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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 13:14:22
May 16 2008 13:14 GMT
#21
It is correct grammar wise.
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 13:17:58
May 16 2008 13:16 GMT
#22
It sounds perfectly normal to me, in fact that's how I normally speak.


"Holy shit, Vallejo is gonna be fucking hot today" instead of "Holy shit it's going to be fucking hot in Vallejo today"...in fact that latter actually seems a bit weird because of the extra words it takes to pretty much say the same thing.

I'm not sure about everyone else, but when I speak (as well as alot of people I know) we generally try to say things with the least amount of words possible.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 16 2008 13:18 GMT
#23
^ neither of them sound odd to me though >_<_>~~_<>~_<~ confusion o wells
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himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 13:19:59
May 16 2008 13:18 GMT
#24
yeah it is correct; its not very odd either.

Consider : Four people can sit in the Car -> The Car Seats four people


I think that is a more common example which people will be familiar with.


edit: damn somebody posted this same shit like a long time ago

Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 14:42:12
May 16 2008 13:19 GMT
#25
On May 16 2008 22:18 alffla wrote:
^ neither of them sound odd to me though >_<_>~~_<>~_<~ confusion o wells

lol, ok it's not really weird, it wouldn't freak me out if someone started talking like that. However it's different from how I'm used to speaking. Or it could just be a California thing, you know because we have to talk really fast to each other while we're passing by on our surfboards while we surf to work

A person can eat this burger.
This burger eats a person.

I know that's different from what we're talking about (and it should be "This burger feeds a person" anyways), but that phrase just came into my head and I couldn't stop laughing for about 30 seconds for some reason.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 16 2008 13:36 GMT
#26
I know it's correct in other forms, but the particular phrase "This tent sleeps four people." doesn't sit well with me. No point drawing a parallel to other usages of it, or we might as well refer to the first reply.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
May 16 2008 13:43 GMT
#27
It's just a transitive verb form of sleeps, I'm surprised so many people are unused to it.

2. To provide sleeping accommodations for: This tent sleeps three comfortably.
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
May 16 2008 13:50 GMT
#28
it is correct, but it sounds really strange, although a lot of people do use it regularly.
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Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
May 16 2008 14:02 GMT
#29
I always use "This tent sleeps x people.".
Its like...how you talk about tents xD
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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
May 16 2008 14:11 GMT
#30
On May 16 2008 19:45 infinity21 wrote:
This bed fucks two people? HMMM


Actually, think about this particular example's inverse.

Two people fuck a bed? ~_~
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
May 16 2008 14:25 GMT
#31
On May 16 2008 20:46 katona wrote:
That's fucking incorrect.
Tell your professor to dive into a pile of rusty AIDS-infested needles.


rofl stupid.




It's correct. It just is. English is weird and its the language with the most expections.
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Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
May 16 2008 14:39 GMT
#32
On May 16 2008 23:25 MiniRoman wrote:
It's correct. It just is. English is weird and its the language with the most expections.


Most exceptions? Try Russian
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 16 2008 14:40 GMT
#33
Technically it may be correct, but it would not be used in conversation in english speaking countries.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
May 16 2008 14:44 GMT
#34
It makes sense but I wouldn't normally use it.
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 16 2008 15:41 GMT
#35
No it's fucking wrong. Since when does "sleep" also mean "allow people to sleep in"?
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
May 16 2008 15:48 GMT
#36
I don't know if it's correct English, but around here at least (San Francisco bay area) it's very common to hear people speak like that.
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 16:15:31
May 16 2008 16:10 GMT
#37
As others have said, it is grammatically correct. Take a car for example:

Four people can sit in this car.
to
This car seats four people.

It's just a different way of stating it. I don't believe it is commonplace in many native English speakers minds or dialect, but it is grammatically sound. The only reason I think "this tent sleeps four people" is bugging some people here is that sleep is used as a verb somewhat oddly here. However, it is proper grammatically; it just doesn't automatically make sense without being used to it.

The place you're most likely to hear phrases like that is if you're watching TV ads or looking to buy something from a salesperson. In my experience, they use this kind of phrasing fairly often.

Edit: Haha, I'm the third person who went directly to the car sentence.
Think. :)
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
May 16 2008 16:20 GMT
#38
It is correct, and this is how tents are commonly described. Seriously, go buy a tent.

search for "this tent sleeps" on google

It would be wrong to say it applies to every verb.
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 16:24:19
May 16 2008 16:23 GMT
#39
On May 17 2008 00:41 Luddite wrote:
No it's fucking wrong. Since when does "sleep" also mean "allow people to sleep in"?


It always has, check a dictionary.

v. slept (slěpt), sleep·ing, sleeps
v. intr.
1. To be in the state of sleep or to fall asleep.
2. To be in a condition resembling sleep.

v. tr.
1. To pass or get rid of by sleeping: slept away the day; went home to sleep off the headache.
2. To provide sleeping accommodations for: This tent sleeps three comfortably.
3. To sleep at one's place of employment: a butler and a chauffeur who sleep in.
4.
1. To oversleep: I missed the morning train because I slept in.
2. To sleep late on purpose: After this week's work, I will sleep in on Saturday.
5. To sleep at one's own home, not at one's place of employment.
6. To sleep away from one's home.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 16 2008 17:45 GMT
#40
it's technically correct, but you cannot generalize this to every verb (see infinity21's example. whoever mentioned the inverse was wrong. the real inverse would be 'two people can fuck in this bed' which is perfectly fine). plus, in this particular case, most people would say something else as that usage of the word sleep is really odd
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