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On February 12 2015 02:27 Irrational_Animal wrote:
You really should start to take a look at English PhD-Programs in European Countries such as the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and so on. I don`t have a lot of insight about medieval philosophy but there are certainly programs that are better suited for your interests than e.g. Stanford (and the chances of getting in should also be higher). If everything fails try to bolster your cv with a publication, a teaching gig an so on...
Yeah that could be a plan B. I should look for universites that do not have a deadline for their Phds but where you can apply all year long: right now I only know one in Finland, where I did my Erasmus.
To all the readers, do you know other universities that offer this all year-round applying? If so, please inform me, thanks 
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http://t.co/pz5MsPe0RK just gonna leave this here.
Just about to enter the 2nd year of my PhD. Also in Philosophy. Reiterating what other people have said, you seem to have set yourself some high standards which is good but I wouldnt be surprised if you saw some rejections. I only applied for 3 places myself and got rejected from the place I really wantsd to go to. But if you have a love for what you do then you should make it work somehow
Good luck!
Not sure about year round but a lot of Universities in Australia offer mid year entry but you can only apply for scholarships once ler year at a certain time.
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On February 12 2015 03:37 bookwyrm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 20:54 SoSexy wrote:
And F*** off to the guy who suggested me gradcafe. I am literally F5ing it to death aaaaarrrrghhhh o.o hahaha GOT YA Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 17:54 LoneYoShi wrote:
I really hope I don't come across as a dick, my objective really isn't to be bashing you or anything, I'm sincerely curious. What's your career goal when applying for something like a philosophy PhD ? I mean except for teaching philosophy, or maybe writing, what are the other potential jobs you can apply to with a philosophy PhD ?
Who gives a fuck about JOBS when you can SATISFY YOUR CURIOSITY. jobs are for CHUMPS
Get a job where you can satisfy your curiosity. That's why I'm trying to get a PhD. I can satisfy my curiosity in school but I can't stay in school forever... unless they hire me
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On February 12 2015 06:39 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 03:37 bookwyrm wrote:On February 11 2015 20:54 SoSexy wrote:
And F*** off to the guy who suggested me gradcafe. I am literally F5ing it to death aaaaarrrrghhhh o.o hahaha GOT YA On February 11 2015 17:54 LoneYoShi wrote:
I really hope I don't come across as a dick, my objective really isn't to be bashing you or anything, I'm sincerely curious. What's your career goal when applying for something like a philosophy PhD ? I mean except for teaching philosophy, or maybe writing, what are the other potential jobs you can apply to with a philosophy PhD ?
Who gives a fuck about JOBS when you can SATISFY YOUR CURIOSITY. jobs are for CHUMPS Get a job where you can satisfy your curiosity. That's why I'm trying to get a PhD. I can satisfy my curiosity in school but I can't stay in school forever... unless they hire me
I'm so fucking sick of this question, no offense lol. The reason I'm getting a PhD is exactly that I wasn't able to find employment, so I decided to study more. Hopefully I'll be able to get a academic position (but that is kind unrealistic). However its also a freaking PhD, a chance to impart some little piece of knowledge (that no one will ever read) to the future of society; I mean despite the fact that very little people will read my PhD, that is still a pretty awesome notion.
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On February 12 2015 07:20 Phil0s0pher wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 06:39 Djzapz wrote:On February 12 2015 03:37 bookwyrm wrote:On February 11 2015 20:54 SoSexy wrote:
And F*** off to the guy who suggested me gradcafe. I am literally F5ing it to death aaaaarrrrghhhh o.o hahaha GOT YA On February 11 2015 17:54 LoneYoShi wrote:
I really hope I don't come across as a dick, my objective really isn't to be bashing you or anything, I'm sincerely curious. What's your career goal when applying for something like a philosophy PhD ? I mean except for teaching philosophy, or maybe writing, what are the other potential jobs you can apply to with a philosophy PhD ?
Who gives a fuck about JOBS when you can SATISFY YOUR CURIOSITY. jobs are for CHUMPS Get a job where you can satisfy your curiosity. That's why I'm trying to get a PhD. I can satisfy my curiosity in school but I can't stay in school forever... unless they hire me I'm so fucking sick of this question, no offense lol. The reason I'm getting a PhD is exactly that I wasn't able to find employment, so I decided to study more. Hopefully I'll be able to get a academic position (but that is kind unrealistic). However its also a freaking PhD, a chance to impart some little piece of knowledge (that no one will ever read) to the future of society; I mean despite the fact that very little people will read my PhD, that is still a pretty awesome notion.
lol why am I suddenly responsible for the topic that was brought up by someone else!? You have your reasons and that's fine, I'm not judging. I was talking about mine.
And I agree that it's an annoying question, I've heard it countless times myself. Some go to school for knowledge, others go for work. I go for life (knowledge, and inevitably, work). But all reasons are fine by me.
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On February 12 2015 07:28 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2015 07:20 Phil0s0pher wrote:On February 12 2015 06:39 Djzapz wrote:On February 12 2015 03:37 bookwyrm wrote:On February 11 2015 20:54 SoSexy wrote:
And F*** off to the guy who suggested me gradcafe. I am literally F5ing it to death aaaaarrrrghhhh o.o hahaha GOT YA On February 11 2015 17:54 LoneYoShi wrote:
I really hope I don't come across as a dick, my objective really isn't to be bashing you or anything, I'm sincerely curious. What's your career goal when applying for something like a philosophy PhD ? I mean except for teaching philosophy, or maybe writing, what are the other potential jobs you can apply to with a philosophy PhD ?
Who gives a fuck about JOBS when you can SATISFY YOUR CURIOSITY. jobs are for CHUMPS Get a job where you can satisfy your curiosity. That's why I'm trying to get a PhD. I can satisfy my curiosity in school but I can't stay in school forever... unless they hire me I'm so fucking sick of this question, no offense lol. The reason I'm getting a PhD is exactly that I wasn't able to find employment, so I decided to study more. Hopefully I'll be able to get a academic position (but that is kind unrealistic). However its also a freaking PhD, a chance to impart some little piece of knowledge (that no one will ever read) to the future of society; I mean despite the fact that very little people will read my PhD, that is still a pretty awesome notion. lol why am I suddenly responsible for the topic that was brought up by someone else!? You have your reasons and that's fine, I'm not judging. I was talking about mine. And I agree that it's an annoying question, I've heard it countless times myself. Some go to school for knowledge, others go for work. I go for life (knowledge, and inevitably, work). But all reasons are fine by me.
Quoting you to quote the whole conversation, that is all. no hate.
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On February 10 2015 09:07 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 08:34 TheEmulator wrote:
Well those are some pretty good schools, I wouldn't be too depressed if you don't get in. There are many more schools out there. Yeah, but deadlines already expired. I applied to 8 because I thought it was a fair number (I spent around 400 $ in applications fee, more than that I could not afford). So I need to get in because I cannot waste another year :S Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 09:04 Djzapz wrote:As a political science PhD candidate who's getting his ass kicked... May God have mercy on your soul. Still managing to fool these clowns into thinking I'm smart enough to be dicking around people who are actually smart at a prestigious university, but at this level it seems like they're going to find out  Good luck buddy!
The "can't waste another year" mentality is usually pretty misplaced.
I initially came out of college and had a plan. Go straight into the Navy after the summer, serve 4 years, straight into grad school, etc.
Turns out I had to wait Eleven months after I graduated to get into U.S. Navy OCS. Then, I got extremely sick and ended up coming home. Took a class + re-upped my EMT certification, with the plan of immediately starting to work and working my way into a Masters in Nursing program. Turns out it's really fucking hard to get a job as an EMT-B, so I still haven't gotten a job. Bummed around for almost half a year, then finally started classes again at the nearby university in preparation for the program, which I won't start until a year and a half after I finish the prerequisite classes. Then I plan to go back to the Navy as a nurse, serve my 3-however many years I need if they pay back some debt, and then go to medical school.
Shit NEVER works out how you want it to. You'll never get stuff started right when you want to. Your long term financial plans will never work out quite like you planned them. You just have to be OK with this because a LOT of things can happen that will screw up plans. If you don't get in to any of these programs, use the time to volunteer, to work some random job, to get additional experience, like teaching or working with former professors on an academic project, or maybe getting a paper published (looks pretty good if you can get a philosophy paper published without a graduate degree), or maybe traveling, or anything.
Life is really, really, really fucking long. You have plenty of time to get a PhD and become a philosophy professor. When I was getting my undergraduate degree in philosophy, we had professors in their late 70's still kickin' it.
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Being in a hurry usually just results in shallow academic hackwork also. You should be spending all your freetime reading books, though, if youre serious about scholarship
I spent two years between school doing a whole lot of nothing but a lot of reading and thinking. Now im finishing a masters at 26 but im switching fields so still have 6 years of grad school left. Thats just the pace of intellectual life
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Of course it's almost impossible to get a "job" with a PhD in philosophy. Same goes for PhDs in history, arts, literary science, ancient languages etc. Here in Germany it's almost pointless to get a PhD in those areas, unless you're really dedicated and somewhat lucky. Money is spare when it comes to jobs at colleges for people with degrees / PhDs in "useless" sciences. And outside of the university system, there's basically nothing. I know lots of people with PhDs who ended up working in completely different sectors. But that's not what it's about, anyway. Anybody who has experienced the pure enjoyment of thinking knows what I'm talking about.
I've been thinking about applying for a PhD in history and I've decided against it. I don't give a shit about my so-called career, but I also don't want to end up stuck between bureaucracy and low-paid bullshit jobs. But I'm also a person whose goal in life is to float through life. I want to experience as many different things as possible. (next step: becoming a teacher for some years) Money doesn't interest me, as long as I have a place to sleep and enough money for food, clothing and books, I'm happy.
Out of curiosity: SoSexy, what's your field of research? Good luck to you, Sir!
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Theres a pretty sweet book from china called 'six records of a floating life,' you make me think of it.
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On February 13 2015 01:12 virpi wrote:
Of course it's almost impossible to get a "job" with a PhD in philosophy. Same goes for PhDs in history, arts, literary science, ancient languages etc. Here in Germany it's almost pointless to get a PhD in those areas, unless you're really dedicated and somewhat lucky. Money is spare when it comes to jobs at colleges for people with degrees / PhDs in "useless" sciences. And outside of the university system, there's basically nothing. I know lots of people with PhDs who ended up working in completely different sectors. But that's not what it's about, anyway. Anybody who has experienced the pure enjoyment of thinking knows what I'm talking about.
I've been thinking about applying for a PhD in history and I've decided against it. I don't give a shit about my so-called career, but I also don't want to end up stuck between bureaucracy and low-paid bullshit jobs. But I'm also a person whose goal in life is to float through life. I want to experience as many different things as possible. (next step: becoming a teacher for some years) Money doesn't interest me, as long as I have a place to sleep and enough money for food, clothing and books, I'm happy.
Out of curiosity: SoSexy, what's your field of research? Good luck to you, Sir!
Unless your PhD is in a natural science, the only place for you in terms of a job is going to be at a university/college of some kind, and I think that anyone aspiring to a PhD needs to understand that.
The other big rule of a PhD, which was taught to me by my adviser, is, "You don't get a PhD because you really want one. If you try that, you will fail. You get a PhD because you absolutely cannot do anything else".
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On February 13 2015 12:00 Stratos_speAr wrote:
You get a PhD because you absolutely cannot do anything else".
that's about the size of it i'm afraid
for one reason or another
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You get a PhD because you absolutely cannot do anything else.
Spot on, Sir. I'm a very dedicated and challenge-seeking person, but I can't imagine myself working in one particular area for my whole life. Besides, I'm also interested in way too many things. Surely I won't be absolutely excellent in any of those interests, but that doesn't matter. I love science, especially philosophy (got a minor degree there) and history (my major), but committing to it full-time doesn't go along well with my whole personality. I seek happiness in diversity.
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On February 13 2015 12:00 Stratos_speAr wrote:
"You don't get a PhD because you really want one. If you try that, you will fail. You get a PhD because you absolutely cannot do anything else".
I'm getting a PhD because I kinda want one, and I could go work now with my M.A... am I fucked?
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Me and Virpi really think alike but I would actually have no problem in doing Philosophy all my life in a department: I worked a bit in a bank and I wanted to kill myself (figurately). I am doing a PhD because I want to become a professor/stay in academic field.
My area of research is more or less aroung these topics: medieval philosophy, freewill and foreknowledge, compatibilism, fatalism, systematic theology.
As for the applications, no updates. I'm amazed at the lack of communication between British institutions: When you apply for funding at King's, you have to do so via the Prism portal for AHRC funding. Here's the odd thing: my funding application is still going forward - after the refusal from King's they are 'assigning reviewers to it'. What's the sense of this? Why should they lose time reading a funding application for a program that has been closed to me?
I suppose it is simply a burocracy thing but meh.
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The thing with AHRC funding is that the institution has to forward you before the real ahrc application process starts. This AHRC application once forwarded by the institution is not reviewed by the university anymore, but instead by the AHRC itself. It's a strange two stage process with lots of unneeded bureaucracy.
In general job perspectives with PhD in philosophy are actually pretty good. Mostly not in the field of philosophy though. The good universities try to prepare you for the time after your phd well, as far as I can tell. Moreover, just studying at a place with incredibly intelligent and passionated people in your field of interest is very enjoyable. Hope you'll get an acceptance soon!
Edit: I think most uk universities have no real deadline for applications, so they accept people all year long. However, the funding has a deadline (as you already know), so depending on whether you consider going self-funded you can always add more uk uni applications. I also got a rejection first before getting offers, so do not worry too much for now.
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Second rejection boys, this time from the US. Six to go.
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Do PhD Candidates in Philosophy normally get a stipend? My instinct is no, but I really have no idea.
Was it Stanford? Best of luck, still 6 bullets in the chamber.
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On February 22 2015 04:16 slyboogie wrote:
Do PhD Candidates in Philosophy normally get a stipend? My instinct is no, but I really have no idea.
Was it Stanford? Best of luck, still 6 bullets in the chamber.
Yes, they do. Otherwise I would not be able to go!
No, Notre-Dame. Yeah, still hoping on the other six :/
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