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On November 21 2014 07:37 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 04:44 Talin wrote:I don't post much any more. I don't play the game, and barely watch it, and let's be honest I didn't have a lot to say even while I did both of those things actively. My only recent, eh, contribution was engaging in pointless speculation in TL Team Discussion thread.  But I do like the feel of this place. It has a bit of a chill vibe to it the way old TL.net or later the BW section of TL did. It sporadically produces great content (Art of Support, the TI team articles, and so on). It's not crowded and I can recognize most people's usernames. Yes, there's a lack of famous players / personalities posting, but when someone does like Aui recently, he's reasonably accessible and you're not just one of the thousands of people asking questions as you would be over Twitter or Reddit. Bulba used to post quite often, but it seems he stopped after he left the team. To be honest I really never cared for preview/recap articles in any of the games TL covers, I see it as mostly filler content made just so that there's something going on in the news feed. Obviously with the exception of some really extraordinary ones, such as SKT vs KT SPL finals preview and recap - look at that shit, just LOOK at it. Honestly, I don't think SC2 coverage and articles are a lot better, there's just more of it. What really makes the difference is that there's a passion in writing that exudes from the articles like the ones I linked above, but that has long since been substituted by dry esports journalism. Whether we get one such article a week or a dozen doesn't really make too much of a difference to me. I still find tournament discussion on LD better than any english site in the world. (occasionally we get people like Mensol lol) JD/reddit/gosugamers/nadota all lack the intelligence of the TL/LD community. The old GD/merged site led a lot of the SC2 crowd into Dota2, but I don't think there's a silver bullet to reinvigorating this website.
If we're being honest, the site overall is better than most other communities. We have the best strategy forum of anywhere, the LR threads are certainly better for following/reacting to tournaments than reddit, and the Tavern is pretty nice to chill and talk about the random stuff.
The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO. Activity on the forum isn't an issue, but it doesn't feel like a dota 2 website so much as a place where a lot of people just talk about Dota 2.
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On November 21 2014 09:08 LeLoup wrote:
The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO.
No shit, I can't even tell who's a god damned admin in this place.
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if you cant report them then they're admin
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Science proven and tested. I am never able to report Firebolt or Emu, but I keep checking.
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irc is pretty nice
i dont see any racism or anything
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On November 21 2014 11:51 Yergidy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 09:08 LeLoup wrote:
The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO. No shit, I can't even tell who's a god damned admin in this place.
this is a decent point. on TL you could really see the involvement from the staff in blogs, strategy ect. on LD I don't think I know a single new mod after the sites split and I have this site open every day. I think this does affect how people interact and how involved they get with the community here.
Personally I just enjoyed seeing all the different icons the mods used on TL
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On November 21 2014 16:40 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 11:51 Yergidy wrote:On November 21 2014 09:08 LeLoup wrote:
The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO. No shit, I can't even tell who's a god damned admin in this place. this is a decent point. on TL you could really see the involvement from the staff in blogs, strategy ect. on LD I don't think I know a single new mod after the sites split and I have this site open every day. I think this does affect how people interact and how involved they get with the community here. Personally I just enjoyed seeing all the different icons the mods used on TL
Wasn't Firebolt a new mod? I can't remember
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On November 21 2014 09:08 LeLoup wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 07:37 bagels21 wrote:On November 21 2014 04:44 Talin wrote:I don't post much any more. I don't play the game, and barely watch it, and let's be honest I didn't have a lot to say even while I did both of those things actively. My only recent, eh, contribution was engaging in pointless speculation in TL Team Discussion thread. But I do like the feel of this place. It has a bit of a chill vibe to it the way old TL.net or later the BW section of TL did. It sporadically produces great content (Art of Support, the TI team articles, and so on). It's not crowded and I can recognize most people's usernames. Yes, there's a lack of famous players / personalities posting, but when someone does like Aui recently, he's reasonably accessible and you're not just one of the thousands of people asking questions as you would be over Twitter or Reddit. Bulba used to post quite often, but it seems he stopped after he left the team. To be honest I really never cared for preview/recap articles in any of the games TL covers, I see it as mostly filler content made just so that there's something going on in the news feed. Obviously with the exception of some really extraordinary ones, such as SKT vs KT SPL finals preview and recap - look at that shit, just LOOK at it. Honestly, I don't think SC2 coverage and articles are a lot better, there's just more of it. What really makes the difference is that there's a passion in writing that exudes from the articles like the ones I linked above, but that has long since been substituted by dry esports journalism. Whether we get one such article a week or a dozen doesn't really make too much of a difference to me. I still find tournament discussion on LD better than any english site in the world. (occasionally we get people like Mensol lol) JD/reddit/gosugamers/nadota all lack the intelligence of the TL/LD community. The old GD/merged site led a lot of the SC2 crowd into Dota2, but I don't think there's a silver bullet to reinvigorating this website. If we're being honest, the site overall is better than most other communities. We have the best strategy forum of anywhere, the LR threads are certainly better for following/reacting to tournaments than reddit, and the Tavern is pretty nice to chill and talk about the random stuff. The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO. Activity on the forum isn't an issue, but it doesn't feel like a dota 2 website so much as a place where a lot of people just talk about Dota 2.
Yeah, I felt like the peak level of production from Liquid Dota/TLDota2 was probably TI3. Oh well, I still enjoy this site the most (sometimes I read r/dota2 for lolz purposes/hate - case in point, ad rant right now that's 1500+ comments strong)
"but it doesn't feel like a dota 2 website so much as a place where a lot of people just talk about Dota 2" too true
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- I think heartstone and sc2 liquid communities are bigger, because its more openminded and both are mostly a 1v1 games. Even a bronze league player can post new topics backed by data, in those topics master players still thank the bronzenoobs for their contribution, analysis and effort (even if the quality of the content is debatable, but thats besides the point).
- On liquiddota, members in some cases focus more on winning an argument ("only 1 answer possible" kind off attitude) or downvoting someones argument instead of just trying to answer the question based on their own experiences. Even open minded people in normal life tend to fight off an aggressive reaction to a post they just made, maybe liquiddota community is in puberty and it will eventually blow over and grow after .
E: im not jesus, i sometimes argue too.
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On November 21 2014 14:45 Erasme wrote:
irc is pretty nice
i dont see any racism or anything
Don't mind Erasme, he is a known blind person
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Yeah Mod's definitely need something more distinctive. I have no idea who is staff or a mod on this site unless they say they are
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On November 21 2014 23:56 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Yeah Mod's definitely need something more distinctive. I have no idea who is staff or a mod on this site unless they say they are
Uruk Hai logo's instead of doto ones;)
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Seeing the same article on the front page for 20 days straight doesn't help no
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On November 22 2014 00:48 spacer wrote:
Seeing the same article on the front page for 20 days straight doesn't help no
Write a new one. Seriously. That shit doesn't write itself and the people doing it don't get paid.
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this lack of response from the admins is worrying though
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On November 22 2014 00:55 ahswtini wrote:
this lack of response from the admins is worrying though
Emu's made literlaly 16 posts in this thread
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On November 22 2014 00:58 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 00:55 ahswtini wrote:
this lack of response from the admins is worrying though Emu's made literlaly 16 posts in this thread
MATH HARD! Remember Emu is an admin, also hard, even though I said it earlier on the page.
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He also said he isn't involved due to being in his final year of uni. Math might be hard, but reading seems to be even harder
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On November 22 2014 01:11 Qbek wrote:
He also said he isn't involved due to being in his final year of uni. Math might be hard, but reading seems to be even harder
no he said he isn't generating content. He's still an admin, still participates in decision making etc.
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On November 22 2014 01:19 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 01:11 Qbek wrote:
He also said he isn't involved due to being in his final year of uni. Math might be hard, but reading seems to be even harder no he said he isn't generating content. He's still an admin, still participates in decision making etc.
Like this thread, for instance. Banning fools doesn't take nearly as much time as writing stuff.
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