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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-13 08:53:57
March 09 2015 20:01 GMT
#1
Hi my TL friends,

It's me, Justine Chowder again!!!!! This time I'm trying to save SC2 and I have a great idea.

In my humble opinion the major flaw in SC2 is that it gets boring and bland and it's too slow and unexciting -- it's too predictable, just like chess

Who the hell watches chess?

We have to reference popular games like DotA/lol/hearthstone, which are all the rage these days.

My analysis of the fastest growing card game has shown that we can easily make it more interesting. I mean, surely there's a reason why it shoved MTG aside in record time and hence it should be our reference case. Obviously we can put minecraft aside because it is a different genre altogether.

Here are my proposed changes:


Terran
Stim has 5% chance of killing the marine but also a 20% chance to give it 30% extra attack speed and movement speed.

Yamato cannon has a 20% chance to split into 2 cannons, , which also have a 20% chance to split into 2 more cannons, targeting random enemies. They cost 10 more mana

Salvaging bunkers returns 70% - 100% of it's cost

Raven missiles have a 15% chance to dud or hit an ally unit but deals a larger area of splash damage

Mules last for 40-80 seconds

Nuke has a larger radiation AoE, up to 30 radius, that deals no damage but gives bio units within the range a 50% chance to have a random (positive or negative) buff.

Protoss
Warpgate warp in has 10% chance of killing the unit outright because of psionic interference - and a 10% chance to warp an additional random gateway unit of any tech.

Colossi have a 10% chance to get stuck between the cliffs*

Psi storm does 5-30 dps

Chrono boost costs 10 more mana but has a 5% chance to instantly complete the production of a building

The Cybernetics core has a new upgrade for Sentries, which when upgraded gives sentries a choice to cast a normal FF or a "Rocking FF" that cost 100 mana but gives it a 50% chance to spawn Rocking Destructible Rocks instead of forcefields.
These Rocking Destructible Rocks are share the same characteristics as normal destructible rocks and have the same effect when destroyed (as stated in "Misc" below), except that they are skinnable.
Players have to press the first hotkey for forcefield and the second hotkey to decide if it's a normal FF or the Rocking FF.**

After blink is researched, stalkers have a 30% chance to shoot an additional pair of laser beams when attacking, which will hit a random target nearby. When blinking they have a 10% chance to blink in the opposite direction.

*They are already imba so there's no need to balance that with a buff
**Has a 10% chance to spawn as Rocking Destructible Debris.


Zerg
Zergling cocoons have a 2% chance to spawn into an ultralisk but they cost 5 more minerals

Banelings have a 10% chance to detonate suddenly, damaging everything around it. It's movespeed is buffed by 20% in order to catch up with the speed buffed marines

Larva inject spawns 2-6 larvae

Cancelling a a morphing lurker/baneling/overseer/broodlord cocoon has a 16% chance to immediately turn into a Mutalisk The resources spent are returned, and the supply count will increase by 1. The Mutalisk will also gain certain upgrades that the unit had before being transformed. If it doesn't morph into a Mutalisk you will only get 75% of your resources back.

Misc
There definitely needs to be some collectible skins. You get skins by getting achievements or winning tournaments or reaching a certain rank and you can trade it or win skins from your opponent.

When destructible rocks are destroyed random sized fragments are randomly scattered within an area the size of a nuke. The rock fragments damage units that are within the area in relation to the size.


I haven't got into the balancing stages yet but these are a few ideas I have in mind.

Let us save SC2 together by bringing it up to date. Do you have more ideas? Discuss.

Best,

Justine Chowder

Changelog 1.04: added effect for stalker and nuke
Changelog 1.03: added upgrade for forcefield
Changelog 1.02: added destructible rock feature
Changelog 1.01: added muta lottery for zerg

Acknowledgements: Deathstar, OtherWorld. bisudagger, 29 fps, antisocialmunky, FFW_Rude, Big J



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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 09 2015 20:13 GMT
#2
5/5 great blog. You're lacking the fleeing zealot though, such a feature would make SC2's popularity go beyond anything imaginable.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 09 2015 20:52 GMT
#3
I think if you had terran receive a 40% damage bonus against protoss, toss gain 40% damage against zerg, and zerg against terran it would also bring SC2 more in line with other premium Blizzard ESPORTS titles.

I think "morph random unit" would be a cool use for larva too. Maybe make it cost 75 minerals and whatever pops out pops out. Planning out builds is way overrated when you could just get a broodlord off of RNG.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13973 Posts
March 09 2015 20:56 GMT
#4
well hearthstone is all RNG and is super popular so these ideas are genius, thanks Justine
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 09 2015 20:58 GMT
#5
No please.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
March 09 2015 21:16 GMT
#6
Sounds terrible pretty much lol
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
March 09 2015 21:18 GMT
#7
Saving SC2 by changing it so much is like killing it. I'll hate the game you want to create.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 09 2015 21:19 GMT
#8
how is it so hard for people to recognize satire?
especially when he literally calls himself "Justine Chowder", an obvious bad play on "Dustin Browder" rofl
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
March 09 2015 21:21 GMT
#9
On March 10 2015 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
how is it so hard for people to recognize satire?
especially when he literally calls himself "Justine Chowder", an obvious bad play on "Dustin Browder" rofl


What if it's not a bad play but an alias, huh ?
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
March 09 2015 21:21 GMT
#10
All the RNG elements just allow for worse players to beat better players. They already accomplished that with the changes from BW to SC2.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 09 2015 22:00 GMT
#11
On March 10 2015 06:21 DEN1ED wrote:
All the RNG elements just allow for worse players to beat better players. They already accomplished that with the changes from BW to SC2.

I too think that Blizzard should totally apologize for making a new game instead of remastering graphics.

You know what? I think brood war is not fun to play. Its graphics are rubbish and outdated, the clumsy unit movement is more a bug than a feature ("warcraft crew trying to create orcs in space accidentally creating a masterpiece") and it's totally not playable for casual users because you need ICCUP or similar for a solid user experience. Gosh.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 09 2015 22:26 GMT
#12
Time to put your money where your mouth is. Where is that custom map/mod?

Where you are at it, can you also make a map/mod where every second a unit spawns randomly for both players a you can just watch two AIs fight each other?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 09 2015 22:50 GMT
#13
0/5, no randomly appearing or exploding rocks were mentioned.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 23:24:18
March 09 2015 23:23 GMT
#14
Justine, I agree! SCII has gotten too stale and these changes are brilliant! Please keep them coming. We need more! Also, please add more rocks^ Rocks make everything better!

On March 10 2015 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
how is it so hard for people to recognize satire?
especially when he literally calls himself "Justine Chowder", an obvious bad play on "Dustin Browder" rofl

I chuckle every time I read Justine Chowder lol.

Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada760 Posts
March 09 2015 23:34 GMT
#15
in all honesty, i think your preposed changes would beat sc2 completely dead lol
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13973 Posts
March 09 2015 23:57 GMT
#16
I don't know why there aren't more rocks listed in these proposed changes, add rocks, those will help.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
March 10 2015 00:02 GMT
#17
On March 10 2015 07:00 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 06:21 DEN1ED wrote:
All the RNG elements just allow for worse players to beat better players. They already accomplished that with the changes from BW to SC2.

I too think that Blizzard should totally apologize for making a new game instead of remastering graphics.

You know what? I think brood war is not fun to play. Its graphics are rubbish and outdated, the clumsy unit movement is more a bug than a feature ("warcraft crew trying to create orcs in space accidentally creating a masterpiece") and it's totally not playable for casual users because you need ICCUP or similar for a solid user experience. Gosh.


in 2015, a random typical UMS game on korean fish server gets filled up faster than you can say "Brood war is ded"
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 10 2015 02:11 GMT
#18
I support all of these changes with all my heart and soul.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
March 10 2015 03:05 GMT
#19
i support these changes with all of my left pinkie toe
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
March 10 2015 03:22 GMT
#20
Gotta say I'm also upset about lack of Rocks.

Floating Rocks - floating rocks impeded the path fo air units and must be shot down. They then fall and become destructible ground rocks.
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