good for you. Don't listen to the people mocking you. Even if God didn't exist (I'm a Christian too), it's still a noble thing to want to be able to control your mind and body and guard it against detestable things. I know in my case I was around 10-12 and I found something my dad was looking at and I've been trying to throw it off ever since then. It's not easy, but I think I'm nearing the point where I can ignore the temptation.
Some advice:
Involve other people that you know. I know one's first reaction is the furthest thing from that, but if other people know about it and can check up on how you're doing, it makes it that much easier.
Stay away from things that inflame the urge. This is particularly true on the internet.... you can save yourself a lot of pain by just avoiding certain websites, threads, etc.
Set a goal. Make it small at first, then when you meet that one set another one. Keep track of it in a notepad file or in a journal or something. Reward yourself with something when you meet them. Making short range goals and a long range one can be quite useful. I know my long term goal is one year, and I've promised myself I will not get in a relationship until I've reached that goal. Sounds kind of crazy, but really I'm in no hurry to get in a relationship anyways, and you know what? It seems to be working so far. I haven't had the slightest desire to look at porn since then.
When you get the urge, make it habit to do something else. I know in my case the urge often comes late at night, so whenever my desire starts to increase I go to sleep. Once you're in the habit of doing something else, you'll start doing it almost automatically without letting things get out of hand.
If you want more advice or support private message me, I'm not going to check this particular blog entry again because I'm sure the mocking will be than I care to deal with. :p
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LOL so much controversy jsut cuz some guy wants to stop wackin it
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Odd blog, but there was a story put on general not long ago about a forum with people doiing the same thing as you.
edit: here it is
www.teensagainstporn.com
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Porn is kind of more important then magic sky man
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first of all, its ruining my relationship with God
You came to the wrong place.
so who here is mature...
Certainly not you.
IMO you're quitting pornography for the wrong reasons. There are good reasons, I will admit, but for God is not one of them. You're using God as a crutch to make it seem like your goal is some holy undeniably honourable mission you'll never have to question. That might help you quit, but in the long run it will make you a douche bag who can't think for himself. Quit because you think it's feeding dangerous drug addictions, quit because you think it promotes unhealthy ideals, quit because you think it lowers sex drive for realistic sex, quit because you think it's disrespectful in a monogamous relationship, quit because you think you have a problem and you can't budget your time properly. But for the love of God, don't act righteous and tell everyone how much closer you are to God because you made a personal alteration in your lifestyle (which is the smallest, first step, to getting anything done and maybe possibly not even for sure helping humanity).
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porn helps
now image some dude who hasn't watched any porn in his life
fail
EDIT: ok seriously, i have some trick. Keep a picture of God next to the monitor so that everytime u have the temptation, god will save u from err. lust. its sin its sin
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i kinda lost interest in porn at 15-16
cuz i realised i the real thing was way cooler and porn is just stress relief
now i watch it 1-2 times a week
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now i watch it 1-2 times a week
That's hardly losing interest lol.
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losing interest would be once every 6 months
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On July 04 2008 01:54 PsycHOTemplar wrote:That's hardly losing interest lol.
used to watch it almost every day man
5-7 times a week
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If God had intended us not to masturbate he would've made our arms shorter.
– George Carlin, RIP
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I have a solution that works EVERY TIME. It may be extreme but its 100% success rate even in the most stressful of times.
kill yourself.
but seriously man dont be a pussy and just dont look at porn. If you have a gf or a girl you respect you will naturally feel bad to look at porn, which would be the best way. Just get to know her better first off then remember god doesn't exist and man up. Or make it all link to gay porn so you have to not watch it. unless your into that stuff.
edit: Also RIP George Carlin
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grow a pair of balls and quit, i hate when ppl can't quit shit. just quit doing it. nike ya!
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gl.... lol its only been 2 days and you're having trouble already? God be with you.
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masturbation combats prostate cancer...
and there is no god...
masturbation wins...
In all seriousness, porn / masturbation has absolutely 0 effect on relationships unless...
A) You are a chronic masturbater and you can't even go on a date without whipping it out
B) You think what goes on in porns should go on in the bedroom all the time
Those problems are all mental problems, so the conclusion is you are mentally unstable, which since you think masturbation is bad, is case in point.
GG sir
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In all seriousness, porn / masturbation has absolutely 0 effect on relationships unless...
I think that's a bit naive. Imagine your girlfriend looks at naked guys who are not you and masturbates to them. Suddenly that's not really that cool. Unless, I don't know, you're into that kinda thing...
While you may think "I don't care if my girlfriend looks at porn, in fact, I think that's pretty cool and liberating," once you rephrase it as "I don't care if my girlfriend looks at other naked guys and masturbates, in fact, I think that's pretty cool and liberating" you see it's almost a matter of semantics on whether or not you feel totally comfortable with it. It's kinda like guys who fantasize about a threesome... Well would it be so cool if the third person was another guy using your girl? lol
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On July 04 2008 06:01 PsycHOTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +
In all seriousness, porn / masturbation has absolutely 0 effect on relationships unless...
I think that's a bit naive. Imagine your girlfriend looks at naked guys who are not you and masturbates to them. Suddenly that's not really that cool. Unless, I don't know, you're into that kinda thing... While you may think "I don't care if my girlfriend looks at porn, in fact, I think that's pretty cool and liberating," once you rephrase it as "I don't care if my girlfriend looks at other naked guys and masturbates, in fact, I think that's pretty cool and liberating" you see it's almost a matter of semantics on whether or not you feel totally comfortable with it. It's kinda like guys who fantasize about a threesome... Well would it be so cool if the third person was another guy using your girl? lol
when you a cool gf you dont need to look at porn, again to the OP, just stop it and get off the fucking computer
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On July 03 2008 20:32 Jathin wrote:
tube, RebelHart already beat you to this stupid shit. Go away attention whore.
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i really don't care if my girlfriend looks at porn, but it's typically not a girls thing. She knows I watch porn when I want to relieve myself, and if she wants to do the same, she can.
There is a huge difference between watching porn and wanting to have someone else to sleep with, so maybe you are naive?
However, if he wants to stop, then my advice is the same as everyone elses, just fucking stop.
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There is a huge difference between watching porn and wanting to have someone else to sleep with, so maybe you are naive?
I would say "You a bitch," if you were cool with your girlfriend looking at other naked guys while she masturbates. On the other hand, if you look at porn, you might feel like a boss because your girlfriend's your bitch because she doesn't complain.
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i'm thinking that was some kind of insult....
not a very good one though
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hmm, porn isn't inherently bad in any way:/
could you please point out some specific example of how it is hurting your life and relationships?
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My problem is I'm addicted to gay porn. I've tried to stop surfing the web and read the Bible, but everytime I gaze into the beautiful hazel eyes of Jesus, our Lord and  sAviOr, and think about his bronze rib cage I get a massive boner.
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On July 04 2008 00:29 zer0das wrote:
I know in my case I was around 10-12 and I found something my dad was looking at and I've been trying to throw it off ever since then.
Ok, that's probably enough to make someone quit.
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On July 04 2008 06:01 PsycHOTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +
In all seriousness, porn / masturbation has absolutely 0 effect on relationships unless...
I think that's a bit naive. Imagine your girlfriend looks at naked guys who are not you and masturbates to them. Suddenly that's not really that cool. Unless, I don't know, you're into that kinda thing...
My fiancee looks at porn occasionally, both guys and girls, though mostly couples. We watch it together from time to time, too.
There's nothing wrong with it unless you're insecure or she does it more than she wants to do things with/to you, which works the same for both genders. Of course it can cause problems between couples, but like I said, it's only ever born out of insecurity, the same as jealousy, or addiction, in which case it's a problem with the person, not the porn.
I think it would be more naive to say that you believe your girlfriend should only ever be sexually attracted to you.
Anyway, on the main topic...Porn is (well, most of it) just crude imitation of real life sex and yeah, a lot of it objectifies people. But, so what? For starters, sometimes people like being objectified, being the object of undeniable lust for another. To follow that, anyone not able to go out into the world and tell the difference between porn and real life to the point where it damages their relationships is either completely inexperienced or just plain stupid. To have that same degree of intelligence, you must think that all cars in any wreck ever explode after having watched a series of Michael Bay movies.
Inexperience is not a cause to stop, though, so long as you know as you're watching porn that you can still say that you know this isn't how it really is. It's just hot images and sounds, providing stimulation for you in the same way as a movie or book. It's not real, never will be, but you enjoy what it does for you.
Now, giving it up because you don't wanna do it anymore is perfectly fine. Just quit, then. If you seriously need advice, go outside more, find more things to do, especially with other people. Keep yourself busy or stop hanging out by yourself so often.
With that said, it is annoying to say that you need help doing it - if you're consistently going back to it, it means you want to do it still, but are being told by others that you shouldn't want it in the first place. To which I say, live your own life, though it is doubtful that one would in such a situation, because not having the willpower to stop most probably means you don't have the willpower to go against your current peers.
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I don't think all porn objectifies women. The porn I enjoy shows women being full fledged partners in the enjoyment.
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On July 04 2008 07:30 GeneralStan wrote:
I don't think all porn objectifies women. The porn I enjoy shows women being full fledged partners in the enjoyment.
I first read that as "full fledged panthers." I wanted to ask for a copy. 
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There's nothing wrong with it unless you're insecure or she does it more than she wants to do things with/to you, which works the same for both genders. Of course it can cause problems between couples, but like I said, it's only ever born out of insecurity, the same as jealousy, or addiction, in which case it's a problem with the person, not the porn.
Whatever you say ;P That arguments about as logical as me saying if you're looking at porn you're not sexually fulfilled by your spouse fiancee (is this the kind I hear about from people in high school/barely out of high school, because those are god damn hilarious XD). It's hollow and has holes, because things are not so simple.
I think it would be more naive to say that you believe your girlfriend should only ever be sexually attracted to you.
Sure, but it's not what I said.
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On July 04 2008 06:01 PsycHOTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +
In all seriousness, porn / masturbation has absolutely 0 effect on relationships unless...
I think that's a bit naive. Imagine your girlfriend looks at naked guys who are not you and masturbates to them. Suddenly that's not really that cool. Unless, I don't know, you're into that kinda thing... While you may think "I don't care if my girlfriend looks at porn, in fact, I think that's pretty cool and liberating," once you rephrase it as "I don't care if my girlfriend looks at other naked guys and masturbates, in fact, I think that's pretty cool and liberating" you see it's almost a matter of semantics on whether or not you feel totally comfortable with it. It's kinda like guys who fantasize about a threesome... Well would it be so cool if the third person was another guy using your girl? lol
Amen to that
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On July 03 2008 20:47 Nytefish wrote:I'd be more afraid of the ceiling cats watching you, they really do exist.
Sorry, I had to.
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On July 04 2008 07:43 PsycHOTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +There's nothing wrong with it unless you're insecure or she does it more than she wants to do things with/to you, which works the same for both genders. Of course it can cause problems between couples, but like I said, it's only ever born out of insecurity, the same as jealousy, or addiction, in which case it's a problem with the person, not the porn. Whatever you say ;P That arguments about as logical as me saying if you're looking at porn you're not sexually fulfilled by your spouse fiancee (is this the kind I hear about from people in high school/barely out of high school, because those are god damn hilarious XD). It's hollow and has holes, because things are not so simple. Show nested quote +I think it would be more naive to say that you believe your girlfriend should only ever be sexually attracted to you. Sure, but it's not what I said.
What sort of holes does my argument have? I honestly can't see any reason for being bothered by your partner masturbating fantasizing about someone else/looking at pictures unless you do not feel secure in your relationship and/or about her level of attraction to you with others involved.
As for the second part, it's how I interpreted what you said. However, that you don't adhere to my interpretation makes me believe that you're okay with her being so, so long as it isn't expressed through physical means such as masturbating?
If so, that doesn't change the premise of my statement or argument.
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Watching porno in my teenages was very educational to me...
never really quited, some weeks i see a lot of porn, others i dont see any at all..
I watched porn with my last girlfriend, we enjoy movies toghether, some of them, other we dont, as couple.
I think you are really lost.
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is that site a joke????
cant believe it!!!
porn is a kind of posmodern art.
+ Show Spoiler + just third line is joke, i actually cant believe that site is for real
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I don't really have advice so much as a few questions:
If masturbation is OK - "a healthy part of our lives" - then what is not OK about porn? First of all, the bible seems to state that masturbation is a sin, and masturbation has been treated as sin by Christians for millennia. The Bible, for one thing, says that it is a sin to spill your seed upon the ground (implying that the purpose of sex is procreation, not stress relief, health, "mere" pleasure, etc). And it seems to be the case that lusting after women is a sin, since to have sex with a woman in your mind is considered the same as having sex with her in real life, and since you aren't married, sex would be sinful for you. So, I'm curious where your standard comes from - why is masturbation OK and porn not OK?
What changes between a representation of sex within your mind and a representation of sex on a screen that makes the latter sinful and the former healthy?
Last, perhaps it is true that porn can somehow interfere with your life, but even so, why is it necessary to completely quit viewing porn? In other words, why is it necessary to have an all or nothing approach to this? Is it really impossible to find a middle road?
Personally, at nearly age 25, I love masturbation, and masturbate daily. I masturbate with pornographic magazines, with pornographic videos, and with only my imagination. All are enjoyable for me, and I don't see what is particularly unhealthy about using porn for stimulation versus using a purely mental fantasy for stimulation.
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I should add to my last post that I've never been with a woman that minded me viewing porn. I'm presently seeing a girl who has watched all kinds of porn and we have discussed porn in some detail. It is amusing to both of us.
Many women view porn and enjoy it on some level. My personal feeling is that porn may have a negative effect on some relationships, but it may also have a positive effect on others. I believe that in general it won't really influence things in either direction. Why would it? If it does, I would think masturbation would too, yet to my knowledge, there is no evidence to suggest masturbation is anything but a healthy part of relationships. I tend to masturbate much more when I am in a sexual relationship with a woman. I also find masturbation with a partner to be very fun and worthwhile.
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United States10774 Posts
On July 03 2008 20:30 NotSupporting wrote:
There is NO god.
yes there is :O!
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United States24601 Posts
On July 05 2008 15:06 OneOther wrote:yes there is :O!
You convinced me!
I think discussion on 'is there a god' should be illegal... I've never once seen anything positive come out of it.
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Let's hijack this thread and turn it into, "Does God exist?"
That would be infinitely more satisfying to read.
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