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On July 10 2014 07:45 MysterySC wrote:
I did read the post... can we agree that basic literacy is a given here... lol ? I really respect your post, if you lurk my comments a few years ago i mentioned something roughly saying that although i was never a huge fan of your casting, the fact that you picked up a bunch of ex slayers players was really classy and good for the scene. My fundamental problem today is that your creating a story about yourself here when the big deal should be a 16 year old relatively unknown foreigner taking down an all korean team. Also... as a very influential person in the community maybe try and ratchet down the personal attacks, something my parents taught me at a young age, and something that most adults really try and uphold when they are a public influential voice to a younger generation. One of my best friends and roommate in undergrad was Korean... basically everybody in the community calls koreans, koreans due to the SC skill implications not due to some kind of weird racist agenda. (why did i just have to explain that?)
What you think the story is has no relevance here. Want to write your own "story"? Go and write your own blog. I won't be as disrespectful in yours as you have been in mine.
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On July 10 2014 07:51 qxc wrote:
I always felt like atc had the revival rule because acer had a relatively shallow lineup for a long time (with 1-2 extremely strong players) and so revives (especially the 3 revive season) helped them perform better.
The rules make a lot of sense when I consider them in this way, regardless of if I agree or not.
As a team cup it should more focus on the whole team than on "aces".
A BO7 format where each player is only allowed to play at most 3 games (no matter the outcome) would be more interesting to watch other than one player dominating and maybe some others having a cameo appearance.
But that's only my personal preference as a viewer.
So, good night everyone - I finished watching the world cup nerd-style (http://sport.orf.at/fifawm2014/liveticker/#/live/?match=0), time to go to bed !
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On July 10 2014 06:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
After todays events it makes sense to make a statement.
Firstly an apology to all of the fans for letting them down today. We expected Acer to be a tough fight, we have never beaten them in this format though we have many times come within 1 map of it.
This isn't quite true as Axiom defeated Acer 5-3 in the opening round of the Acer Teamstory Cup Season 2.
The article is a good one though and I really hope to see a strong Axiom performance next season in (hopefully) a pro-league format!
Fighting!
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On July 10 2014 07:05 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:58 KadaverBB wrote:
To be fair, it is possible to express humor/sarcasm without using twitch memes :D
Good post obviously, I like hearing your thoughts about formats etc. possible, but getting harder and harder without the k-word
I never understood this whole kappa thing so can anyone explain me why it made harder to make sarcastic/ironic comments that could be read as such?
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Canada11563 Posts
Never liked all kill formats. Never have, never will. Whether I am watching it, or playing in a tourney, I prefer it when you cannot repeat players, except for the ace match. As you already said, TB, it is much easier for a player to prepare map specifically. And when you prepare map specifics, you have a better shot of sniping top players (as well as the whole strategy of trying to guess who they other team is going to send out on what map.)
But it seems to me, if the trouble is that some teams are not very large, best of 7 might be over-ambitious. Best of 5 works great for small teams. If there is an ace match, technically you only need 4 people on your team.
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On July 10 2014 08:10 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 07:05 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2014 06:58 KadaverBB wrote:
To be fair, it is possible to express humor/sarcasm without using twitch memes :D
Good post obviously, I like hearing your thoughts about formats etc. possible, but getting harder and harder without the k-word I never understood this whole kappa thing so can anyone explain me why it made harder to make sarcastic/ironic comments that could be read as such?
k is just a universally accepted way of indicating your comment isn't meant to be taken seriously, it's nice.
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On July 10 2014 08:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 08:10 Rollora wrote:On July 10 2014 07:05 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2014 06:58 KadaverBB wrote:
To be fair, it is possible to express humor/sarcasm without using twitch memes :D
Good post obviously, I like hearing your thoughts about formats etc. possible, but getting harder and harder without the k-word I never understood this whole kappa thing so can anyone explain me why it made harder to make sarcastic/ironic comments that could be read as such? k is just a universally accepted way of indicating your comment isn't meant to be taken seriously, it's nice.
I thought "j/k" was still a thing 
Nice blog though, I was disapointed about Axioms loss, your players weren't in great shape imho. I was obviously rooting for Ax because Ryung (imbaimbaimba)and Heart.
I really think balance has a thing to do with the overall result of Ax vs mouz but Sjaak did well anyway so who knows.
I really think we need another teamleague, a comeback of the GSTL would be awesome. Or a foreign Pro League in addition with ATC would be cool too.
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On July 10 2014 06:27 Ctone23 wrote:I'm for a consistent format for all team leagues. Thanks for the write-up, and thank you for sending out that note about the cynical laugh emote on Twitch. I was legitimately upset when I found out it was gone. (jk not that upset  )
I was lol.  It is genuinely my favourite emote aside from the cynicalAndmyax one. I totally get why it's gone though and I'm really glad though that TB is going to try and remake it somehow.
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On July 10 2014 06:48 Vertitto wrote:
isn't bo7 a bit too big?
Most teams don't even have so many players in their rosters.
Every single team in the ATC this season has enough players on their roster to be able to field enough players for a Bo7.
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France7248 Posts
On July 10 2014 08:23 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 06:48 Vertitto wrote:
isn't bo7 a bit too big?
Most teams don't even have so many players in their rosters. Every single team in the ATC this season has enough players on their roster to be able to field enough players for a Bo7.
not in PL format
axiom, for example, only have 5 players where you would need 6
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... No relevance? Probably similar relevance that any comment on forums has. By blog I'm sure you mean commenting on TL like your initial post? I refrained from personal attacks especially ones as pathetic as claiming someone can't read or is a racist... I can tell that you really don't want me to comment here anymore so enjoy have your fun here sans opinion.
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On July 10 2014 08:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 08:10 Rollora wrote:On July 10 2014 07:05 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2014 06:58 KadaverBB wrote:
To be fair, it is possible to express humor/sarcasm without using twitch memes :D
Good post obviously, I like hearing your thoughts about formats etc. possible, but getting harder and harder without the k-word I never understood this whole kappa thing so can anyone explain me why it made harder to make sarcastic/ironic comments that could be read as such? k is just a universally accepted way of indicating your comment isn't meant to be taken seriously, it's nice.
ah, ok well thx for the explanation. I should maybe hangout more in twitch chat 
Anyways whatever happens, I wish you and the players good luck. Sometimes there are mediocre, even bad performances but those tend to "awaken" players. Happened in Football Championship to the Germans, and as a KT Fan I hope that happens to them in the PL Finals, as their last round was... not the best.
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I think one round all-kill (Bo7 without revive) and one round Proleague-mode (Bo5 with ace) would be very nice but there would be too many matches (132). Thus maybe if the 12 teams are split in two groups, it would be doable (60 matches vs 66 right now).
2 groups of 6 teams, the #1 goes to the semifinals and the #2 and #3 from each group fight in playoffs.
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On July 10 2014 08:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 08:10 Rollora wrote:On July 10 2014 07:05 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2014 06:58 KadaverBB wrote:
To be fair, it is possible to express humor/sarcasm without using twitch memes :D
Good post obviously, I like hearing your thoughts about formats etc. possible, but getting harder and harder without the k-word I never understood this whole kappa thing so can anyone explain me why it made harder to make sarcastic/ironic comments that could be read as such? k is just a universally accepted way of indicating your comment isn't meant to be taken seriously, it's nice.
I tend to disagree here. Sarcasm kinda loses it's point, when it can be detected without thinking and kappa allows just that.
Anyway, about things, that actually matter: If a PL format would be implemented, would you agree, that the single matches should be bo3 instead of bo1? I feel that one bo1 per week does not really give a player that much oppurtunity to shine and also allows bigger upsets to happen (ofc a worse player can upset someone better in bo1 all-kill as well, but they will get eliminated sooner or later) and bo3 could fix both of those things to a certain point.
In either case, thanks for sharing your opinion and I hope to face you in next seasons playoffs again.
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On July 10 2014 08:28 MysterySC wrote:
... No relevance? Probably similar relevance that any comment on forums has. By blog I'm sure you mean commenting on TL like your initial post? I refrained from personal attacks especially ones as pathetic as claiming someone can't read or is a racist... I can tell that you really don't want me to comment here anymore so enjoy have your fun here sans opinion.
Tb want to make a blog about his team performance and what he thinks about the format of ATC and you are blaming him for not making a story about Sjaak ? What's wrong with you ? Do it yourself if you want it so badly.
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TB there's no need to apologize we still love you!
Also, I really want the Axiom Cherry Brown keyboard but it's all sold out =(
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I like what TB says and i think changing the system would be a great idea.
Its not always black or white you have to consider the number of players in a team and which format you exactly take and earn experience in what you do...hmm...what i dont think make sense is to say that unknown players dont have the chance to present themself in ATC (Dunno who said that in the comments) cause just today someone prooved his value and quite a few did before (Dayshi in the last seasons) and others.
But i am actually also a fan of trying to make it "more a teamleague" i was always super sad that 2on2 suckz so much in SC2 and is imo not balanced enough. It would have been a great addition.
Tbh its not sure if and when we have a new ATC even when i would like to do one more in SC2 its pretty tough to get new budgets for SC2 and i am fighting very hard for that...
I already thought a lot about it and if there are options if we do not get the full budget...
Lets see what the future says!
Thanks for the write up!
//Dennis
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On July 10 2014 07:31 TotalBiscuit wrote:Turns out cancer treatment does that to a person, who knew.
Trust you to use that as a reason to be a complete prick and belittle people suffering from the disease, including yourself.
IDK, i keep looking at this comment and thinking its harsh but you really shouldn't use something like cancer as an excuse like that.
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On July 10 2014 09:34 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 07:31 TotalBiscuit wrote:It really doesn't take much to get you going these days -.- Turns out cancer treatment does that to a person, who knew. Trust you to use that as a reason to be a complete prick and belittle people suffering from the disease, including yourself. IDK, i keep looking at this comment and thinking its harsh but you really shouldn't use something like cancer as an excuse like that.
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You can't see how Chemo would make someone irritable?
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On July 10 2014 09:31 TaKeSeN wrote:
I like what TB says and i think changing the system would be a great idea.
Its not always black or white you have to consider the number of players in a team and which format you exactly take and earn experience in what you do...hmm...what i dont think make sense is to say that unknown players dont have the chance to present themself in ATC (Dunno who said that in the comments) cause just today someone prooved his value and quite a few did before (Dayshi in the last seasons) and others.
But i am actually also a fan of trying to make it "more a teamleague" i was always super sad that 2on2 suckz so much in SC2 and is imo not balanced enough. It would have been a great addition.
Tbh its not sure if and when we have a new ATC even when i would like to do one more in SC2 its pretty tough to get new budgets for SC2 and i am fighting very hard for that...
I already thought a lot about it and if there are options if we do not get the full budget...
Lets see what the future says!
Thanks for the write up!
//Dennis
That's great to hear. Would be really cool to see teams have a proleague like experience outside of proleague. IE lineups announced in advance so players can plan builds etc. Maybe even have a 2v2 like clanwars for one of the matches which players can double up in so teams don't need so many players to compete. Honestly, I would be happy with just the revive rule being binned. Innovation x2 is pretty much impossible for any team outside of Korea and perhaps liquid.
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