Why SC2 is dying - Page 4

On June 28 2014 18:27 bestman66 wrote:
Uh excuse me but there are 20k GSL viewers who want to say, "WE DON'T THINK SO!"

On June 28 2014 05:43 PickyProtoss wrote:


Agreed, I am all for patching bugs and making the game more efficient to play, but patches that make the units better or worse, MSC, Oracle, Hellbat, Infestor etc... it is detrimental to the players-> fanbase -> game.

On June 28 2014 20:24 aZealot wrote:


Actually, now that I think about it, Blizzard have said they are happy with 55 - 45 which is reasonable to me and is not perfect balance. That said, I still think that the game could be left alone a lot more than it is - if not for all the crying and the whine.

However, I don't agree with your claim that SC2 is dying. That really is a load of horseshit. And has been for a long time.

On June 28 2014 23:01 avilo wrote:
The premise of this blog is completely off from the current reality of the situation - which is the opposite.
Viewership is where it's at now, an all time low, because the game is not being balanced. You cannot have 1+ year of Protoss domination and leave the game as it currently is for much longer.

Also, when SC2 had the most viewership was when there were more foreigners competing with Koreans, less Korean domination, and the game was way more balanced with better representation of all 3 races, and even when T or Z or P did win a few things in a row the domination / OPness was no where near the current level of Protoss imo.

At the current point in time, as a community we should be asking blizzard to more consistently balance and tweak the game, because right now they essentially ignore SC2 for 3-5 months at a time, and then will come in with 1 small change and then ignore the balance again for another 4-5 months.

On June 28 2014 23:45 PickyProtoss wrote:


OMG how cool is this, it is Avilo, that may be the case for professionals, but for casual users price tag and difficult learning curve is hurting the game.

Well the problem with patching is the moment you start you open up a can of worms. Now it's patch everything!

In terms of overall balance Zerg and Protoss are pretty equal I saw today in the GSL finals global stats 52% - 48% for one map and the inverse on a different map. I understand Terrans have not being doing too well, and I think the problem here is the lack of ingenuity when it comes to Terran unit design, in essence they use too much of a prototypical war design, tanks etc... plus this mech vs bio thing is messed up. Still, Taeja and Polt do so well it is hard to argue, even though Terran appear to be lacking! Maybe more friendly maps for Terran?

Yeah in order for the game to be more viable we need more foreigners, the interesting element is how some Koreans have now been assimilated into other regions such as MC (EU) and Polt (NA), so from an advertising perspective they filled a niche! I wonder was that a conscious effort by the players or the actual casters/esports?

Anyway Avilo I appreciate your candidness and respect your comments just as everyone else!

On June 28 2014 20:36 PickyProtoss wrote:


I agree man, in hindsight I should have labelled it something else, I am not that embedded within the community so I didnt know there it was so taboo/polarizing statement to say SC2 is dead.

On June 28 2014 23:01 avilo wrote:
The premise of this blog is completely off from the current reality of the situation - which is the opposite.
Viewership is where it's at now, an all time low, because the game is not being balanced. You cannot have 1+ year of Protoss domination and leave the game as it currently is for much longer.

Also, when SC2 had the most viewership was when there were more foreigners competing with Koreans, less Korean domination, and the game was way more balanced with better representation of all 3 races, and even when T or Z or P did win a few things in a row the domination / OPness was no where near the current level of Protoss imo.

At the current point in time, as a community we should be asking blizzard to more consistently balance and tweak the game, because right now they essentially ignore SC2 for 3-5 months at a time, and then will come in with 1 small change and then ignore the balance again for another 4-5 months.

On June 29 2014 05:03 Yourmomsbasement wrote:
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I thank you for your time.

On June 28 2014 18:27 bestman66 wrote:
Uh excuse me but there are 20k GSL viewers who want to say, "WE DON'T THINK SO!"

On June 29 2014 05:43 Xiphos wrote:

That's not even enough to sustain 5 peoples livielihood.

On June 29 2014 05:45 PickyProtoss wrote:


I've seen Dendi get that when he is streaming on Twitch.

On June 29 2014 05:12 PickyProtoss wrote:


Come on son, Taeja only wins when Kespa dont bother to show up!

On June 29 2014 06:58 Darkhorse wrote:

Or when they go to DH and get rekt before the even hit the money

On June 29 2014 06:58 Darkhorse wrote:

Or when they go to DH and get rekt before the even hit the money

On June 29 2014 07:05 PickyProtoss wrote:


I think a more realistic comparison was IEM Katowice

On June 29 2014 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:

Right the foreign tournament where sOs beat Taeja is a better example than a foreign tournament where Taeja beat sOs because... REASONS.

Believe it or not you can't pick and choose where you pull your stats from just because it helps your point. I'm on my phone but if I weren't I would link you to foreign tournaments where kespa players bombed (because there are several). Btw horrible title mate... Although I think that has been addressed