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On June 04 2008 16:38 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2008 13:40 cava wrote: Black people probably write more about racial issues because more black people are held back due to racism whereas white people generally are not. Its easy ro pretend racism doesn't exist when you are white. Since when are black people held back in sports? The majority of the NFL and NBA are black players... When it gets to hockey, and baseball I don't think that's true anymore. They're held back from coaching and executive positions in the NFL.
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thedeadhaji
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exactly what I was going to say.
Also, their mistakes are typically magnified.
recall: Barry Bonds' vs Roger Clemens.
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god. Jaemele Hill or w/e the fuck her name is ... SO BAD. her articles are more disgusting to look at than feces.
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The racism goes both ways in the NBA and NCAA. White players are described as intelligent, and hard working, while black players are athletic, dexterous etc.
Brent Barry could sprint past most players and jump over them, but you never heard him described as a superathlete.
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lol. Damn, race is going to be a big issue for a long time in America. Not that it's an better in England, but I like to think that the media are further away from constant jibber jabber about race issues. They tend to flare up from time to time in the press, and then disappear just as quickly. Seems like the more worrying issues in England are crime, schooling, taxes etc; and no one has time to bicker about the colour of their skin.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
RACIST SRACITS RACISTFADKLSF
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People on read this because its you Haji.
Racism holds the white people down. Fuck you affirmative action.
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thedeadhaji
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lol wut u be speaking to an azn boi.
Cal had a fucking CAP on asians back in the 70's man LOLOLOL we be opressed!!
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we are still oppressed as asians
17% asians 17% black
out of applicant pool 30% asian 10% black
wait wha
on a side note its b/c white people don't care about racism and asians don't like sports. every asian and his grandma wants to become an engineer/doctor/lawyer
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well scoop jackson was basically hired to write editorial stuff, and race is a big issue for him, so it's natural for him to write those types of articles
besides, do you really care what marc stein thinks about racism in the NBA? or what ric bucher or dick vitale have to say? I don't
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thedeadhaji
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I'd rather read a racial piece from a white dude than a black dude actually, b/c the black dude on espn ALWAYS takes the position of "the world is against us" and when the writer is part of the "us", it's really annoying =/. Writer should be detatched from the subject? idunno.
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United States22883 Posts
On June 04 2008 19:12 HamerD wrote: lol. Damn, race is going to be a big issue for a long time in America. Not that it's an better in England, but I like to think that the media are further away from constant jibber jabber about race issues. They tend to flare up from time to time in the press, and then disappear just as quickly. Seems like the more worrying issues in England are crime, schooling, taxes etc; and no one has time to bicker about the colour of their skin. Well we've had a much more recent and brutal past with the race issue. The Civil War only made the issue subside for a couple of decades, after Reconstruction it picked up again well into the 20th century. There'd probably be much less racial tension if we'd lost the Revolutionary War.
That said, the UK and Europe has its own issues with discrimination and bigotry, especially with Muslims. In that regard, MUCH more assimilation has occurred in the US than over there.
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On June 05 2008 01:28 thedeadhaji wrote: I'd rather read a racial piece from a white dude than a black dude actually, b/c the black dude on espn ALWAYS takes the position of "the world is against us" and when the writer is part of the "us", it's really annoying =/. Writer should be detatched from the subject? idunno. Read more Whitlock. The dude is totally racist against black people, and he is black.
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thedeadhaji
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awesome. sounds like bill crosby.
edit: well actually it's not that i don't want to hear "blacks are being fucked" period. It's just that it's annoying when the writers make it sound like they're getting fucked too and they're opressed etc.
although they really prolly are being opressed.
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thedeadhaji
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opressed I think is supposed to be oppressed isnt it.
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thedeadhaji
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UK's discrimination is weirdddd man. It's much more about class than race here I think. Much moreso than in the states.
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On June 04 2008 11:14 thedeadhaji wrote: Ever time I see an article about race on espn.com, it is invariably written by a black writer. It really is. Whether it be Stephen A. Smith, Scoop Jackson, or that woman whose name I don't remember b/c her writing isn't that hot, it's always written by black writers. Obviously it's b/c they are more sensitive to racial issues and perhaps have more of an eye for it, or perhaps their editors tell them to write things like that b/c their prose will be more tolerated than that of a white counterpart.
I wish there were some sort of semblance of balance b/w the various ethnicities w/ regards to race as a subject for a piece, b/c as it is, it's really rather ... petty.
That's the American media for you. They're convinced that if they run enough stories about imagined racial injustices, the gods of multiculturalism will resurrect Frederick Douglas to give them a slap on the back and a hearty "it's all good!".
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On June 04 2008 18:22 thedeadhaji wrote: exactly what I was going to say.
Also, their mistakes are typically magnified.
recall: Barry Bonds' vs Roger Clemens.
I think that's pretty easy to argue that Bonds is a huge shit head personality wise, where Clemens is marginally a dick.
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On June 05 2008 01:59 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2008 18:22 thedeadhaji wrote: exactly what I was going to say.
Also, their mistakes are typically magnified.
recall: Barry Bonds' vs Roger Clemens. I think that's pretty easy to argue that Bonds is a huge shit head personality wise, where Clemens is marginally a dick.
Clemens blows off Make-a-Wish kids. He's a scumbag.
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On June 05 2008 01:59 tttt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2008 01:59 Hawk wrote:On June 04 2008 18:22 thedeadhaji wrote: exactly what I was going to say.
Also, their mistakes are typically magnified.
recall: Barry Bonds' vs Roger Clemens. I think that's pretty easy to argue that Bonds is a huge shit head personality wise, where Clemens is marginally a dick. Clemens blows off Make-a-Wish kids. He's a scumbag.
Notice I didn't say he's a great dude? He's just not overtly a shithead like Bonds is/was, telling the media to piss off (at least prior to this past year), being a shithead to teamates ,etc.
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