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kdog3683
United States916 Posts
I always hear my mom talk about Math in China = Crazy Gosu compared to U.S. I just took Math IB HL exam and I felt it was a beast of a test. I decided to DL a chinese entrance math test for College. Thing is, I can't understand any of it... If anybody here Chinese can help, can I send you the file and you translate it for me into English? Thx   | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
edit: sorry wrong thread. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
but I can't help with translating  | ||
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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kdog3683
United States916 Posts
titus - Whats "藏" supposed to be | ||
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tttt
United States386 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
and got a 4 cuz i totally didnt give a shit good luck. my chinese sucks balls too.  | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
"藏" is a character used in names Japanese samurai uses it also. namely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
On May 10 2008 14:39 kdog3683 wrote: ib is international though so Kids in china + japan + india etc also take it. They probably ruin the grade curve for the rest of us though -_-; titus - Whats "藏" supposed to be It's just phonetic (is that what you call it?) for Daezang. "Da-Zahn" | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
he said that in the US, he was able to take much more difficult math than he would have been able to do in China (for example they don't have high level calc available for non university students in China, but here you can take it)... but he said that they go into exponentially more detail with basic stuff like geometry, algebra, etc .. so they know it like the back of their hand. I guess its their insanely strong foundation with math that makes them so much better when they come here and start taking more difficult math. IMO a lot of things that trips people up with math is just the basic stuff, like algebra, which Chinese people apparently know very well. | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
What Xeris said is pretty true though, also on a lower level Chinese (or in my case, Taiwanese) education covers stuff relatively faster early on, and with greater depth for HS. Haven't really heard of people really taking calculus in HS though, but they do drill the precalc principles down hard, which comes in handy with some of the higher level math...sort of. | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
The emphasis on basics is so insane ~~ It makes sense, though. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
EDIT - Won't be able to translate all those tests lol, not with me having finals myself, but I can do a bit. Skimmed over a few, like I said, up to precalc. Heavy details into geometry and trig (makes sense) and proofs. EDIT2 - Someone remember whether precalc covered optimization? Never took it  | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
Toss in some basic probability to what I said before. Also, should clarify, everything is below an introductionary course level for college, though fairly complex and in-depth questions. | ||
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Daveed
United States236 Posts
On May 10 2008 14:38 useLess wrote: ya, i remember there was a picture comparison of math entrance exams for US and for China. US had some basic shit like finding the length given a right triangle, while China had something much more complex. I saw that article, but the Chinese exam question was still trivial. It was just the figure that made it look intimidating (and, if I recall correctly, the absence of a translation for that). Anyhow, math in China is pretty advanced, but you don't have to look all the way to China for nice math questions. There are plenty of math contests (in English) that have stuff posted online. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
You will never learn high calculus or probability while in high school but basic stuff like algebra are done to death and students generally memories questions patterns and go through like tons of questions. it's beneficial in the sense that the foundation for further knowledge are build well but most of it are wasted when college comes >.< | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
it all evens out when you reach college tho. | ||
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Danger_Duck
Burkina Faso571 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
The learning pace in mathematics seemed always slow to me anyway, I would have preferred some challenge in school. I got that in university ^^ | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On May 10 2008 19:38 Maenander wrote: I just read some german reports about chinese middle schools. Yes, the level of the tests is high, but I also heard you learn algorithms for solving every single problem like a robot ... as long as they proof them, it sounds like the way to go. | ||
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Polyphasic
United States841 Posts
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LegendaryDreams
Canada1350 Posts
On May 10 2008 20:08 Polyphasic wrote: comparing china's math to US's math, is like comparing US's standard social skills with China's standard social skills. That's a completely different topic regarding cultural differences, and I'm pretty sure you would severely struggle to fit inside a community if you lived in China. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
this also explains why some say it all evens out in college. when the minimum to medium effort self practice no longer makes much difference, the pace of learning slows down. in uni, self study is the majority of what goes on academically. while we could say chinese students have always been studying by themselves, spending as much time to reach the desired goals as necessary, the u.s. students are just late to the party. if you go to school in america and study like you were in a chinese school, you'll either just be bored with your level, or if fortunate, you can access better resources in fast track programs and do just as well or better. | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
gogo cram schools fighting~ | ||
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