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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28088 Posts
November 21 2014 22:15 GMT
#181
I don't think anyone blamed the community at all? The staff is taking full responsibility for anything that has sucked. My only point is that if people want things to be better then you can try to do so. Nothing more was said (unless I worded soemthing wrong or someone else said it?).
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 22:19:05
November 21 2014 22:18 GMT
#182
Nah, Emu, this wasn't a response to you. I appreciated your responses to my inquires earlier in the thread. I was more responding to users blaming users, or thinking the only issue with LD is users aren't creating enough content.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28088 Posts
November 21 2014 22:21 GMT
#183
oh, sorry. I thought that post was in reference to the staff.
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 21 2014 22:22 GMT
#184
On November 22 2014 07:10 crms wrote:
While user content is great, and a boon to the site. I can't blame the users for not offering up quality content when they're not seeing any from those that actually manage the site. I think it's quite surprising that the main critique being discussed is the 'users' aren't making enough content for the site to be successful. I mean, that's some crazy backward thinking.

The ones whose responsibility to grow the community and build the site should be creating an experience that the users are excited to be more involved in and add to the greatness, not create the greatness. You can't offer little to nothing and then blame the community for not making your site great.


Not going to respond to Targe's post, but look, we're still getting a fair number of new users. (go to a news thread or tournament thread and look at join dates and post counts for the users). I think it's a stretch to say the site entirely "sucks", but it does have problems.

We still have the best strategy forum and liquidpedia is so good people like bts use it.
LD is still moderated fairly well and you don't see much shitposting.
Yes there's a lot less "community" oriented threads like the old TL had (like mafia or kpop etc.) but that's outside the realm of Dota2.
Yes, I wish guys like phantasmal, sunfish (i enjoyed that drow/visage article a lot), and riptide (All-Pick!) wrote more, but I understand that they're doing this not for profit but from their own personal interest/enjoyment.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 21 2014 22:22 GMT
#185
Meanwhile in IRC

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 22:24:30
November 21 2014 22:23 GMT
#186
I am not blaming the community in any way. I am just pointing out that vague claims of "the site could be better" that are not in any way specific. If people want stuff to be better, show up and get involved. I would love to do more stuff with Inhouse games, but I am always busy on Saturday.

Edit: Confirmed that IRC is not the place to hang out.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 22:25:47
November 21 2014 22:25 GMT
#187
we're getting turnt up in here

link to the playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPDRgnNnn22M2clxezgCmBXcWUxr14O5f
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28088 Posts
November 21 2014 22:27 GMT
#188
Can the two of you stop posting unless it's contributing to the discussion (referring to the two obvious shit posts on this page). We're trying not to moderate this thread too much since we want honest discussion. But come on...
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 21 2014 22:28 GMT
#189
ok emu
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 21 2014 22:30 GMT
#190
And people wonder why GD was shut down.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 21 2014 22:30 GMT
#191
actually in the few weeks up to gd getting shut all of irc was petitioning for it to get shut down
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 21 2014 22:35 GMT
#192
On November 22 2014 07:27 TheEmulator wrote:
Can the two of you stop posting unless it's contributing to the discussion (referring to the two obvious shit posts on this page). We're trying not to moderate this thread too much since we want honest discussion. But come on...

I dunno man, there isn't really anything being discussed here. I read every post and am no wiser when it comes what the fuck this shit is about. It seems people are content with how LR and strategy is on this site and the things other people miss is some sort of community activity. But since this site shares the community section with TL, why would we limit ourselves to just LD O.o So in reality, it's a classic internet argument where one side disagrees with another on a purely subjective matter and all argumentation is moot.

Nobody can do write ups for dota tournaments these days, it's impossible to watch them all and have a life(even for a single region)
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 21 2014 22:40 GMT
#193
On November 22 2014 07:35 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 07:27 TheEmulator wrote:
Can the two of you stop posting unless it's contributing to the discussion (referring to the two obvious shit posts on this page). We're trying not to moderate this thread too much since we want honest discussion. But come on...

I dunno man, there isn't really anything being discussed here. I read every post and am no wiser when it comes what the fuck this shit is about. It seems people are content with how LR and strategy is on this site and the things other people miss is some sort of community activity. But since this site shares the community section with TL, why would we limit ourselves to just LD O.o So in reality, it's a classic internet argument where one side disagrees with another on a purely subjective matter and all argumentation is moot.

Nobody can do write ups for dota tournaments these days, it's impossible to watch them all and have a life(even for a single region)


that was a very well put together summary lol
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 21 2014 22:42 GMT
#194
Dunno, it's not hard to do a summary of sizeable lans which LD has/had been doing but they aren't that interesting.
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
November 21 2014 23:40 GMT
#195
On November 22 2014 07:35 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 07:27 TheEmulator wrote:
Can the two of you stop posting unless it's contributing to the discussion (referring to the two obvious shit posts on this page). We're trying not to moderate this thread too much since we want honest discussion. But come on...

I dunno man, there isn't really anything being discussed here. I read every post and am no wiser when it comes what the fuck this shit is about. It seems people are content with how LR and strategy is on this site and the things other people miss is some sort of community activity. But since this site shares the community section with TL, why would we limit ourselves to just LD O.o So in reality, it's a classic internet argument where one side disagrees with another on a purely subjective matter and all argumentation is moot.

Nobody can do write ups for dota tournaments these days, it's impossible to watch them all and have a life(even for a single region)


Agreed with what was written above, good summary. but this is great feedback to work with (and we're hoping for more). now if the thread is dead to you then let it be. there is absolutely no need for you to try to turn what, so far, has been a thread with quality feedback into something else with a shitpost like "Currently on IRC *screenshot* lulz we're so random!!!111".

The lack of community activity is something that, too me, needs to be LD specific. We do share the general forums, but we have the tavern and general discussion and those are good places to organize such things. To build a LD community feeling.

Anyone with any feedback, please continue posting. I know all staff is following this thread and changed will be made because of it. It doesn't matter if you're upset and want to rant. Post it! (but please give us some advice)
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 21 2014 23:42 GMT
#196
the meanwhile in irc post was a reference to previous posts in the thread where people discussed the quality of irc discussion
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 21 2014 23:48 GMT
#197
On November 22 2014 07:30 Targe wrote:
actually in the few weeks up to gd getting shut all of irc was petitioning for it to get shut down

and then irc ppl made it get shut down :s
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 21 2014 23:52 GMT
#198
On November 22 2014 08:48 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 07:30 Targe wrote:
actually in the few weeks up to gd getting shut all of irc was petitioning for it to get shut down

and then irc ppl made it get shut down :s

ye that was kind of the idea behind the last 2 pages of posting, the thread closing had been talked about for ages, we just pushed the date forwards i assume
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 21 2014 23:54 GMT
#199
On November 22 2014 08:48 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 07:30 Targe wrote:
actually in the few weeks up to gd getting shut all of irc was petitioning for it to get shut down

and then irc ppl made it get shut down :s

IRC people are the Illuminati m8, get your tinfoil hats before they get ya .

I've no interest in prodota anymore but I'd like to stay with this community. What I want is some way of connecting with the liquiddota community that doesn't involve too much dota >.> How does one achieve that?
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 21 2014 23:56 GMT
#200
GD

User was warned for this post
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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