• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:43
CEST 16:43
KST 23:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 222ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos)
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2789 users

MLG Smash Quest Update

Blogs > Hot_Bid
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:40:07
May 07 2014 19:27 GMT
#1
Previously: Part I: Smash and MLG Anaheim

The first part of my blog explains why I am practicing SSBM and what I'm attempting to accomplish at MLG Anaheim: win one (1) match. I'm roughly at the halfway point of practicing before the event in late June.

Before we get into what I've been learning, some positive news. I think I'm pretty good for someone who has "trained" for 3 months. I can often look like a passable player for small portions of matches. I am playing Falco mostly.

However, this game is a textbook example of ignorance being a gatekeeper to accurate skill assessment. I'm almost infinitely better at Smash than a few months ago, but now I can finally accurately see where I am on the spectrum of Smash players, and I can see that I am pretty far away from where I need to be.

I suppose the first question would be, is it even feasible to try to win a match in the MLG open bracket after practicing for only 4-5 months with a moderate amount of non-competitive SSBM experience previously? It appears I may just simply be praying for bracket luck.

What am I doing to practice?

I've never really trained for any competitive video game before. It seems to me, looking at Smash, that the biggest issue for newer players is simply techskill. The knowledge and matchup stuff will come with advice from better players and match play, but techskill is something you can literally just grind yourself in single player. Without a solid base of techskill you can't even do any of the stuff you're supposed to do in matches. I think most new players really need to just get their mechanical ability to a moderate level before even really attempting to form good habits / strategies.

Obviously, Smash isn't my fulltime job, but I try to get as much solo techskill practice in as possible.

[image loading]
Obviously grinding single player for 5 months can make you become Westballz 2.0


Smash is one of those games where in the pressure of a match without time to think or prepare, you're messing up simple shit that you executed perfectly 100x in practice. The answer to that really is to just repeat actions so much that it becomes muscle memory so you don't have to worry about it. And even if you do that, there will be times when you just still fuck up. So that is what a lot of time is spent doing, I'm sitting wavelanding on platforms and shield pressure on a computer and making sure my lasers are the same height.

I've also been playing a good amount on Dolphin netplay. I've found that you simply can't do a lot of stuff reaction and timing wise because of the buffer and input delay, but going from netplay-to-live is far, far more easier than the other way around. After an hour or two I'm fine with the timing of playing on a TV, its almost like Goku taking off the weights. It's incredibly hard the other way around, you feel like you're playing in water after a full day of CRTs.

The skill level in the #dolphin-ssbm channel is mixed. I'm in a weird zone where I beat everyone who is new very easily, and get 3-4 stocked by the actual good people in the channel. The good news is, Smash is fun even when you get owned, and combined with my endless tolerance for grinding 50 losses in a row from StarCraft means I have a pretty mentality for practice and motivation.

The hardest thing it seems is actually applying new stuff I learned to situations in game. Every player seems to have two mental modes, one being where they're trying hard and focusing and the other being this half assed "autopilot." I suppose that's why money matches are cool, they make players try. I try, as much as possible to stay "focused" and treat matches as extended training instead of just trying to win.

Lots of New Players

Lots of people I know who used to play smash for fun before seems to be getting back into it. MrBitter is trash talking me about playing at the Red Bull offices before MLG. I'm getting messages from old college roommates about the game. I even played Liquid Snute who randomly knows how to play Yoshi.

I went to a Dutch local tournament a few weeks ago, where after I was out, I played friendlies for nearly 8 hours straight. It is actually fun to just watch how some of these better players move around the various stages. Everyone was nice and there was a nice atmosphere of everyone cooperating to try to get better. The best player I played in a friendly there was a Marth that casually powershields seven straight lasers on his way to 4-stocking me.

There were a decent number of new players (though I was probably the "newest" since it was my first tournament) and they're all there because of the documentary and because of EVO. I tell them about my quest for an MLG win the reaction is largely mixed, some think I can do it with some luck and some think I have no chance.

There's this prevailing feeling that SoCal is some mythical place where dragons and unicorns exist next to random Luigis who will 4-stock your country's best players, like Korean Brood War circa 2008. That makes it even more exciting.

****
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Solid Jake
Profile Joined November 2010
United States77 Posts
May 07 2014 19:35 GMT
#2
HotBid played with me a few weeks ago. Confirming he is Westballz 2.0
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
May 07 2014 19:39 GMT
#3
You're going to get crushed.

Someone please photo shop Hot Bid in a XXXXXXL Terrell Pryor jersey.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
May 07 2014 19:42 GMT
#4
On May 08 2014 04:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
You're going to get crushed.

Someone please photo shop Hot Bid in a XXXXXXL Terrell Pryor jersey.

I agree, Terrell Pryor is probably the best, most accurate representative of Ohio football.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
May 07 2014 19:42 GMT
#5
Can't wait to see you 4 stocked by Luigi.
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
May 07 2014 19:44 GMT
#6
On May 08 2014 04:42 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 04:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
You're going to get crushed.

Someone please photo shop Hot Bid in a XXXXXXL Terrell Pryor jersey.

I agree, Terrell Pryor is probably the best, most accurate representative of Ohio football.



Better yet, someone photo shop him with half of a Michigan Denard Robinson Jersey and half Appalachian state.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
May 07 2014 19:54 GMT
#7
Best of luck! Get in on that ground floor!
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
May 07 2014 20:14 GMT
#8
you got dis homie
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
May 07 2014 20:19 GMT
#9
Hoping for Hotbid vs d3_crescentia MLG round 1, the match of the century !
VOD finder guy for sc2ratings.com/ ! aka: ogndrahcir, a9azn2 | Go ZerO, Stork, Sea, and KawaiiRice :D | nesc2league.com/forum/index.php | youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
May 07 2014 20:54 GMT
#10
Just what I wanted to read! I wish you all the best of luck, man. I've been techskill grinding a bit too. Shit is insanely hard. Like, I can't even short hop. Been wave dashing for hours but am not close to doing it in an actual match yet. Guess I'll have to keep practicing.

Did you know Akke plays btw? You should challenge him .
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
May 07 2014 21:32 GMT
#11
I believe in you.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 23:11:52
May 07 2014 23:10 GMT
#12
On May 08 2014 04:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
You're going to get crushed.

Someone please photo shop Hot Bid in a XXXXXXL Terrell Pryor jersey.

"You're going to get crushed"

you must know something we don't. I see through your shenanigans

(bracket rigging ofc)
Administrator
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
May 08 2014 00:06 GMT
#13
Snute knows how to play Yoshi.
I approve of this 100% !
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 08 2014 00:16 GMT
#14
You're dead sir. If you're lucky you might meet a newbie such as yourself in the first match though
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
May 08 2014 00:18 GMT
#15
tbh shouldn't there be a ton of new players there? The game has been growing I bet the participant pool will be big.
Administrator
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 00:24:44
May 08 2014 00:24 GMT
#16
In term of my connection to the TL community, I want Hot_Bid to win the entire goddamned Smash tournament and leave Adam weeping in the back alley of the venue over how embarrassingly wrong he was.

But in terms of entertainment, nothing would make me happier than to see Hot_Bid get absolutely crushed and eliminated from the tournament in sixty seconds flat, and to see him droop his shoulders in soul-shattering defeat and anguish as he shambles out of the venue for his flight back home.

Life is tough, man.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46168 Posts
May 08 2014 00:32 GMT
#17
Best of luck! We need an interview of you before/ after you play!

Is there any way you can clone yourself so that you can troll-interview you?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
May 08 2014 00:37 GMT
#18
someone needs to video tape this and make a documentary

Liquid`Ken...Chen
Administrator
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 08 2014 00:38 GMT
#19
kadaver is snute in disguise
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
May 08 2014 00:47 GMT
#20
On May 08 2014 09:37 TheEmulator wrote:
someone needs to video tape this and make a documentary

Liquid`Ken...Chen


this can be arranged
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
OSC Elite SC2 Cup #15
Liquipedia
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
Reynor vs SerralLIVE!
Clem vs Lambo
TaKeTV5518
ComeBackTV 1562
Ryung 1013
TaKeSeN 511
IndyStarCraft 401
Rex190
3DClanTV 189
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 1013
IndyStarCraft 401
Rex 190
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 56139
Calm 4287
Shuttle 2423
Mini 692
Soma 628
EffOrt 504
Jaedong 500
Soulkey 407
Mong 361
Light 313
[ Show more ]
actioN 303
Rush 226
BeSt 212
ZerO 202
Zeus 108
Sharp 77
ZZZero.O 73
910 71
soO 69
Hyun 67
Leta 65
Sea.KH 49
Sacsri 42
Free 40
Killer 35
Movie 25
GoRush 20
Rock 19
HiyA 18
sorry 17
zelot 14
Yoon 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Noble 12
Dota 2
qojqva2621
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
zeus623
byalli533
edward167
kRYSTAL_33
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor457
Other Games
singsing2516
B2W.Neo1172
Hui .238
KnowMe132
ArmadaUGS105
ZerO(Twitch)21
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream134
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 8
• Pr0nogo 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV825
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.