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Braavos36388 Posts
Part 1 - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/446836-mlg-anaheim-smash
Part 2 - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/449989-mlg-smash-quest-update
I arrived in LA on Friday and stayed at Ken's with KoreanDJ for the week leading up to MLG. In the next few days I must have played hundreds of friendlies with them. At first I was getting 4-stocked repeatedly, the highlight of that stretch being playing vs DJ's Donkey Kong on stream where I only managed to deal maybe 40% of damage total.
But as I adjusted to the pace and lag-free TV (I played mostly on netplay before), I coul feel myself getting better. I took a stock regularly, maybe two sometimes. I started actually converting combos and varying my recovery. I went to Super Smash Sunday that weekend and actually did decently, going 3-4, which I'm very satisfied with. I won a fair share of friendlies and got to play some really good players. SoCal is amazing and I'm sad I don't live there.
On Tuesday we went to the Red Bull offices where I would have my grudge match with MrBitter and Rob Simpson. Bitter had been trash talking me for a solid two months about how I was going to lose when I got there, and if I had played him immediately upon getting off the plane at LAX, maybe he'd have been right. Or it would have been close. But after hundreds of matches against what are essentially GM level players, Bitter and Rob moved so slow and telegraphed and I felt like those guys who take off the ankle weights when training. Ben, I hope you get better by Blizzcon.
What followed at Red Bull was the most hype series of 2v1 and 3v1 money matches ever, where me, Bitter, and HuK actually lost to KDJ 3v1 a few times (lol). I have video evidence and it's quite embarrassing, but seriously that guy is some sort of voodoo master at 1vX, just like in the documentary.
At MLG, I lost my first round to Sheridan, a very good jigglypuff player who actually helped captain the west coast crew battle team. The match wasn't close, I never really had a chance. I had to wait an entire day for my losers match. I managed to win against a random fox player who I nearly 4-stocked. I lost my third match against a fox, though the match was winnable had I played better. It's really hard to play when the conditions are so cold and you aren't warmed up, it makes me appreciate what the pros do even more.
Thus I went 1-2 and won the bet vs Apicella, who kind of shirked the bet because he kept wearing an MLG shirt over the Michigan shirt he was supposed to wear. Probably the only time in the history of OSU that they don't fully pay up. Adam you still owe me.
Here's a picture: http://i.imgur.com/UhFshID.jpg
My experience learning Smash simply taught me that this game is stupidly deep. It also has taught me that it is actually not that difficult to learn, but I have been blessed with extremely capable and helpful teachers and nearly the best practice environment possible. My mindset during the entire "training" was to grind grind grind techskill and brute force it. I learned so much and my experience with being "ok with losing" in Starcraft really helped. Ken, KDJ, and Manacloud (Ken's brother) routinely were surprised at how well I took losing and how fast I could learn.
Even though this was my first time training for a "competitive" game, I've done plenty of sports before and that plus my SC experience with improving in losses prepared me very well. To put this into SC2 terms, in Smash I'd put myself in low to mid masters, in BW terms I'd be about C or C-. I would say my mechanics are far beyond my fundamentals in gameplay, I can do a lot of fancy shit like multishines and shine backairs in practice, but can't really do it in games. Had I stayed a few more weeks in SoCal maybe, but right now I'm pretty satisfied at simply being competent.
I also played a bunch vs friends and even SC2 players like HuK and Qxc (who is actually very good!) in my MLG hotel room. Thanks to Suppy and Ken for carrying a CRT there, and Tofucake or bringing the Wii and attempting to falcon punch in even the most hopeless of situations.
Watching the matches between pros is a different experience when you understand what's going on and how difficult it is to do the stuff they're doing. They make it look so easy, especially just their punish games and ability to never drop combos. The amount of thinking and experience that goes into just a few seconds of high level play is insane. Smash is one of those games where if you're 10% better than someone, you make them look like shit. The skill curve is so much, just levels and levels and levels of players. I never really understood how badly you can lose at something until playing this game.
Is this the end of my smash journey? Definitely not, I put in so many hours into that stupid bird that I will probably continue playing and going to the dutch locals. Everyone in the community was so helpful and nice, great experience all around.
 
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Amazing story HotBid. I remember watching the stream where your Falco was getting destroyed at Ken's house. It is amazing to think that I have been watching your interviews and interactions with the SC2 community for a couple years, but now it is being translated into the amazing game of Melee.
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We got to talk a bit outside Super Arcade, it was a pleasure meeting you man. I hung out a lot with State at MLG and while he was introducing me to all the SC2 peeps he knows, EVERYONE would talk about smash. So awesome that all these players and personalities from games I love are into smash.
Ive been playing maybe a couple weeks less than you and my experience has been almost eerily similar in regards to learning that game.
Anyway, I hope you get to come out to more SoCal events man!
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Really nice blog hot_bid
Your going to the netherlands to play smash there?0_O
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Congratulations! How is the level of skill grinding in Melee compared to those BW micro maps where you got to practice shuttle or muta micro while having to send workers to mine and other multitasking taxes?
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Osaka27156 Posts
On June 24 2014 07:10 sabas123 wrote:
Really nice blog hot_bid
Your going to the netherlands to play smash there?0_O
That's where he lives, yo! The nerve center of the worldwide TL empire!
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Braavos36388 Posts
On June 24 2014 07:10 sabas123 wrote:
Really nice blog hot_bid
Your going to the netherlands to play smash there?0_O
i already have! before i left for socal i went to one local tournament and i've played a few times with local smash players here, the person i learned from most was riff (not sure if you know him)
On June 24 2014 07:21 xes wrote:
Congratulations! How is the level of skill grinding in Melee compared to those BW micro maps where you got to practice shuttle or muta micro while having to send workers to mine and other multitasking taxes?
the micro moves are harder in smash, especially the ones like shield dropping or multishining or ledge cancelling etc, those require very precise timing that is harder to do consistently than anything in BW i've seen. maybe muta vs scourge micro or MM and mass vessel irradiate... but in BW the difficulty was never the individual moves, it was splitting your attention while doing those things.
however, even though smash is very fast, starcraft's multitasking is on a different level, its not something you really experience in smash since you're only really moving around with one character. in terms of difficulty i'd say almost certainly that starcraft is "harder" but the skill of the very top players in smash relative to the others is much greater than SC, since some of them have been playing for a decade now and there's no real ladder where you can just grind games. in order to be the best in smash you have to practice vs the best and it's not easy practice to find.
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Damn hot bid, Nice to see you really strive for something. Makes me think I can do that same but I probably will trip over a pebble and call it a life tomorrow.
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Katowice25012 Posts
Smash is hard as fuck Ken tried for probably an entire night to teach me only short hopping and I still can't do it. Very impressed you won your bet but Adam is a jerk for not owning it. SHIT DOESN'T COUNT, MAN.
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On June 24 2014 07:35 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 07:10 sabas123 wrote:
Really nice blog hot_bid
Your going to the netherlands to play smash there?0_O i already have! before i left for socal i went to one local tournament and i've played a few times with local smash players here, the person i learned from most was riff (not sure if you know him) Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 07:21 xes wrote:
Congratulations! How is the level of skill grinding in Melee compared to those BW micro maps where you got to practice shuttle or muta micro while having to send workers to mine and other multitasking taxes? the micro moves are harder in smash, especially the ones like shield dropping or multishining or ledge cancelling etc, those require very precise timing that is harder to do consistently than anything in BW i've seen. maybe muta vs scourge micro or MM and mass vessel irradiate... but in BW the difficulty was never the individual moves, it was splitting your attention while doing those things. however, even though smash is very fast, starcraft's multitasking is on a different level, its not something you really experience in smash since you're only really moving around with one character. in terms of difficulty i'd say almost certainly that starcraft is "harder" but the skill of the very top players in smash relative to the others is much greater than SC, since some of them have been playing for a decade now and there's no real ladder where you can just grind games. in order to be the best in smash you have to practice vs the best and it's not easy practice to find.
fuck man didn't knew you where also living in the netherlands, which city do you live in?
Would love to play some smash with you althou I suck really hard haha
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As someone who used to play back during the old MLG days, reading your story and watching this weekend has me feeling really nostalgic.
I've been playing again online for a couple months now and I'm planning to go to a few locals once I feel I don't suck too bad lol
On June 24 2014 08:35 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Where in Canada are you?
and Attend locals -> Don't suck is the proper build order, not the other way around :D
Toronto
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I had a pretty unique experience as well, I was a local ref for the event.
This was going to be my 4th MLG Anaheim, haven't been to any others due to logistics. Having gone the past 3 years for Starcraft, and the way Starcraft is going lately...
It was hard to go into this MLG with the same enthusiasm as I had say back in 2011 when Slayers came to Anaheim, or 2012 for kespa night ect. ect.
I was a local ref for smash, I figured what better way to learn a game by reffing for it lol. I have played the game on it's release when I was a young teenager, since then I played Brawl on it's release and watched a little pro smash.
I have to say I saw a ton of smash that weekend, I would ref games 4 at a time. As the bracket went on I saw the players who would fight their way up and see what made them special.
As a long time gamer I do have to say this game is legit, and the community is made out of amazing people.
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On June 24 2014 08:01 chaosTheory_14cc wrote:
As someone who used to play back during the old MLG days, reading your story and watching this weekend has me feeling really nostalgic.
I've been playing again online for a couple months now and I'm planning to go to a few locals once I feel I don't suck too bad lol
Where in Canada are you?
and Attend locals -> Don't suck is the proper build order, not the other way around :D
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Do pros ever pull off a falcon punch?
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United States7481 Posts
On June 24 2014 07:44 Heyoka wrote:
Smash is hard as fuck Ken tried for probably an entire night to teach me only short hopping and I still can't do it. Very impressed you won your bet but Adam is a jerk for not owning it. SHIT DOESN'T COUNT, MAN.
bro you just press the jump button for less time
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To put this into SC2 terms, in Smash I'd put myself in low to mid masters, in BW terms I'd be about C or C-. I watched you play and have some mixed feelings about this. What you said only makes sense if you include all the casual smashers who don't come to tournaments. They aren't really part of our community, so I don't think it makes sense to include them in your ladder analogy. You said yourself you only beat one guy who was a noob. This feels like including all the people who only played campaign in SC2 and never touched ladder, then made them comprise all of bronze and silver. I think "beating one noob" basically puts you as a silver level player.
in terms of difficulty i'd say almost certainly that starcraft is "harder"
If you are talking about SC2, I think you are seriously underrating how hard Melee is to be at a top level. It comes off like some noob Destiny would rant about saying he can't tell the difference between GM on NA and Code S players. I never met anyone who couldn't grind their way to be Masters in SC2. I know people who have been trying to be good at Melee for the better part of a decade and still can't get ranked in their region. I don't think someone who can't get close to beating Sheridan should have an opinion on this issue.
Sorry if my post comes off as dickish or condescending. I read your blog and even introduced myself at MLG and think this Smash quest is amazing, and I love that it's gotten some attention from the SC scene. I hope you continue playing and get that Falco up to par. I think it did look quite good for the amount of time you've been playing.
Do pros ever pull off a falcon punch? There was one this weekend but I think it was a mistake. There are some guaranteed setups, but you still only see it once in a blue moon.
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On June 24 2014 09:18 ShrieK wrote:If you are talking about SC2, I think you are seriously underrating how hard Melee is to be at a top level. It comes off like some noob Destiny would rant about saying he can't tell the difference between GM on NA and Code S players. I never met anyone who couldn't grind their way to be Masters in SC2.
It was in the context of Brood War, which is a bit like playing Babies First Smash but on 4 controllers simultaneously on 4 different screens.
It seems that Smash, like most other fighting games, is only really most appreciated by people who can play it well though. I like to watch it but I never got past the "beat your dorm friends" level so a lot of the technical spectator elements are lost. Contrast this to Starcraft, where maybe you have to be a good player to appreciate 1P cams, but the spectator cam has visual elements completely unrelated to mechanical skill.
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Ok, if he meant it in the context of BW, disregard what I wrote. I just usually see BW called BW, not SC >.<
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On June 24 2014 09:18 ShrieK wrote:
I never met anyone who couldn't grind their way to be Masters in SC2. .
Then there's a lot of people you haven't met.
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dang, I kinda wanna start playing smash now
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Anyone have vids of hot_bid playing on KDJ's stream, or at MLG?
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United States14 Posts
I'm Proud of you Hot_bid, I've always been a Bidliever , you improved a tremendous amount in so little time, it's actually Amaaaaazing, I hope you continue to get better
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United States13143 Posts
Man I miss Smash, haven't played since college.
Nice job!
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Nice! You're already a better player at smash than I ever was.. =)
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Welcome to the fighter grind 8]
Hot_bid top 8 ssbm evo2k14? Last year was sick and I dont even know up from down in melee
If you can make grand finals at a local or make it out of pools at a major, that dude should have to wear a michigan shirt on game day.
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It was incredible to watch you improve from the ground up as I watched ken's stream. Nice job at MLG. Stick with it
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On June 24 2014 12:22 Liquid`Ken wrote:
I'm Proud of you Hot_bid, I've always been a Bidliever , you improved a tremendous amount in so little time, it's actually Amaaaaazing, I hope you continue to get better
I'm Proud of you Hot_bid, I've always been a Bidliever
always been a Bidliever
Bidliever
I snickered, that was clever.
And nice going with your quest! Must have been such a rush to actually come out with that win in an actual MLG competition, I can't even imagine that level lol
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Was fun playing Smash in your room, I'll have to ask Kenny for some training as well so me and Gage can put up a better 2v1 fight vs u next time! XD
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wp Ken. You might have won the battle, but the war rages on. You're going down at Blizzcon.
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Smash is such a technical game you should be proud to have gotten this far and grateful to have such a deep pool of professional players who have played the game for 10+ years mentoring you 
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On June 24 2014 07:44 Heyoka wrote:
Smash is hard as fuck Ken tried for probably an entire night to teach me only short hopping and I still can't do it. Very impressed you won your bet but Adam is a jerk for not owning it. SHIT DOESN'T COUNT, MAN.
The trick is, it's not in how hard you press the button, but in how fast you *release* it. You can hit it hard, just make sure it's a fast tap and not a press. Smack your thumb onto it like Ali G and it'll short hop every time.
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On June 24 2014 15:25 MrBitter wrote:
wp Ken. You might have won the battle, but the war rages on. You're going down at Blizzcon.
props for being a great shittalker but there's only so much shit you can talk if you suck
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Awesome to hear that you're getting good at Smash. Really wanna buy a Wii/GC now and practice myself : )
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Netherlands19135 Posts
On June 24 2014 21:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 15:25 MrBitter wrote:
wp Ken. You might have won the battle, but the war rages on. You're going down at Blizzcon. props for being a great shittalker but there's only so much shit you can talk if you suck
Hahahahha nice :D. Good job HB!
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On June 24 2014 10:24 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 09:18 ShrieK wrote:
I never met anyone who couldn't grind their way to be Masters in SC2. . Then there's a lot of people you haven't met.
Care to link me to some profiles of people with 10,000 solo games who are still in diamond??
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10387 Posts
i dunno about diamond but I've definitely seen ppl on iccup with 500+ games stuck in D LOL
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United States994 Posts
That shirt burned when I put it on and it gave me a rash.
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On June 25 2014 00:46 ShrieK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 10:24 Doodsmack wrote:On June 24 2014 09:18 ShrieK wrote:
I never met anyone who couldn't grind their way to be Masters in SC2. . Then there's a lot of people you haven't met. Care to link me to some profiles of people with 10,000 solo games who are still in diamond??
There's gotta be only a small number of ppl with that many games but I'm sure they're out there. There are people tried really hard but couldn't get out of lower leagues.
Also, master is not what it used to be. There are plenty including myself who peak at what used to be mid master but is now diamond.
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GJ hotbid!
Though i totally agree with shreik (though not quite as harsh haha) that the analogy of being a masters player is noooowhere near close
You can't really apply inui logic in smash (a beat b who beat c therefore a>c) which makes it very hard to judge how good someone is. Also there is another point of judging raw skill vs tournament results (there are a lot of factors which come into play that arn't represented by skill but definitely have a large effect on results - wobbling for example lol)
Like, just saying there are guys in the uk (and the uk is a shitty region) (take for example, deathgazer who is 4th/5th in uk) who consistently 2 stocks me every game, and he didn't even make it through the second round of pools at RoF
Would i call him a masters player? Probably low masters i guess
That says a lot about me (how far i have to go still) and you too
The main issue about smash is the levels of skills are MUCH broader than in starcraft, people near the top are just SO much better than everyone else. Hopefully one day you'll get to play one of the gods and get that feeling for yourself If KDJ feels like a god to you now, it will be even more of a shock when you play someone who would just trash him easily
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Congratulations on achieving what you set out to do Hot_Bid!
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Yeah, Smash really stole the show at this MLG. You could hear it on the SCII stream Days 1 and 2. Ax and his Pikachu were pretty awesome to watch amongst all the Falcos and Foxes. Definitely impressive display and the 300+ man open bracket really was great.
I think about 25% - 50% of the SCII audience was watching smash between games (thanks BattleNet!). Definitely do it again MLG, just don't get rid of SCII to do it. Maybe get rid of COD just because one of those idiots called in a bomb threat to sick SWAT on MLG and another drunk COD guy started a fight in the SCII VIP section. :p
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On June 25 2014 01:30 BrTarolg wrote:
GJ hotbid!
Though i totally agree with shreik (though not quite as harsh haha) that the analogy of being a masters player is noooowhere near close
yeah I agree
KDJ might 3 stock you but he'd also 3 stock people who would in turn 3 stock you. it's deceptive because unless you recognize what the top players are thinking about at certain moments, they don't look as many leagues ahead as they really are. especially if they don't play a super technical fox/falco, then it just looks like "hey i could ftilt -> fair as sheik that's not so hard i bet i'm right up there". people tend to focus on the tech skill and how hard punishes are and call it a wrap because it's pretty damn hard to understand smash's neutral game, which is where most of the difference lies.
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On June 25 2014 00:46 ShrieK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 10:24 Doodsmack wrote:On June 24 2014 09:18 ShrieK wrote:
I never met anyone who couldn't grind their way to be Masters in SC2. . Then there's a lot of people you haven't met. Care to link me to some profiles of people with 10,000 solo games who are still in diamond??
Why is it surprising that people with 10,000 'games' experience become pretty good? Isn't that normal in any field of endeavor? Grinding (sustained practice is a better term) is how you get good at anything. Some people might do it in a lot less games but however long it takes it's still an achievement. I know a couple of guys with huge game counts that can't get out of plat, but it's usually because they're too stubborn to learn and blame the game/balance.
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Great read, made me wanna play SSBM again.
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I knew you were going to win this bet and I am glad you did. I am terrible at the game but I love watching it because I can reminisce back to middle school where I played with my best friends every morning right before school starts for 30mins.
Will we ever get to see the KDJ video beating you guys 1v3?
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Great read !
Maybe I should check out some of the local smash tourneys aswell ;3
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So who is better you or qxc?
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On June 25 2014 00:46 ShrieK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 10:24 Doodsmack wrote:On June 24 2014 09:18 ShrieK wrote:
I never met anyone who couldn't grind their way to be Masters in SC2. . Then there's a lot of people you haven't met. Care to link me to some profiles of people with 10,000 solo games who are still in diamond??
My friend has played over 1500 1v1s (in only a year) and only managed to get promoted to silver in about the last 50 or so. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2925172/1/michaeldittz/
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Braavos36388 Posts
On June 25 2014 06:46 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 01:30 BrTarolg wrote:
GJ hotbid!
Though i totally agree with shreik (though not quite as harsh haha) that the analogy of being a masters player is noooowhere near close yeah I agree KDJ might 3 stock you but he'd also 3 stock people who would in turn 3 stock you. it's deceptive because unless you recognize what the top players are thinking about at certain moments, they don't look as many leagues ahead as they really are. especially if they don't play a super technical fox/falco, then it just looks like "hey i could ftilt -> fair as sheik that's not so hard i bet i'm right up there". people tend to focus on the tech skill and how hard punishes are and call it a wrap because it's pretty damn hard to understand smash's neutral game, which is where most of the difference lies.
ah i wasn't really making a comparison based on relative difficulty but rather relative skill
basically i meant that i was OK at the game but far from elite, the gap between low masters and GM in smash is much harder to bridge based on a lot of reasons i stated in the blog
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Great job on smash, but i miss moar interviews 
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Sweden33719 Posts
It's really hard to play when the conditions are so cold and you aren't warmed up, it makes me appreciate what the pros do even more.
No handwarmers? Rookie mistake.
Awesome read, smash is a truly awesome game, and if I had people to play with or you know, a TV... or a console... or any free hours in the day left etc, I'd totally be tempted to try to learn after all the cool smash things happening lately haha
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On June 25 2014 09:31 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 00:46 ShrieK wrote:On June 24 2014 10:24 Doodsmack wrote:On June 24 2014 09:18 ShrieK wrote:
I never met anyone who couldn't grind their way to be Masters in SC2. . Then there's a lot of people you haven't met. Care to link me to some profiles of people with 10,000 solo games who are still in diamond?? Why is it surprising that people with 10,000 'games' experience become pretty good? Isn't that normal in any field of endeavor? Grinding (sustained practice is a better term) is how you get good at anything. Some people might do it in a lot less games but however long it takes it's still an achievement. I know a couple of guys with huge game counts that can't get out of plat, but it's usually because they're too stubborn to learn and blame the game/balance.
IMO 10,000 Melee games is about what it would take to get "silver" in Melee. Given, a StarCraft game is about 5 times longer, I think 10,000 is a reasonable number. I could 4 stock most people who have played 3,000 hours of Melee and I don't think I am near a "GM" level.
1,500 games is about 1/7 of what I asked for -.-
If he continued going up one league every 1,500 games, he would be on pace for grinding out to be in Masters' by 10,000 games.
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Getting whomped by superior players is certainly an eye opening experience. I started out thinking that I'm the shit because I would be winning most games at home versus people with poor tech skill. Then, after attending my first tournament I understood where I truly lied on the spectrum. Meeting some really good smashers and playing with them once or twice a week has also helped my game immensely solely on the advice I have received. Melee is probably also the only game besides Brood War that has made me love the nature of competitive gaming, so it's very refreshing to play.
Thanks for this blog, good read.
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I'm looking for a game with less build up than SC2 or D2 but with equal depth. I'm kind of inspired - watched the documentary etc, but you have to play this game locally? Can you emulate it with a controller and a PC and play online? I don't know anybody who plays and I know my friends wouldn't keep up enough to keep me challenged with local play
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On June 26 2014 07:48 bardtown wrote:
I'm looking for a game with less build up than SC2 or D2 but with equal depth. I'm kind of inspired - watched the documentary etc, but you have to play this game locally? Can you emulate it with a controller and a PC and play online? I don't know anybody who plays and I know my friends wouldn't keep up enough to keep me challenged with local play
There are weeklies in a lot of places, you'll have to look around. I don't recommend playing on a PC, you'll have to buy a GC / Wii and maybe a CRT television and just start playing.
Learn the game by watching endless videos and copying what they do (or trying to), and just grind tech skill on your own. Weeklies are where you'll improve
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Playing on PC is fine when it's your only option or your local scene isn't that good or you just don't have time to drive out somewhere for a whole evening at a time. HotBid actually mostly played on netplay. It'll take awhile to get used to the CRT when you do go to fests/tourneys though.
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I bet the sole one star that this blog got was Adam.
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Hi Hot_Bid, it's Sheridan from the bracket! I really enjoyed reading your story and was glad you came out the victor especially since I come from a long line of Michiganders myself. Also I'm glad you had a sense of humor about me hitting you with that kind of trollish rest way off stage that one game (let's be honest though it was sick as fuck).
Thanks to you and everyone else at TL for everything you guys have done to help our community grow, hope you find the time to keep playing and improving at Melee.
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United States12240 Posts
Cool blog, nice story. Congratulations on sticking it to those guys HB :> I've always read about how supposedly "deep" Melee is and when watching it I never quite got how that could be, but seeing reputable figures like you and pros who can compare it to games that I do understand help me to establish a reference point.
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Braavos36388 Posts
On June 27 2014 10:51 Hyugalisk wrote:
Hi Hot_Bid, it's Sheridan from the bracket! I really enjoyed reading your story and was glad you came out the victor especially since I come from a long line of Michiganders myself. Also I'm glad you had a sense of humor about me hitting you with that kind of trollish rest way off stage that one game (let's be honest though it was sick as fuck).
Thanks to you and everyone else at TL for everything you guys have done to help our community grow, hope you find the time to keep playing and improving at Melee.
hi!
does anyone really get offended if you pull out some cool move ? i mean... you were winning, you went for some crazy offstage rest that hit, that's always gonna be awesome. its on your opponent to stop and punish "disrespect" or whatever.
im definitely going to keep trying and playing, games too fun.
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I'm a bit late, but I have to know which character(s) qxc plays? Also how good is he relative to you Hot_Bid?
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From what I've seen, QXC plays Sheik and I think he's a little better than Hot_Bid. I have not seen him play recently though.
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