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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
November 21 2014 00:08 GMT
#141
On November 21 2014 07:37 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 04:44 Talin wrote:
I don't post much any more. I don't play the game, and barely watch it, and let's be honest I didn't have a lot to say even while I did both of those things actively. My only recent, eh, contribution was engaging in pointless speculation in TL Team Discussion thread.

But I do like the feel of this place. It has a bit of a chill vibe to it the way old TL.net or later the BW section of TL did. It sporadically produces great content (Art of Support, the TI team articles, and so on). It's not crowded and I can recognize most people's usernames. Yes, there's a lack of famous players / personalities posting, but when someone does like Aui recently, he's reasonably accessible and you're not just one of the thousands of people asking questions as you would be over Twitter or Reddit. Bulba used to post quite often, but it seems he stopped after he left the team.

To be honest I really never cared for preview/recap articles in any of the games TL covers, I see it as mostly filler content made just so that there's something going on in the news feed. Obviously with the exception of some really extraordinary ones, such as SKT vs KT SPL finals preview and recap - look at that shit, just LOOK at it.

Honestly, I don't think SC2 coverage and articles are a lot better, there's just more of it. What really makes the difference is that there's a passion in writing that exudes from the articles like the ones I linked above, but that has long since been substituted by dry esports journalism. Whether we get one such article a week or a dozen doesn't really make too much of a difference to me.


I still find tournament discussion on LD better than any english site in the world. (occasionally we get people like Mensol lol) JD/reddit/gosugamers/nadota all lack the intelligence of the TL/LD community. The old GD/merged site led a lot of the SC2 crowd into Dota2, but I don't think there's a silver bullet to reinvigorating this website.

If we're being honest, the site overall is better than most other communities. We have the best strategy forum of anywhere, the LR threads are certainly better for following/reacting to tournaments than reddit, and the Tavern is pretty nice to chill and talk about the random stuff.

The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO. Activity on the forum isn't an issue, but it doesn't feel like a dota 2 website so much as a place where a lot of people just talk about Dota 2.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 02:52:14
November 21 2014 02:51 GMT
#142
On November 21 2014 09:08 LeLoup wrote:
The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO.


No shit, I can't even tell who's a god damned admin in this place.
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 21 2014 02:53 GMT
#143
if you cant report them then they're admin
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 21 2014 04:22 GMT
#144
Science proven and tested. I am never able to report Firebolt or Emu, but I keep checking.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 21 2014 05:45 GMT
#145
irc is pretty nice
i dont see any racism or anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
November 21 2014 07:40 GMT
#146
On November 21 2014 11:51 Yergidy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 09:08 LeLoup wrote:
The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO.


No shit, I can't even tell who's a god damned admin in this place.


this is a decent point. on TL you could really see the involvement from the staff in blogs, strategy ect. on LD I don't think I know a single new mod after the sites split and I have this site open every day. I think this does affect how people interact and how involved they get with the community here.

Personally I just enjoyed seeing all the different icons the mods used on TL
LiquidDota Staff
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 21 2014 13:57 GMT
#147
On November 21 2014 16:40 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 11:51 Yergidy wrote:
On November 21 2014 09:08 LeLoup wrote:
The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO.


No shit, I can't even tell who's a god damned admin in this place.


this is a decent point. on TL you could really see the involvement from the staff in blogs, strategy ect. on LD I don't think I know a single new mod after the sites split and I have this site open every day. I think this does affect how people interact and how involved they get with the community here.

Personally I just enjoyed seeing all the different icons the mods used on TL


Wasn't Firebolt a new mod? I can't remember
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 21 2014 14:03 GMT
#148
On November 21 2014 09:08 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 07:37 bagels21 wrote:
On November 21 2014 04:44 Talin wrote:
I don't post much any more. I don't play the game, and barely watch it, and let's be honest I didn't have a lot to say even while I did both of those things actively. My only recent, eh, contribution was engaging in pointless speculation in TL Team Discussion thread.

But I do like the feel of this place. It has a bit of a chill vibe to it the way old TL.net or later the BW section of TL did. It sporadically produces great content (Art of Support, the TI team articles, and so on). It's not crowded and I can recognize most people's usernames. Yes, there's a lack of famous players / personalities posting, but when someone does like Aui recently, he's reasonably accessible and you're not just one of the thousands of people asking questions as you would be over Twitter or Reddit. Bulba used to post quite often, but it seems he stopped after he left the team.

To be honest I really never cared for preview/recap articles in any of the games TL covers, I see it as mostly filler content made just so that there's something going on in the news feed. Obviously with the exception of some really extraordinary ones, such as SKT vs KT SPL finals preview and recap - look at that shit, just LOOK at it.

Honestly, I don't think SC2 coverage and articles are a lot better, there's just more of it. What really makes the difference is that there's a passion in writing that exudes from the articles like the ones I linked above, but that has long since been substituted by dry esports journalism. Whether we get one such article a week or a dozen doesn't really make too much of a difference to me.


I still find tournament discussion on LD better than any english site in the world. (occasionally we get people like Mensol lol) JD/reddit/gosugamers/nadota all lack the intelligence of the TL/LD community. The old GD/merged site led a lot of the SC2 crowd into Dota2, but I don't think there's a silver bullet to reinvigorating this website.

If we're being honest, the site overall is better than most other communities. We have the best strategy forum of anywhere, the LR threads are certainly better for following/reacting to tournaments than reddit, and the Tavern is pretty nice to chill and talk about the random stuff.

The thing it lacks is the things the community can't do (not without help at least). Original content and interaction with staff being the two biggest ones IMO. Activity on the forum isn't an issue, but it doesn't feel like a dota 2 website so much as a place where a lot of people just talk about Dota 2.


Yeah, I felt like the peak level of production from Liquid Dota/TLDota2 was probably TI3. Oh well, I still enjoy this site the most (sometimes I read r/dota2 for lolz purposes/hate - case in point, ad rant right now that's 1500+ comments strong)

"but it doesn't feel like a dota 2 website so much as a place where a lot of people just talk about Dota 2" too true
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 14:34:00
November 21 2014 14:31 GMT
#149
- I think heartstone and sc2 liquid communities are bigger, because its more openminded and both are mostly a 1v1 games. Even a bronze league player can post new topics backed by data, in those topics master players still thank the bronzenoobs for their contribution, analysis and effort (even if the quality of the content is debatable, but thats besides the point).

- On liquiddota, members in some cases focus more on winning an argument ("only 1 answer possible" kind off attitude) or downvoting someones argument instead of just trying to answer the question based on their own experiences. Even open minded people in normal life tend to fight off an aggressive reaction to a post they just made, maybe liquiddota community is in puberty and it will eventually blow over and grow after .

E: im not jesus, i sometimes argue too.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 21 2014 14:40 GMT
#150
On November 21 2014 14:45 Erasme wrote:
irc is pretty nice
i dont see any racism or anything

Don't mind Erasme, he is a known blind person
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
November 21 2014 14:56 GMT
#151
Yeah Mod's definitely need something more distinctive. I have no idea who is staff or a mod on this site unless they say they are
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
November 21 2014 15:05 GMT
#152
On November 21 2014 23:56 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Yeah Mod's definitely need something more distinctive. I have no idea who is staff or a mod on this site unless they say they are


Uruk Hai logo's instead of doto ones;)
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
November 21 2014 15:48 GMT
#153
Seeing the same article on the front page for 20 days straight doesn't help no
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 21 2014 15:54 GMT
#154
On November 22 2014 00:48 spacer wrote:
Seeing the same article on the front page for 20 days straight doesn't help no

Write a new one. Seriously. That shit doesn't write itself and the people doing it don't get paid.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
November 21 2014 15:55 GMT
#155
this lack of response from the admins is worrying though
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 21 2014 15:58 GMT
#156
On November 22 2014 00:55 ahswtini wrote:
this lack of response from the admins is worrying though

Emu's made literlaly 16 posts in this thread
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 21 2014 16:09 GMT
#157
On November 22 2014 00:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 00:55 ahswtini wrote:
this lack of response from the admins is worrying though

Emu's made literlaly 16 posts in this thread

MATH HARD! Remember Emu is an admin, also hard, even though I said it earlier on the page.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 16:11:40
November 21 2014 16:11 GMT
#158
He also said he isn't involved due to being in his final year of uni. Math might be hard, but reading seems to be even harder
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 21 2014 16:19 GMT
#159
On November 22 2014 01:11 Qbek wrote:
He also said he isn't involved due to being in his final year of uni. Math might be hard, but reading seems to be even harder

no he said he isn't generating content. He's still an admin, still participates in decision making etc.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 21 2014 16:20 GMT
#160
On November 22 2014 01:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 01:11 Qbek wrote:
He also said he isn't involved due to being in his final year of uni. Math might be hard, but reading seems to be even harder

no he said he isn't generating content. He's still an admin, still participates in decision making etc.

Like this thread, for instance. Banning fools doesn't take nearly as much time as writing stuff.
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