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On June 29 2014 12:03 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 12:00 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:59 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:57 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:56 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:56 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:54 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:52 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:48 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:44 ninazerg wrote:
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lol, I can only assume you're too noob at BW to see the difference between pro-players and iccup scrubs. But that's to be expected from US East users. I don't know how you can sit there and pretend that there isn't something wrong when someone who sucked at BW can beat someone who was godly in BW when they play SC2 because it's suddenly "a different game", especially when you yourself mention that pro-gamers have practice houses where they can train full-time. If you practice full-time, you shouldn't drop games to someone who never was good at RTS to begin with, and only plays part-time on NA server.
Did you even read what I wrote, or are you illiterate? Did you miss the part where I said "This, by no means, made any of them invincible or unbeatable, and the same goes for SC2 pros, so I don't really see why you're so surprised that someone good can lose to someone not as good."? or when I said "non-pros sometimes beat pros, like LancerX beating sSak, Bizzy beating Bisu, dRaW beating TerrOr[fOu], Mondragon beating SaviOr, Incontrol and Advokate beating Jaedong, Testie beating Midas, and so on."? You keep going back to Brood War to make some kind of circular argument about how progamers are unbeatable when there is no evidence to support that claim. Pro-gamers will, of course, beat nub players more than they lose, but you can't win every single game ever, especially when the "newbs" have a lot of experience themselves. Also, don't talk about BW skill if you don't play. I was A- on WGTour and B rank on iCCup, what are you, D+/C-? I'm tired of discussing things with people who have no clear idea what they're talking about. Since you have nothing to contribute to this discussing except saying the same stupid arguments over and over again, stay in school, go read a book, do something to educate yourself. Have a wonderful day. Yeah, everyone claims to have been "A- on WGTour" because there's no way to check. What's your iCCup ID, mr. B rank? Look up gNs.I-Seraphim or Barbedwire Okay, bye. "ID not found" for both of those. Good job looking like a total idiot. iccup probably deleted them, so what Go 1v1? We'll go bo5 Python, Destination, Fighting Spirit, Electric Circuit, Heartbreak Ridge Get on iccup or fish lol, I haven't played in like 2 years and don't even have BW installed, what makes you think I'm going to play you and let you pick a bunch of maps I don't even know? I see, you're going to talk about how you're "B rank" and say I'm a noob at Brood War, and then do this. Why would you ever uninstall Brood War to begin with? Go install it, I'll wait.
I'm really out of form, you'd probably win, besides, I only play DotA2 now. gl with your delusions though.
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On June 29 2014 12:07 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 12:03 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 12:00 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:59 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:57 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:56 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:56 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:54 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:52 ninazerg wrote:On June 29 2014 11:48 ninazerg wrote:
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Did you even read what I wrote, or are you illiterate? Did you miss the part where I said "This, by no means, made any of them invincible or unbeatable, and the same goes for SC2 pros, so I don't really see why you're so surprised that someone good can lose to someone not as good."? or when I said "non-pros sometimes beat pros, like LancerX beating sSak, Bizzy beating Bisu, dRaW beating TerrOr[fOu], Mondragon beating SaviOr, Incontrol and Advokate beating Jaedong, Testie beating Midas, and so on."? You keep going back to Brood War to make some kind of circular argument about how progamers are unbeatable when there is no evidence to support that claim. Pro-gamers will, of course, beat nub players more than they lose, but you can't win every single game ever, especially when the "newbs" have a lot of experience themselves.
Also, don't talk about BW skill if you don't play. I was A- on WGTour and B rank on iCCup, what are you, D+/C-? I'm tired of discussing things with people who have no clear idea what they're talking about. Since you have nothing to contribute to this discussing except saying the same stupid arguments over and over again, stay in school, go read a book, do something to educate yourself. Have a wonderful day. Yeah, everyone claims to have been "A- on WGTour" because there's no way to check. What's your iCCup ID, mr. B rank? Look up gNs.I-Seraphim or Barbedwire Okay, bye. "ID not found" for both of those. Good job looking like a total idiot. iccup probably deleted them, so what Go 1v1? We'll go bo5 Python, Destination, Fighting Spirit, Electric Circuit, Heartbreak Ridge Get on iccup or fish lol, I haven't played in like 2 years and don't even have BW installed, what makes you think I'm going to play you and let you pick a bunch of maps I don't even know? I see, you're going to talk about how you're "B rank" and say I'm a noob at Brood War, and then do this. Why would you ever uninstall Brood War to begin with? Go install it, I'll wait. I'm really out of form, you'd probably win, besides, I only play DotA2 now. gl with your delusions though.
Smells like dodge to me.
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United States23455 Posts
I agree with ninazerg. This other ninazerg should gtfo
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Can we all just assume SC2 is dead and get on with enjoying the game that we love lol.
+ Show Spoiler [necro] +Extra points if we just assume it's undead and will never actually die since it's already ded n stoof
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C-Class tournies: HSC + ShoutCraft.
A-Class tournies: WCS EU
lol
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On June 30 2014 01:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:lol
If anything Shoutcraft has had one of the most stacked tournament all year!
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The problem with SC2 is that it's overly balanced? Wtf am I reading? Is Chess "overly balanced?" Both players LITERALLY have exactly the same pieces that start in the same position, the only difference between them is one player gets to move first; it doesn't get any more balanced than that! And yet, Chess has managed to be a highly competitive sport (if you want to call it that) for years.
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On June 30 2014 04:27 Penguinator wrote:
The problem with SC2 is that it's overly balanced? Wtf am I reading? Is Chess "overly balanced?" Both players LITERALLY have exactly the same pieces that start in the same position, the only difference between them is one player gets to move first; it doesn't get any more balanced than that! And yet, Chess has managed to be a highly competitive sport (if you want to call it that) for years.
Have you ever watched a professional chess match? It's like every game is a draw so they have to play over and over for days with no food or sleep until someone wins a best of five, so it's like three wins, two losses, fifteen draws at the end.
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Oh, I was just playing around with the TaeJa love post. My little nod to BisuDagger or any other rabid fanboy/fangal.
Seeing as it took over the discussion, it seems like more DH's and HSC's with huge prize pools and interesting breaks between matches, would be exactly what would help boost SC2 up in popularity. Is this not the goal? I love GSL, less then in years past, but still big ♥♥♥'s.
Korea needs to build up however suits them best, forge the mightiest warriors in the crucible of PL and GSL. Train snipers, macro bots, 12 year old wonderkids! If they then send out those best of the best players to our foreign tournaments we will get epic clashes of styles and skills. The fans will debate stats and who is better, what tournaments really matter, what patch who rode to the 1st prize.
Wait... we do that already. Must be that SC2 is doing just fine.
Liquid Fighting.
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Bisutopia19371 Posts
On June 30 2014 09:50 Yourmomsbasement wrote:
Oh, I was just playing around with the TaeJa love post. My little nod to BisuDagger or any other rabid fanboy/fangal.
Seeing as it took over the discussion, it seems like more DH's and HSC's with huge prize pools and interesting breaks between matches, would be exactly what would help boost SC2 up in popularity. Is this not the goal? I love GSL, less then in years past, but still big ♥♥♥'s.
Korea needs to build up however suits them best, forge the mightiest warriors in the crucible of PL and GSL. Train snipers, macro bots, 12 year old wonderkids! If they then send out those best of the best players to our foreign tournaments we will get epic clashes of styles and skills. The fans will debate stats and who is better, what tournaments really matter, what patch who rode to the 1st prize.
Wait... we do that already. Must be that SC2 is doing just fine.
Liquid Fighting.
Never back down from a well thought out fanboy post. You've definitely shown me I should be posting Bisu's name more times in my posts as well. My compliments to you geniusness.
Oh and, bisu bisu bisu bisu
Also my useful contribution to this discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/433721-saving-sc2
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United States8017 Posts
Haha oh lord! Nina wins thread again spending an entire page in a self argument. All we can really surmise is that Ninazerg clearly destroyed her opponent in the debate.
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Maybe people are just bored of sc 2. It is an old game. Think about it, only real die hards watched and played bw when Warcraft 3 was in its prime. Now wc 3 is dead, cause everyone moved to sc 2 I guess for myself if I'm not playing it I'm not gonna watch it.
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Finally read the OP. I think this graphic shows what I think about it deep down.
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Nina posts were amazing. Fucking Nina needs to give up. Nina is gonna kick that noobs ass.
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On June 28 2014 20:24 aZealot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 05:43 PickyProtoss wrote:On June 28 2014 05:34 aZealot wrote:
It's all very well to talk about not trying for perfect balance, but the community at large (at least that part of it that posts on TL/SC2 Forums/Reddit) tends to be very vocal when it comes to balance. Of course, then parts of that community also whine about the game being stale etc but consistency is difficult to ask for in anyone, let alone SC2 players.
I'd like it if Blizzard left the game alone for extended periods, and made public statements to that effect, but I'm in a minority. Agreed, I am all for patching bugs and making the game more efficient to play, but patches that make the units better or worse, MSC, Oracle, Hellbat, Infestor etc... it is detrimental to the players-> fanbase -> game. Actually, now that I think about it, Blizzard have said they are happy with 55 - 45 which is reasonable to me and is not perfect balance. That said, I still think that the game could be left alone a lot more than it is - if not for all the crying and the whine. However, I don't agree with your claim that SC2 is dying. That really is a load of horseshit. And has been for a long time.
just take a look at the brood war section. that game will be 17 this year and people still play, talk, and love bw. LotV isn't even out yet so no way is sc2 dead
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Nina is just buffering her post count by filling out pages in blogs, she knows MIR don't come down here to the depths
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nina's dedication to her craft is impressive but we all know sc2 died when I left
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On March 21 2015 00:09 QuanticHawk wrote:
nina's dedication to her craft is impressive but we all know sc2 died when I left
It really did go downhill after you left.
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