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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 29 2014 03:07 GMT
#101
On June 29 2014 12:03 ninazerg wrote:
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On June 29 2014 11:59 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:57 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:56 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:56 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:54 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:52 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:48 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:44 ninazerg wrote:
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lol, I can only assume you're too noob at BW to see the difference between pro-players and iccup scrubs. But that's to be expected from US East users. I don't know how you can sit there and pretend that there isn't something wrong when someone who sucked at BW can beat someone who was godly in BW when they play SC2 because it's suddenly "a different game", especially when you yourself mention that pro-gamers have practice houses where they can train full-time. If you practice full-time, you shouldn't drop games to someone who never was good at RTS to begin with, and only plays part-time on NA server.


Did you even read what I wrote, or are you illiterate? Did you miss the part where I said "This, by no means, made any of them invincible or unbeatable, and the same goes for SC2 pros, so I don't really see why you're so surprised that someone good can lose to someone not as good."? or when I said "non-pros sometimes beat pros, like LancerX beating sSak, Bizzy beating Bisu, dRaW beating TerrOr[fOu], Mondragon beating SaviOr, Incontrol and Advokate beating Jaedong, Testie beating Midas, and so on."? You keep going back to Brood War to make some kind of circular argument about how progamers are unbeatable when there is no evidence to support that claim. Pro-gamers will, of course, beat nub players more than they lose, but you can't win every single game ever, especially when the "newbs" have a lot of experience themselves.

Also, don't talk about BW skill if you don't play.


I was A- on WGTour and B rank on iCCup, what are you, D+/C-? I'm tired of discussing things with people who have no clear idea what they're talking about. Since you have nothing to contribute to this discussing except saying the same stupid arguments over and over again, stay in school, go read a book, do something to educate yourself.

Have a wonderful day.


Yeah, everyone claims to have been "A- on WGTour" because there's no way to check. What's your iCCup ID, mr. B rank?


Look up gNs.I-Seraphim or Barbedwire

Okay, bye.


"ID not found" for both of those. Good job looking like a total idiot.


iccup probably deleted them, so what


Go 1v1? We'll go bo5

Python, Destination, Fighting Spirit, Electric Circuit, Heartbreak Ridge

Get on iccup or fish


lol, I haven't played in like 2 years and don't even have BW installed, what makes you think I'm going to play you and let you pick a bunch of maps I don't even know?


I see, you're going to talk about how you're "B rank" and say I'm a noob at Brood War, and then do this. Why would you ever uninstall Brood War to begin with? Go install it, I'll wait.


I'm really out of form, you'd probably win, besides, I only play DotA2 now. gl with your delusions though.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 29 2014 03:07 GMT
#102
On June 29 2014 12:07 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 12:03 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 12:00 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:59 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:57 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:56 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:56 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:54 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:52 ninazerg wrote:
On June 29 2014 11:48 ninazerg wrote:
[quote]

Did you even read what I wrote, or are you illiterate? Did you miss the part where I said "This, by no means, made any of them invincible or unbeatable, and the same goes for SC2 pros, so I don't really see why you're so surprised that someone good can lose to someone not as good."? or when I said "non-pros sometimes beat pros, like LancerX beating sSak, Bizzy beating Bisu, dRaW beating TerrOr[fOu], Mondragon beating SaviOr, Incontrol and Advokate beating Jaedong, Testie beating Midas, and so on."? You keep going back to Brood War to make some kind of circular argument about how progamers are unbeatable when there is no evidence to support that claim. Pro-gamers will, of course, beat nub players more than they lose, but you can't win every single game ever, especially when the "newbs" have a lot of experience themselves.

Also, don't talk about BW skill if you don't play.


I was A- on WGTour and B rank on iCCup, what are you, D+/C-? I'm tired of discussing things with people who have no clear idea what they're talking about. Since you have nothing to contribute to this discussing except saying the same stupid arguments over and over again, stay in school, go read a book, do something to educate yourself.

Have a wonderful day.


Yeah, everyone claims to have been "A- on WGTour" because there's no way to check. What's your iCCup ID, mr. B rank?


Look up gNs.I-Seraphim or Barbedwire

Okay, bye.


"ID not found" for both of those. Good job looking like a total idiot.


iccup probably deleted them, so what


Go 1v1? We'll go bo5

Python, Destination, Fighting Spirit, Electric Circuit, Heartbreak Ridge

Get on iccup or fish


lol, I haven't played in like 2 years and don't even have BW installed, what makes you think I'm going to play you and let you pick a bunch of maps I don't even know?


I see, you're going to talk about how you're "B rank" and say I'm a noob at Brood War, and then do this. Why would you ever uninstall Brood War to begin with? Go install it, I'll wait.


I'm really out of form, you'd probably win, besides, I only play DotA2 now. gl with your delusions though.


Smells like dodge to me.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 29 2014 03:39 GMT
#103
I agree with ninazerg. This other ninazerg should gtfo
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 29 2014 04:48 GMT
#104
Can we all just assume SC2 is dead and get on with enjoying the game that we love lol.

+ Show Spoiler [necro] +
Extra points if we just assume it's undead and will never actually die since it's already ded n stoof
User was warned for too many mimes.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 29 2014 16:39 GMT
#105
C-Class tournies: HSC + ShoutCraft.


A-Class tournies: WCS EU


lol
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
PickyProtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Ireland74 Posts
June 29 2014 17:23 GMT
#106
On June 30 2014 01:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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C-Class tournies: HSC + ShoutCraft.


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A-Class tournies: WCS EU


lol


If anything Shoutcraft has had one of the most stacked tournament all year!
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 19:30:29
June 29 2014 19:27 GMT
#107
The problem with SC2 is that it's overly balanced? Wtf am I reading? Is Chess "overly balanced?" Both players LITERALLY have exactly the same pieces that start in the same position, the only difference between them is one player gets to move first; it doesn't get any more balanced than that! And yet, Chess has managed to be a highly competitive sport (if you want to call it that) for years.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 29 2014 21:26 GMT
#108
On June 30 2014 04:27 Penguinator wrote:
The problem with SC2 is that it's overly balanced? Wtf am I reading? Is Chess "overly balanced?" Both players LITERALLY have exactly the same pieces that start in the same position, the only difference between them is one player gets to move first; it doesn't get any more balanced than that! And yet, Chess has managed to be a highly competitive sport (if you want to call it that) for years.


Have you ever watched a professional chess match? It's like every game is a draw so they have to play over and over for days with no food or sleep until someone wins a best of five, so it's like three wins, two losses, fifteen draws at the end.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Yourmomsbasement
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada87 Posts
June 30 2014 00:50 GMT
#109
Oh, I was just playing around with the TaeJa love post. My little nod to BisuDagger or any other rabid fanboy/fangal.

Seeing as it took over the discussion, it seems like more DH's and HSC's with huge prize pools and interesting breaks between matches, would be exactly what would help boost SC2 up in popularity. Is this not the goal? I love GSL, less then in years past, but still big ♥♥♥'s.

Korea needs to build up however suits them best, forge the mightiest warriors in the crucible of PL and GSL. Train snipers, macro bots, 12 year old wonderkids! If they then send out those best of the best players to our foreign tournaments we will get epic clashes of styles and skills. The fans will debate stats and who is better, what tournaments really matter, what patch who rode to the 1st prize.

Wait... we do that already. Must be that SC2 is doing just fine.

Liquid Fighting.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
June 30 2014 02:06 GMT
#110
On June 30 2014 09:50 Yourmomsbasement wrote:
Oh, I was just playing around with the TaeJa love post. My little nod to BisuDagger or any other rabid fanboy/fangal.

Seeing as it took over the discussion, it seems like more DH's and HSC's with huge prize pools and interesting breaks between matches, would be exactly what would help boost SC2 up in popularity. Is this not the goal? I love GSL, less then in years past, but still big ♥♥♥'s.

Korea needs to build up however suits them best, forge the mightiest warriors in the crucible of PL and GSL. Train snipers, macro bots, 12 year old wonderkids! If they then send out those best of the best players to our foreign tournaments we will get epic clashes of styles and skills. The fans will debate stats and who is better, what tournaments really matter, what patch who rode to the 1st prize.

Wait... we do that already. Must be that SC2 is doing just fine.

Liquid Fighting.

Never back down from a well thought out fanboy post. You've definitely shown me I should be posting Bisu's name more times in my posts as well. My compliments to you geniusness.

Oh and, bisu bisu bisu bisu
Also my useful contribution to this discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/433721-saving-sc2
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 01 2014 03:55 GMT
#111
Haha oh lord! Nina wins thread again spending an entire page in a self argument. All we can really surmise is that Ninazerg clearly destroyed her opponent in the debate.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 05:05:12
July 01 2014 05:04 GMT
#112
Maybe people are just bored of sc 2. It is an old game. Think about it, only real die hards watched and played bw when Warcraft 3 was in its prime. Now wc 3 is dead, cause everyone moved to sc 2 I guess for myself if I'm not playing it I'm not gonna watch it.
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
July 01 2014 08:38 GMT
#113
Finally read the OP. I think this graphic shows what I think about it deep down.

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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
July 01 2014 08:56 GMT
#114
Nina posts were amazing. Fucking Nina needs to give up. Nina is gonna kick that noobs ass.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Hellbat
Profile Joined June 2013
223 Posts
March 17 2015 17:03 GMT
#115
On June 28 2014 20:24 aZealot wrote:
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On June 28 2014 05:43 PickyProtoss wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 aZealot wrote:
It's all very well to talk about not trying for perfect balance, but the community at large (at least that part of it that posts on TL/SC2 Forums/Reddit) tends to be very vocal when it comes to balance. Of course, then parts of that community also whine about the game being stale etc but consistency is difficult to ask for in anyone, let alone SC2 players.

I'd like it if Blizzard left the game alone for extended periods, and made public statements to that effect, but I'm in a minority.


Agreed, I am all for patching bugs and making the game more efficient to play, but patches that make the units better or worse, MSC, Oracle, Hellbat, Infestor etc... it is detrimental to the players-> fanbase -> game.


Actually, now that I think about it, Blizzard have said they are happy with 55 - 45 which is reasonable to me and is not perfect balance. That said, I still think that the game could be left alone a lot more than it is - if not for all the crying and the whine.

However, I don't agree with your claim that SC2 is dying. That really is a load of horseshit. And has been for a long time.


just take a look at the brood war section. that game will be 17 this year and people still play, talk, and love bw. LotV isn't even out yet so no way is sc2 dead
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 17 2015 23:24 GMT
#116
Sick necro.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 20 2015 09:42 GMT
#117
great graph
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
March 20 2015 13:40 GMT
#118
Nina is just buffering her post count by filling out pages in blogs, she knows MIR don't come down here to the depths
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
March 20 2015 15:09 GMT
#119
nina's dedication to her craft is impressive but we all know sc2 died when I left
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 10 2015 10:04 GMT
#120
On March 21 2015 00:09 QuanticHawk wrote:
nina's dedication to her craft is impressive but we all know sc2 died when I left


It really did go downhill after you left.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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