Hi, I'm also Chinese, but I can only read very basic stuff.

I always hear my mom talk about Math in China = Crazy Gosu compared to U.S.

I just took Math IB HL exam and I felt it was a beast of a test.

I decided to DL a chinese entrance math test for College.
Thing is, I can't understand any of it...

If anybody here Chinese can help, can I send you the file and you translate it for me into English? Thx

Titusmaster6

United States5937 Posts

May 10 2008 05:33 GMT

大藏我爱你!

edit: sorry wrong thread.

Wizard

Poland5055 Posts

May 10 2008 05:35 GMT

comparing chinese math level to us level [even ib] is like korea vs the world at sc

but I can't help with translating

useLess

United States4781 Posts

May 10 2008 05:38 GMT

ya, i remember there was a picture comparison of math entrance exams for US and for China. US had some basic shit like finding the length given a right triangle, while China had something much more complex.

Ecael

United States6703 Posts

May 10 2008 05:39 GMT

I can take a look I guess, its been a while since I had to deal with Chinese mathmatical terms though, so don't expect too much.

kdog3683

United States916 Posts

May 10 2008 05:39 GMT

ib is international though so Kids in china + japan + india etc also take it. They probably ruin the grade curve for the rest of us though -_-;

titus - Whats "藏" supposed to be

tttt

United States386 Posts

May 10 2008 05:54 GMT

Well it's obvious that the Chinese are inherently better than the Caucasian masses who only continue their existence to denigrate the Olympics.

Ecael

United States6703 Posts

May 10 2008 05:56 GMT

Makes little sense, either a nickname or supposed to be talking about Tibet, 藏 that is. If you emailed it to me, wait a bit, our server has always been on the slow side.

alffla

Hong Kong20321 Posts

May 10 2008 06:00 GMT

lol i took IB MATHS SL LOLOLOL
and got a 4 cuz i totally didnt give a shit
good luck.

my chinese sucks balls too.

anch

United States5457 Posts

May 10 2008 06:00 GMT

#10

can you at least post what it look like??

"藏" is a character used in names
Japanese samurai uses it also. namely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi

Titusmaster6

United States5937 Posts

May 10 2008 06:00 GMT

#11

On May 10 2008 14:39 kdog3683 wrote:
ib is international though so Kids in china + japan + india etc also take it. They probably ruin the grade curve for the rest of us though -_-;

titus - Whats "藏" supposed to be

It's just phonetic (is that what you call it?) for Daezang. "Da-Zahn"

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

May 10 2008 06:12 GMT

#12

my friend lived in China for 15 years and he said that math is a lot different there.

he said that in the US, he was able to take much more difficult math than he would have been able to do in China (for example they don't have high level calc available for non university students in China, but here you can take it)... but he said that they go into exponentially more detail with basic stuff like geometry, algebra, etc .. so they know it like the back of their hand. I guess its their insanely strong foundation with math that makes them so much better when they come here and start taking more difficult math.

IMO a lot of things that trips people up with math is just the basic stuff, like algebra, which Chinese people apparently know very well.

alffla

Hong Kong20321 Posts

May 10 2008 06:36 GMT

#13

藏 zang

Ecael

United States6703 Posts

May 10 2008 06:39 GMT

#14

Let's not get into pinying here please, that stuff makes my brains turn to jelly

What Xeris said is pretty true though, also on a lower level Chinese (or in my case, Taiwanese) education covers stuff relatively faster early on, and with greater depth for HS. Haven't really heard of people really taking calculus in HS though, but they do drill the precalc principles down hard, which comes in handy with some of the higher level math...sort of.

Last Romantic

United States20667 Posts

May 10 2008 06:43 GMT

#15

my cousin took calculus junior year in a taiwanese high school.

The emphasis on basics is so insane ~~

It makes sense, though.

Ecael

United States6703 Posts

May 10 2008 06:46 GMT

#16

Go figure, my friend in 台大 didn't take calc till she got in, iirc. Which HS was it?

EDIT - Won't be able to translate all those tests lol, not with me having finals myself, but I can do a bit. Skimmed over a few, like I said, up to precalc. Heavy details into geometry and trig (makes sense) and proofs.

EDIT2 - Someone remember whether precalc covered optimization? Never took it

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

May 10 2008 06:50 GMT

#17

wat. i can translate mostly everything except medical and other specialties.

Last Romantic

United States20667 Posts

May 10 2008 06:53 GMT

#18

some private school; I don't remember the name. he's going to NTU next year :o

Ecael

United States6703 Posts

May 10 2008 06:56 GMT

#19

Private school eh, that's actually fairly rare if things are how I recall them. How did he get in NTU, testing in the old fashioned way?

Toss in some basic probability to what I said before. Also, should clarify, everything is below an introductionary course level for college, though fairly complex and in-depth questions.

Daveed

United States236 Posts

May 10 2008 07:33 GMT

#20

On May 10 2008 14:38 useLess wrote:
ya, i remember there was a picture comparison of math entrance exams for US and for China. US had some basic shit like finding the length given a right triangle, while China had something much more complex.

I saw that article, but the Chinese exam question was still trivial. It was just the figure that made it look intimidating (and, if I recall correctly, the absence of a translation for that).

Anyhow, math in China is pretty advanced, but you don't have to look all the way to China for nice math questions. There are plenty of math contests (in English) that have stuff posted online.

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