EPTReally hard to make new content as well, most ppl want it from youtube but my comp is too shit for that. Don't know what I can do tbh sorry
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Rocket-Bear
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Really hard to make new content as well, most ppl want it from youtube but my comp is too shit for that. Don't know what I can do tbh sorry | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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harodihg
Japan1344 Posts
LD has like no community without a good shitpost thread - without it you're doomed to read the same shit over and over cuz DotA isn't like SC2 and can't just be typed about | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
I know it's not entirely fair for me to compare this site with TL.net but just look at how that site is being run in comparison to LiquidDota. Do you think it would be acceptable for TL.net to be at the same level of incompetence that Liquid Dota currently is? I've always held respect for TL.net not only for the community that came from it but also for staff that ran the site. Please, if LD isn't going to merge with TL.net again than at the very least turn this site into something better than this shit. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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govie
9334 Posts
For comparison, sc2 doesnt have busy individual unit topics, but strategytopics are highly valued (buildorders, timings & unitcontrol). Maybe the strategy section of liquiddota and all of its members should focus more on drafts, combo's and execution. Maybe the staff could try to incentisive (i cant find the spelling, hope u guys understand what i mean) user generated content about drafts in the strategy section or even on liquipedia (as a draft/strategyhub from which we can cherrypick drafts). It is a bit wierd we talk alot about individual heros in topics but never a draft, execution of combo;s etcetc, the game is alot more dynamic then what we mostly debate about. I.e. The doctors without borders strategy or Lers supportguide which has alot of draftingtechnicalities init aswell, are really good examples of user generated content most of us value highly. Doctor without borders strategy also shows that highly valued content doesnt have to be written by or for a hightier player and gets alot more interesting when the game is viewed as a whole and not a single hero. | ||
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govie
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
Also I think there are roughly 3 people that are qualified enough to talk about strategy as its related to dota 2 in these forums, and I'm probably not one of them. | ||
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rudimentalfeelthelov
Finland268 Posts
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Jutranjo
Slovenia140 Posts
On November 23 2014 04:21 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote: I've had about 6-8 meta related questions that I wanted to discuss but I cannot since GD thread was closed, bring it back, it was mostly chitchat, but it was still a great place to discuss dota related stuff which now you cannot. Why not just post it? | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Nixer
2774 Posts
On November 22 2014 18:53 Kuroeeah wrote: Emu you're still the only staff member (non active to make matters worse) that bothered responding. All I'm left with from this thread is that the people that's actually leading the site actually don't give a shit about it otherwise an effort would have been made to let us know something is being done about it. It's really fucking sad that what we have now is the result of "Liquid Dota" being it's own thing and now I know why i'm pissed about having it segregated from TL.net. I know it's not entirely fair for me to compare this site with TL.net but just look at how that site is being run in comparison to LiquidDota. Do you think it would be acceptable for TL.net to be at the same level of incompetence that Liquid Dota currently is? I've always held respect for TL.net not only for the community that came from it but also for staff that ran the site. Please, if LD isn't going to merge with TL.net again than at the very least turn this site into something better than this shit. On November 22 2014 18:55 Jaaaaasper wrote: Yeah staff besides from Emu don't give a fuck. People do, it is being discussed and has been to a certain extent before. | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On November 22 2014 18:53 Kuroeeah wrote: Emu you're still the only staff member (non active to make matters worse) that bothered responding. All I'm left with from this thread is that the people that's actually leading the site actually don't give a shit about it otherwise an effort would have been made to let us know something is being done about it. It's really fucking sad that what we have now is the result of "Liquid Dota" being it's own thing and now I know why i'm pissed about having it segregated from TL.net. I know it's not entirely fair for me to compare this site with TL.net but just look at how that site is being run in comparison to LiquidDota. Do you think it would be acceptable for TL.net to be at the same level of incompetence that Liquid Dota currently is? I've always held respect for TL.net not only for the community that came from it but also for staff that ran the site. Please, if LD isn't going to merge with TL.net again than at the very least turn this site into something better than this shit. Not that I don't agree with your main point, but Julmust is staff as well. | ||
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Kirsed
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TheEmulator
28088 Posts
On November 23 2014 07:04 Elyvilon wrote: Not that I don't agree with your main point, but Julmust is staff as well. To clarify, and this is something I think I said on the first or second page, but a lot of our staff do care a lot. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
I.e. Create three pocketstrategy examplethreads based on a template which can be short if the original poster wants too and has a nice look and feel too it. After those three threads sunk in do a mini-draftthread-tournament were the contentcreators of the most highly valued draftthreads win a custom hero for their portret (brain of pinky&the brain etc). If it would take off members would maybe start too enjoy creating content for LD more and the ld content could snowball a little. And portrets are a bit similar to collectables, so maybe if someone creates alot of contentvalue for LD as a member, you get a bonuspotret to choose from or another kind of incentive just like on TL. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
GD isn't coming back. Kirsed quite rightly pointed out the tavern is meant to serve the same purpose as GD, minus the one massive thread. People should not be afraid to create new threads in there as the standard for 'what is thread worthy' is lower than what people probably assume. LD staffwise is a lot closer to TL during BW than when SC2 came around. With that said, the team is ambitious and aims to have coverage on par with any of our other sites. This means that when a few key people are no longer around we really feel the bind and things suffer as a result. Should we have put out a hiring post for this? I guess we could have, but as others have said what this site needs most right now is leadership, and that's something we can't really hire for. Of course these aren't excuses for the lack of coverage or the lack of love strategy has, merely insight into what's going on internally. I guess the comparison to BW era TL isn't far off actually, at that point in time we were heavily dependent on the community doing cool things. From people like MyDigitalToss posting random images from Korea, Grandinquisitor and Jkilla doing a ton of R&S threads to pretty much every staff member who found themselves in that position through their contributions to the site in some way. People don't create a thread like this one if they didn't care about the site -- why waste time/effort making this thread when you can just pass on and forget about the site. We're a site which will happily support our community when they want to do cool things on the site; want to organise a second hero challenge? just make a thread (or better still, let us know so we can give you all the support you need for it). Have a cool strategy guide for a hero that you think could be taken to the next level? Get in contact, we might be able to get some designs going for that (and might just be the start of strategy templates... #thedream). It can even be as simple as seeing something interesting from a Chinese site (even something as insignificant as some silly photoshops) and cross posting it to LD, it'd really make the place a lot better. Of course, anyone who does contribute over some time we'd be interested in staffing (and promote pretty rapidly!) So yeah, I don't have much else to add. Please keep the feedback coming though, even if a lot of these issues are known to us it helps us work out our priorities. And don't worry, no one is going to get banned for saying this site is shit (as long as you explain why of course!) | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On November 22 2014 09:02 Rocket-Bear wrote: The thing I miss about the GD thread is that I could go there and get random ppl for shitty nonranked CD games. Now I don't really have a good place to go recruit an amazing army of talented players anymore because I don't think starting a new thread is worth it. TT Really hard to make new content as well, most ppl want it from youtube but my comp is too shit for that. Don't know what I can do tbh sorry This is actually something we can fix ourselves though. A steam group for finding people to pub with is extremely feasible as there is one already, just need to get the word out to be active in it. Another option is to get more people on IRC and organize pubs through there. I suppose we could ask LD staff to setup something on the site for it, but I feel more reasonable using a steam group or irc. | ||
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TheEmulator
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Qbek
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